29 free agents currently and 40 Million over. Sure you can cut people, but again that is why the salary cap is an issue. If you only think getting the cap to zero is an issue and not losing players, then you are correct. I however, believe losing players you would want is a salary cap issue Losing Baker, AVG, those are players I would want to keep, but will likely be lost due to cap issues.
You keep ignoring the fact that Miami won’t be that next year. And they can get around $50m in cap space fairly easily. Only 8’teams currently have that amount of cap space.
It is interesting you think 40M is less then the 25m he is scheduled to make. Most people do not think it is rational to sign Tua long term. One of the best? You can't seriously think that anymore when all evidence shows he is not any good against good teams or in clutch situations.
so, 7-10, and 9-8 is good now? They are still in serious cap trouble, they have the worst cap number in the league
23 NFL teams are positive in the NFL cap. Yet somehow Miami is going to be ahead of all of them next year LOL. Dude, seriously? It looks like maybe the Saints are not so great salary cap space after all.
What? Why are you acting like a rookie contract and a FA contract are the same? Aidan pretty much had to take the deal.
Only reason, I think he might take a deal like that, is because he likes it in Miami and the team and he seems like a guy to whom money isn’t everything.
It’s not interesting, it’s just how the contracts work. Extending him will free up cap space. Acting like Tua hasn’t played well against good teams is just wrong. Pretending that the team over the last part of the season wasn’t decimated by injuries is not the right way to evaluate a team. Do you think AVG had a horrible game in the playoffs? No? I mean, he had no tackles, no sacks, nothing. Why? Because he was injured. Injuries affect teams.
No he didn’t. Players hold out. And a guy with 1-2 good seasons, at AVG’s age, isn’t going to be highly sought after as Aiden. AVG is at his ceiling, which is very good, Aiden is 22 and played the same. AVG won’t be making more than that $6-$8m per year next year no matter who he plays for.
It’s not like my math is some secret formula. The evidence is there for you to see. Once again: Currently they are about $40m in the red. the cap is projected to rise $16m That puts them at $24m in the red. Restructuring Chubb, Tyreek, and Ramsey will save them about $24m That puts them at even. Releasing X, Ogbah, and Baker puts them at around $40m in the black. With a few other moves, they could easily be over $50m in the black. You don't have to believe me (or ignore the 10th time I’ve posted this), all of this is public info.
How often do drafted players hold out? What are their options if they don't reach an agreement? This isn't even worthy of conversation. Rookie contracts and FA deals aren't comparable.
Who is saying release half the team? Rather than criticizing other's suggestions, rebuttal by posting your own.
As was mentioned previously, a couple of years ago, at the same point in the offseason, the Saints were even in worse cap shape. We were thinking they'd have to cut some of their best players like Ramczyk, Lattimore, Davis, and Jordan. They redid a few deals, added some voidable years and by the first day of the new league year, they were under the cap and even signed some UFAs from other teams. 7-10 and 9-8 aren't good, but you said before they were terrible. They're somewhere in the middle. Not good but not terrible, and losing Armstead is not one of the reasons.
It doesn’t matter how often it happens for it to be a possibility now does it? One of the Bosa brothers, as a rookie, threatened to hold out and didn’t sign until right before the preseason a few years back. AVG and Aiden’s play is very similar in regards to production. AVG has most likely reached his ceiling being that he’s almost 29. Aiden’s floor (or so it seems right now) is AVG’s ceiling. No one is going to pay AVG more than what someone like Aiden is getting paid. Have we even heard what AVG’s injuries are? I’ve heard his foot and nothing else. So a 29 yr old, coming off of injury, is projected to get a “HUGE” payday according to you? It’s no longer worthy for you to discuss because you have no answers. The comparisons or inner workings of a rookie and FA contract doesn’t matter. Here’s a question for you, when the Dolphins have $50+million in cap space next season will you disappear again or come eat your crow?
Threatening to hold out, isn't holding out. Yes it does matter, if rookies don't agree to the contract, they would get re-drafted, and then if they don't agree again become FAs but are forced to take certain compensation. Every NFL draft slot now comes with an allotted value. There's really not much to negotiate outside of bonus payments or language. FA players have much more leverage and therefore get paid much more in FA. Negotiations are completely different. That's why salaries are significantly higher in FA. This is really straight forward stuff. Not sure if you are trolling at this point. Like I said, not even worthy of a conversation.
Threat? Lmao… He held out. He held out of training camp, OTA’s, etc. I understand the process. AVG was a FA last year, I guess he’s getting paid much more than Aiden right now what with all of that “leverage”? Oh wait… You can keep not understanding the way things work, but it’s not hard. Contracts are typically based on precedent and comps. That being; what are similar players making in the league. There are of course other factors. A great comp for AVG is Aiden because the two players had nearly identical production at the same position. Pretending that their contracts, because one was a rookie and the other is a FA, comes into play here doesn’t make sense.
