-- Dolphins No. 2 QB Watch --

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cobrajetcobrajetNew MemberOP
Sep 21, 2010, 07:59 PM

I found this to be a little odd....

-- Dolphins No. 2 QB Watch --

Tue Sep 21, 2010. The Palm Beach Post reports Miami Dolphins QB Tyler Thigpen was listed as the team’s No. 2 quarterback with QB Chad Pennington the inactive third quarterback for the Vikings game. It was a reversal of the order at Buffalo. Was there a specific package of plays in place for Thigpen, who didn't play against the Vikings? "I'm out of the loop in that information," HC Tony Sparano said while shaking his head and suppressing a smile. "Good try." Thigpen, who said he was informed during the week that he would be the reserve quarterback, didn't bite, either. And he objected to the suggestion that his skill as a runner might have been the reason he was active for the Vikings game. "The playbook is open to all three of us," Thigpen said in also including starter QB Chad Henne. "I'm a quarterback. I'm not out there to run the ball."

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Sep 21, 2010, 08:09 PM

I think its interesting as hell as to why Penny was third on the depth chart...hmmm

NJFINSFAN1NJFINSFAN1Luxury Box
Sep 21, 2010, 08:12 PM

There has been rumors of a Thigpen Wildcat package.

finfansince72finfansince72Supporter
Sep 21, 2010, 08:17 PM

Would love to see us use some trickery at some point against the Jest. Just so we can hear more whining from Ryan about playing 'highschool plays' or whatever idiotic reason he comes up with for getting beat.....then going on to use the same plays later on in the season against someone else.

brandon27brandon27Supporter
Sep 21, 2010, 09:02 PM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

There has been rumors of a Thigpen Wildcat package.

That would be interesting. Very interesting to see. I know Thiggy is pretty mobile, but would he be a really good runner in open field? Or is this more for up the gut kind of runs like we tried to do with Pat White last year? Sounds more appropriate for me for Thiggy given that he's a bigger dude if I'm not mistaken. Either way, with Thiggy back there you'd have to honor the run and pass as a defense, since Thigpen is at least capable of completing a pass unlike White.


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BayAreaFinFanBayAreaFinFanSupporter
Sep 21, 2010, 09:08 PM

"finfansince72 wrote:

Would love to see us use some trickery at some point against the Jest. Just so we can hear more whining from Ryan about playing 'highschool plays' or whatever idiotic reason he comes up with for getting beat.....then going on to use the same plays later on in the season against someone else.

That is just one of the million reasons I hate Rex Ryan. He cries and says it's a gimmick offense that's not real football, then uses his own version of it. But a wildcat package with a real QB at the helm would be interesting.

LandShark13LandShark13New Member
Sep 21, 2010, 09:10 PM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

There has been rumors of a Thigpen Wildcat package.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Thiggy is pretty mobile and he can actually complete a pass. At this point I would be surprised if we didn't unleash that this week against the Jets.

KeyFinKeyFinForum Veteran
Sep 21, 2010, 09:29 PM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

There has been rumors of a Thigpen Wildcat package.

Can Thigpen run at all? I mean, I know he's no Barry Sanders, but statistically does he have a decent 40 speed?

That is a strange switch from games 1 to 2, unless Penny had a minor injury or sickness in the later part of the week.

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smahtazsmahtazForum Veteran
Sep 21, 2010, 09:31 PM

"brandon27 wrote:

That would be interesting. Very interesting to see. I know Thiggy is pretty mobile, but would he be a really good runner in open field? Or is this more for up the gut kind of runs like we tried to do with Pat White last year? Sounds more appropriate for me for Thiggy given that he's a bigger dude if I'm not mistaken. Either way, with Thiggy back there you'd have to honor the run and pass as a defense, since Thigpen is at least capable of completing a pass unlike White.

As you stated, the Wildcat package requires a guy who is a legit threat to run it up the gut to maintain the mismatch. A serious passing threat would definitely add another dimension.

Coach Lee can explain it better than I.

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cobrajetcobrajetNew Member
Sep 21, 2010, 09:35 PM

I have always wondered what they were working on behind closed doors with Thiggy and if he was going to replace everything that they tried to do with White but failed. Is Thiggy the new Pat White or just another QB with some skills? I guess that remains the big question.

I know they have to be up to something because our wildcat as of late (the tail end of last year and the beginning of this year) has been anything but "wild". They seem to run the same running play (Ronnie up the middle for 3 or 4 yards) almost every time. There isn't anything wild in that and I know that they are not going to abandon the package so something big has to be coming.

I remember back in the 70's when Shula called an onside punt! (ya you read it right. "an onside punt") It went for 40 yards and a TD. No one knew what hit them and even the refs were stunned. The point is; when you have a team full of multi-talented players (like we do) the sky is the limit. I wouldn't want to be in Rex Ryan's mind this week because there is no way to fully prepare for the Dolphins talent.

Clark KentClark KentForum Veteran
Sep 21, 2010, 09:37 PM

"brandon27 wrote:

That would be interesting. Very interesting to see. I know Thiggy is pretty mobile, but would he be a really good runner in open field? Or is this more for up the gut kind of runs like we tried to do with Pat White last year? Sounds more appropriate for me for Thiggy given that he's a bigger dude if I'm not mistaken. Either way, with Thiggy back there you'd have to honor the run and pass as a defense, since Thigpen is at least capable of completing a pass unlike White.

Thigpen was going to be made a WR in KC if he wasn't traded. The year he played in place of Huard, he rushed for 400ish yards. He's not Michael Vick, but he can run.

