Dolphins finally contact Tom Gamble

I hope they get him. I'm not optimsitic, due to his circumstances.

Even with something as simple as reporting the team asking for permission to interview an employee, Armando has to insert his speculation and soap opera intrigue.

Dude simply cannot help it.

Well, I won't say Ross & Co. didn't try swinging for the fences. I just hope they don't settle on Brian Gaine when all is said and done.

For some reason Armando says that his father being sick is not expected to keep him from taking jobs elsewhere. I have a tough time believing that.

"ckparrothead wrote:

For some reason Armando says that his father being sick is not expected to keep him from taking jobs elsewhere. I have a tough time believing that.

It seems like Armando has been speaking with his agent this week so maybe there's a chance.

"Sumlit wrote:

Even with something as simple as reporting the team asking for permission to interview an employee, Armando has to insert his speculation and soap opera intrigue.

Dude simply cannot help it.

huh? How do you arrive at that conclusion? It was a pretty straight forward article with an interesting note at the end that most of us probably weren't aware of.
Go off much for no apparent reason? Maybe you should heed your last statement.

"phinsational wrote:

huh? How do you arrive at that conclusion? It was a pretty straight forward article with an interesting note at the end that most of us probably weren't aware of.
Go off much for no apparent reason? Maybe you should heed your last statement.

Umm here.

Although I doubt Ross has thought about this, I know that Gamble working for the Dolphins would force Braman to think long and hard about continuing to oppose a measure if it even indirectly hurts Tom Gamble.

If that's not grasping at straws and creating unnecessary narrative, then I don't know what is.

"Sumlit wrote:

Even with something as simple as reporting the team asking for permission to interview an employee, Armando has to insert his speculation and soap opera intrigue.

Dude simply cannot help it.

I agree. I think the car salesman speculation is just stupid, as in I need some filler and I have nothing meaningful to include so I'll use this. Poor.

"ckparrothead wrote:

For some reason Armando says that his father being sick is not expected to keep him from taking jobs elsewhere. I have a tough time believing that.

I don't. Philbin took a job here 11 days after the death of his son. The reason for that could end up being the same for Gamble not allowing himself to pass up a GM opportunity.

You guys think Farmer is the leading candidate (per Armando) because of Carl Peterson's influence or is it because they actually liked him and his resume?

I would imagine Gamble wouldn't take the interview if he wasn't interested.

"ckparrothead wrote:

For some reason Armando says that his father being sick is not expected to keep him from taking jobs elsewhere. I have a tough time believing that.

I have to agree with Armando on that one. Don't know anything about even Gamble, let alone his father but I would believe if his son stood to get a nice promotion his father would be encouraging him to take that job. That's if his father is well enough to communicate that at this point.

Also, if I'm Ross and Gamble is my guy I make sure he knows that if he's fired the team will be EXTREMELY flexible and considerate of his father's situation and allow him whatever time he needed so long as he had good backup. Even if it affected his job the first season, if you really believe he's the best man for the job you buy in long-term.

"phinsational wrote:

I don't. Philbin took a job here 11 days after the death of his son. The reason for that could end up being the same for Gamble not allowing himself to pass up a GM opportunity.

Would Philbin have taken the job 11 days before the death of his son, if that son were to be hypothetically sick and dying?

Don't answer. I know that answer.

"phinsational wrote:

I don't. Philbin took a job here 11 days after the death of his son. The reason for that could end up being the same for Gamble not allowing himself to pass up a GM opportunity.

An ailing family member still needs help and support.. someone who is dead does not and it just comes down to getting over the mourning.

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I have to agree with Armando on that one. Don't know anything about even Gamble, let alone his father but I would believe if his son stood to get a nice promotion his father would be encouraging him to take that job. That's if his father is well enough to communicate that at this point.

Also, if I'm Ross and Gamble is my guy I make sure he knows that if he's fired the team will be EXTREMELY flexible and considerate of his father's situation and allow him whatever time he needed so long as he had good backup. Even if it affected his job the first season, if you really believe he's the best man for the job you buy in long-term.

Tom Gamble is highly regarded, highly qualified, and he works for the Eagles who seem very much on the up and up with Chip Kelly at the helm...so there's really no danger of him losing his high standing any time soon.

