http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...stronger-into-exotic-scientific-sounding.html I like this a lot.
Mando is offbase, Fisher were goes where he goes, Ross could lay in front of his car and Fisher will still do whatever.
I know.. I mean coming to down to Sunny South Florida when it's 80 degrees in December with a mansion on the ocean and palm trees swaying in the wind is a really tough decision, especially when the international city of Saint Louis is knocking on your door.... I don't buy the argument that Ireland will prevent someone from Fisher like coming to Miami (Ross would fire Ireland if that is what it took) or that Miami is no longer a prime destination.. Ask Pat Riley what the tax benefits and sunshine / quality of life for the rich equates to.
I wonder if the floating of 2nd tier candidates like Dave Toub and Mike Pettin is to make whiny Dolphins fans excited about Fisher?
I'd be ok with Fisher. He's young, an established, experienced coach, been to a super bowl, didnt win it and you know he'd want to get back. His teams always played hard, and physical as well. I'd like to think that Ross would gladly move Ireland out if he had to in order to land the coach he really wants. Well, at least I hope so.
I'm not convinced either way by the Ireland is a roadblock to hiring a coach argument. But the argument is out there. Ross seems to care about image, but is he stubborn? The question is what is better, firing Ireland due to outside pressure, or keeping him and maybe not getting the best coach. I also believe that Miami is a prime destination, though Jeff Fisher is wise enough to know that you don't succeed in this NFL without an elite QB. And with the 8th/9th pick, does Fisher believe he can get a better QB than he'd inherit elsewhere?
I don't think coaches care much about that stuff when they'll be working 18 hour days. I mean, I don't anyone would choose us over Pittsburgh. I think the bigger sell might be the lack of state income tax. I'm sure his family would prefer our locale though. I don't think Ireland is a problem at all for Fisher. The biggest obstacle to overcome would be our lack of a QB IMO. Most everyone else already has one established (kinda ironic when you think about it). You'd have to sell Fisher on doing whatever it takes to get one this spring.
Like Cam Cameron? Spagnullo? Raheem Morris? Fans need to get over the notion that the next McCarthy, Mike Tomlin, or Sean Peyton is lurking out there. Those coaches all succeeded in large part because they had ELITE QBs on their rosters.
I don't ever want to have to persuade or make someone want this job ever again. It never ends well. Bring someone in who does not have to be convinced to take this job
Fisher would probably be my first choice, tbh. he would certainly be more credible than the last few guys in here and the last proven NFL coach since JJ
Not only that, but we're already a team that has a good amount of talent. It should be an attractive job. As for Fisher, I'm a big fan. He's burning to be a champion and will be well rested after having the year off to regroup.
yea that's an old trick to deflect you from looking at Fishers record..you know the 142-120 record he posted in 17 seasons. The 5 post season appearances and the 6 winning seasons I CANT WAIT
Seriously, when was the last time it wasn't a fiasco? 2011 - our most recent avalanche, without an actual vacancy. Franchise greatly harmed. 'Runner Up' in my book. 2008 - we steal Parcells from the Falcons, raid the Cowboys, skirt the Rooney Rule and conducted sham interviews before 'deciding' on Tony Sparano. 2007 - after a month of game shows and evasiveness with the media, Nick Saban proceeds to run off to Alabama. We proceed to track Wayne's plane all over the continent as he went on a head coaching tour. First stop was Pete Carroll in Costa Rica. ** I was actually interviewed by ESPN The Magazine about this. Late 2004 - Wayne jets off to Baton Rouge, along with a Brinks truck, and convinces Saban to come on down with Jim Bates still coaching the team. Early 2004 - Wayne strips Wanny of personnel powers, promotes Rick Spielman and hires Dan Marino in a capacity unknown on anyone. Including Marino. Wayne berates Armando at the press conference for questioning the 'figurehead' hire. Hi-Five Gate is born. Marino walks away 17 days later. Wanny promotes Joel Collier to offensive coordinator at Senior Bowl. Collier demotes himself back to RB's coach two days later. Dolphins ultimately hire Chris Foerrester as offensive coordinator. The position becomes a four-headed, in-fighting monster. It is later revealed that Foerrster previously left the Buccaneers with significant bills for 900 number phone sex calls from his office. ** It is revealed in 2011 that all of this could have been avoided, as consultant Ron Wolf advised Huizenga to instead hire Ted Thompson (current GM of the champion Green Bay Packers). **** I won't even go into the Jon Tait free agent hosting fiasco, driving the wholesome midwest Mormon and his wife thru the ghettos and consequently losing him. 2004 really was the Gold Standard in franchise dysfunction. Our Sgt. Pepper. 1996 - We ushered out a living legend (Shula) for a hotshot JJ, who proceeded to remove all references to the past from the building and froze out Shula and other alumni for the rest of his reign. 1970 - We hire Shula, but not before sending a 1st round pick to Baltimore for tampering. The last time -- check that, the ONLY time it's ever been quiet was when Jimmy bequeathed the job to Dave Wannstedt in 2000. And it wasn't a year before he ran off the good coaches (Westhoff) and replace them with Chicago cronies. Not sure how I'll function without the dysfunction.
Crunched some numbers His'n: since 01: Fisher 76 wins (76-76) Dolphins 81 wins (81-71) Wannyball was boring, he was a terrible GM, he gave up a mint for Ricky williams, but he won a lot of games in the early 00's, there are reasons why Nix inserted him onto Gailey's staff.
The word on the street is fisher wants to coach with an established qb already in place.Sorry but we don't qualify at the moment.Which is fine with me I don't a retread coach anyway.
Wanny was a terrible personnel guy, but a Good head coach too loyal to Jay Fiedler. Those numbers do make me a little concerned. Since 01? Including 2011? There are 3 types of lies, lies, damn lies and statistics? I remember Fisher teams as always competitive, Elite when they had a solid QB. A roster that got blown up in the mid-2000's and handicapped by tight salary caps in Fisher's worst years 04-05.
He had a dip in the mid 00's when the SB core moved on, it bumped up with VY's rookie yr's 10-6 and Collins' 13-3, but then 8-8's and a 6-10. Agreed, his teams were always solid and well coached, in all 3 phases, picked up to many penalties imo, but otherwise they were always a tough out, but you aren't going to win much with Rusty Smith starting games.
no I agree with you 100% elite QB matters way more than coach I honestly don't care who we end up with if we get a top tier QB or prospect at least but if your telling me to pick a coach with the same QB we have I want a system guy that is going to have fun football to watch.