LandShark13LandShark13New Member
Sep 21, 2010, 09:44 PM

Here is a nice video of thiggy with some nice highlights both passing and running. Ironically some of his best plays came against us.

YouTube - Tyler Thigpen: No Suprise

cobrajetcobrajetNew Member
Sep 21, 2010, 09:48 PM

"cobrajet wrote:

I have always wondered what they were working on behind closed doors with Thiggy and if he was going to replace everything that they tried to do with White but failed. Is Thiggy the new Pat White or just another QB with some skills? I guess that remains the big question.

I know they have to be up to something because our wildcat as of late (the tail end of last year and the beginning of this year) has been anything but "wild". They seem to run the same running play (Ronnie up the middle for 3 or 4 yards) almost every time. There isn't anything wild in that and I know that they are not going to abandon the package so something big has to be coming.

I remember back in the 70's when Shula called an onside punt! (ya you read it right. "an onside punt") It went for 40 yards and a TD. No one knew what hit them and even the refs were stunned. The point is; when you have a team full of multi-talented players (like we do) the sky is the limit. I wouldn't want to be in Rex Ryan's mind this week because there is no way to fully prepare for the Dolphins talent.

A-FREAKIN"-MEN! Most teams have a one player that can do one thing only. Our players can do many things and do them all well. If our defense continues to play great and we can get our passing offense going we will pulverize the JEST :tongue2:

cobrajetcobrajetNew Member
Sep 21, 2010, 10:00 PM

I have always been a big Thiggy fan, and I have taken heat for it weeks ago because people didn't understand my comments. Liking Thiggy doesn't mean that I don't like Henne, I am a huge Henne fan, it just means that I like Thiggy's change of pace.

Henne and Thiggy are different types of QB's. Henne is a cool and collected pocket passer, and Thiggy is an emotional, mobile, play action QB. We'd blow everyone's minds if we alternated starting QB's wouldn't we? I doubt this would happen but it would be fun to watch.

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Sep 22, 2010, 01:06 AM

The WildThig?

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ChrisKoChrisKoForum Veteran
Sep 22, 2010, 02:34 AM

"LandShark13 wrote:

Here is a nice video of thiggy with some nice highlights both passing and running. Ironically some of his best plays came against us.

YouTube - Tyler Thigpen: No Suprise

I still love watching Yeremiah Bell run down Jamaal Charles in that video though; Game saving play. I do feel that Thigpen might have been a little less effective against us in that game if we had Crowder out there. As much as people want to hate on Crowder, he adds consistency to the MLB spot when he's out there. The defense seems to flow better with him and maybe it's because his early film work with Zach helps him recognize plays quicker and get the rest of the guys lined up.

ToddsPhinsToddsPhinsNew Member
Sep 22, 2010, 10:43 AM

Are we just playing some shenanigans with Thiggy so the Jets have to spend time preparing for a ThigCat that might not exist?

MikeHonchoMikeHonchoSupporter
Sep 22, 2010, 10:48 AM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

There has been rumors of a Thigpen Wildcat package.

Shhhhhh....

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

ToddsPhinsToddsPhinsNew Member
Sep 22, 2010, 10:49 AM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

There has been rumors of a Thigpen Wildcat package.

"lmeister3 wrote:

Shhhhhh....

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Sep 22, 2010, 10:56 AM

"ToddsPhins wrote:

Are we just playing some shenanigans with Thiggy so the Jets have to spend time preparing for a ThigCat that might not exist?

Who knows? Anything is possible at this point.

Cobra hit the nail on the head though. The wildcat hasn't been anything special dating back to Ronnie's injury in the middle of last season. So either they're planning something epic with it starting this week in a big divisional game, and home opener. Or they're just not so into using it anymore. My guess is that it's the former and we will see some nice, unique wrinkles starting Sunday night.

FishweiserFishweiserNew Member
Sep 22, 2010, 02:32 PM

I remember back in the 70's when Shula called an onside punt! (ya you read it right. "an onside punt") It went for 40 yards and a TD.

Seriously??...Not to be off subject, but how does an onside punt work??

LandShark13LandShark13New Member
Sep 22, 2010, 02:35 PM

"Fishweiser wrote:

I remember back in the 70's when Shula called an onside punt! (ya you read it right. "an onside punt") It went for 40 yards and a TD.

Seriously??...Not to be off subject, but how does an onside punt work??

Can only have an onsides punt after a safety. Same rules apply ball traveling ten yards (not 100% on the distance) and its a live ball just like on a kick off.

LandShark13LandShark13New Member
Sep 22, 2010, 02:38 PM

WildThing > WildThig. Hell could you imagine the entire stadium rocking to the troggs?

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Or Tone Locs version...

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And let us not forget Jimi!!

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Colorado DolfanColorado DolfanNew Member
Sep 22, 2010, 02:45 PM

"LandShark13 wrote:

WildThing > WildThig. Hell could you imagine the entire stadium rocking to the troggs?

YouTube - The Troggs - Wild Thing

Or Tone Locs version...

YouTube - Tone Loc - Wild Thing

And let us not forget Jimi!!

YouTube - Wild Thing/Guitar Fire - Jimi Hendrix

YouTube - Sam Kinison Wild Thing

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FishweiserFishweiserNew Member
Sep 22, 2010, 02:56 PM

Can only have an onsides punt after a safety. Same rules apply ball traveling ten yards (not 100% on the distance) and its a live ball just like on a kick off.

Ohhhhhh OK!! LOL!!!....Sheesh, Shula hasnt coached in over a decade, yet he still manages to find a way amaze me........