There will be GM job opportunities in future years. But when his father dies, that's permanent. Regardless of his dad's encouragement, if I were close with my father I would strongly consider waiting.

Just as Gamble himself left a GOOD situation in San Francisco so that he could be with his father.

"Sumlit wrote:

Umm here.

If that's not grasping at straws and creating unnecessary narrative, then I don't know what is.

It's called journalism. If all you want is the quick, two sentence version then read a tweet.

Even if you think it's showy, the Braman thing is an interesting point.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Would Philbin have taken the job 11 days before the death of his son, if that son were to be hypothetically sick and dying?

Don't answer. I know that answer.

By that logic, it seems like you believe that a person would just simply quit at life in the wake of tragedy. Some do, as I imagine losing a child has to be one of the most devastating things that can happen to a parent. I worry about it every day and both of my kids are completely healthy (knock on wood). But most people continue on with life. That includes accepting a promotion if it comes up. Gamble does not have to abandon his father to take this job. I work here on the East Coast (D.C. metro area) and was incredibly productive while out on the West Coast and in New York for the past 3 weeks. I know my job is a lot different than an NFL GM, but so much of their job involves travel anyway. Being onsite isn't as necessary as it once was in this digital age.

"ckparrothead wrote:

For some reason Armando says that his father being sick is not expected to keep him from taking jobs elsewhere. I have a tough time believing that.

I think the fact he is even considering the interview is enough reason to believe he maybe thinks the pros outweigh the cons. If the state of his father was such a deal breaker, I'd figure even taking the interview would be out of the question.

"phinsational wrote:

It's called journalism. If all you want is the quick, two sentence version then read a tweet.

Even if you think it's showy, the Braman thing is an interesting point.

Come on phin, he's clearly grasping at straws. That's as deep as a speculation can go. It's not really journalism when you're speculating to this degree.

"MonstBlitz wrote:

By that logic, it seems like you believe that a person would just simply quit at life in the wake of tragedy. Some do, as I imagine losing a child has to be one of the most devastating things that can happen to a parent. I worry about it every day and both of my kids are completely healthy (knock on wood). But most people continue on with life. That includes accepting a promotion if it comes up. Gamble does not have to abandon his father to take this job. I work here on the East Coast (D.C. metro area) and was incredibly productive while out on the West Coast and in New York for the past 3 weeks. I know my job is a lot different than an NFL GM, but so much of their job involves travel anyway. Being onsite isn't as necessary as it once was in this digital age.

1. I didn't say anything about in the wake of a tragedy. My question pertained to what you would do BEFORE the tragic death, if you knew that tragic death was on the way soon. Would you chase promotions that take you away from your dying son or father? That's an individual choice. But if I were close with my father, I probably would not.

2. In no way am I proposing that Tom Gamble "give up on life" in some way. That's a silly exaggeration. He's working for the Philadelphia Eagles, who love him dearly and are using him to better their team, and paying him pretty well I might add with a position very high up in the organization. He's not living in his father's house and taking care of him 24:7 or something like that.

Its worth the gamble

"ckparrothead wrote:

For some reason Armando says that his father being sick is not expected to keep him from taking jobs elsewhere. I have a tough time believing that.

Depends on what the sickness is i guess. Otherwise i agree.

"Sumlit wrote:

I think the fact he is even considering the interview is enough reason to believe he maybe thinks the pros outweigh the cons. If the state of his father was such a deal breaker, I'd figure even taking the interview would be out of the question.

Or he'd just like to hear what the Dolphins have to say, and maintain the relationship for the future. Pretty much every time a team starts searching for GMs, they have guys on the interview list initially that end up withdrawing their name for consideration. He could do that at any time.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Or he'd just like to hear what the Dolphins have to say, and maintain the relationship for the future. Pretty much every time a team starts searching for GMs, they have guys on the interview list initially that end up withdrawing their name for consideration. He could do that at any time.

That's a possibility, I can't deny it. However, he must at least have some sort of interest. I can't think any well regarded professional like Gamble would waste a team's time if he didn't have at least some interest and if he didn't think something could be worked out with regards to his situation.