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Dolphins claim Dimitri Patterson

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Steve-Mo, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. Steve-Mo

    Steve-Mo 'Saban' Guy

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/dolphins-claim-dimitri-patterson/

    EDIT: The man plays CB.
     
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  2. Anonymous

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    That's a hell of a pick up this late in the season.
     
  3. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I agree. Why did the Browns drop him?
     
  4. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    If he's healthy that's a hell of an option to just fall into your lap. My questions are why was he cut and why did nobody above Miami in the waiver order claim him? Miami claiming him is a no-brainer given the injuries we've had most recently Nolan Carroll I think getting hurt. But I'd have thought someone above us would claim him as well.

    Patterson's been around a long time and the one mistake that teams both the Eagles and Browns seem to make with him is when they put him out on the perimeter. He's not a perimeter corner, he's a slot corner. Purely. Keep him there. Like Benny Sapp, but better. If Miami keeps him through next year, they may have the freedom to either cut Richard Marshall or move him to safety.
     
  5. Anonymous

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    Reading a Browns forum, apparently there seems to be a disconnect between Heckert and Banner. That and Patterson's injury history may have lead them to waive him. They also make it sound like Patterson had no interest in playing for Cleveland.

    I agree on him playing strictly as a SCB. He performs very well there.
     
  6. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    Nice signing. Rather have him in there than Jimmy Wilson.
     
  7. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Assuming we beat the Bills, which I believe we will, he's going to come real handy against Wes.
     
  8. schmolioot

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    Owed a lot of money but think he can be cut without cap hit after March.

    But yeah, nice flyer at this point
     
  9. ckparrothead

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    It looks from the story like he can void his contract after 2013. But either way that means we have him for next year.

    I've always admired how Patterson plays from the slot. Quick and aggressive. Has recovery speed.
     
  10. Den54

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  11. Desides

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    Hey, Cleveland. Can you cut T.J. Ward, too? Thanks.
     
  12. ckparrothead

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    And then all you other teams in the top 10 of the draft order, please don't claim him. Kthxbai.
     
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  13. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    This was a comment to the article :



    ezmoover says:
    Dec 18, 2012 5:48 PM
    Meh. The Browns dumped Patterson because he was a me-first turd.

    He had an ankle that was supposed to keep him out for two weeks… he missed seven games.

    He told the media that he didn’t want to take the chance of putting up bad film because it might ruin his next FA contract.

    There is no “i” in team. But there is a bunch of them in Dimitri.
     
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  14. ckparrothead

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    Wow. Ouch.
     
  15. evz

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    let's hope he's not like Elvis...
     
  16. cuchulainn

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    Sounds like the Matt Roth story with the never healing groin injury until he landed elsewhere...
     
  17. schmolioot

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    Wow, how can we put this talented yet chemistry destroying monster on our team?
     
  18. ckparrothead

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    Joe Philbin didn't veto the waiver claim? So strange. He tends to take control in these situations when it comes to malaperts like this...

    Ok. I'm done posting like a sarcastic ****. Temporary lapse.
     
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  19. RevRick

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    Does he play guitar and eat peanut butter and banana sandwiches?
     
  20. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You Club Member

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    He played the first five games... they were 0-5. When he was suppose to "return" via that comment, they would have been 1-6.

    Honestly... I can't say that I blame him.
     
  21. padre31

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    Eh, we missed on Babin, landed this guy

    Late season "dump them and hope someone takes us off cap hook" move.

    Worth a roll of the dice, but still it's not Deion Sanders circa 1993 landed on the roster.
     
  22. Paul 13

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    Elvis Toast Patterson... as nicknamed by Parcells when he played for the Giants.

    Maybe we can nickname him Bagel... as in he gives up ZERO big plays.
     
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  23. Paul 13

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    This year's PFF:

    48 targets, 32 Receptions, 3 touchdowns... 3 passes defensed. 106 versus QBR.
     
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  24. Boik14

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    Sooo youre saying its a little too late for him to be worrying about putting up bad film? :lol:
     
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    "I don't want to put up even worse film..."

    :yes:
     
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  26. Paul 13

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    I'm saying Bryan McCann looked pretty good vs the Jags.
     
  27. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Omar agrees with you

    So basically I think we should cut him.
     
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  28. dWreck

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    So... for those of us that dont know him...

    is this more of a: :lol:

    or a: :yes:

    or a: :yawn:

    or a: :pity:
     
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  29. shouright

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    Sounds like a :shifty:.
     
  30. Desides

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    The Dolphins didn't submit a claim for Babin.
     
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  31. dWreck

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    THAT WAS NOT ONE OF THE OPTIONS!!!!!!!!!

    well, I NEVER. :angry:
     
  32. Onehondo

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    Sounds more like a :yawn: :sleeping:
     
  33. unifiedtheory

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    Holy ****. Those are some BAD numbers.
     
  34. shouright

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    Turning into more of a :rolleyes:.
     
  35. Paul 13

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    Well Omar is correct this time because he agrees with me :shifty:
     
  36. Paul 13

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    do we have a smh smiley? :smh: Could be a good move, at least we are trying to bring in someone to add to the depth that has experience and has enjoyed some success in the NFL (not necessarily this season). With Carroll and Clemons having missed some time in our last game. We're trying to win these last two games if we need to put Wilson at safety. Patterson supposedly is a nickel / slot specialist. We'll see.
     
  37. ckparrothead

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    Not really.

    I've personally never really been that comfortable with the use of a passer rating to evaluate corner play. The passer rating is a surprisingly complicated formula that was developed from the viewpoint of the quarterback. There are actually some parts of the formula that even peg on an absolute basis rates which are deemed to be "optimal" for certain parts of the function. The corner position is not the quarterback position. There are different ideals and this diminishes the information value of the passer rating for corners because it means differences that are actually not that significant for a corner, can make a huge, inappropriately large difference in relative passer ratings for the corners.

    As for Dimitri Patterson I mentioned this before but the mistake that Philadelphia seemed to make with him and that Cleveland repeated this year was placing him at perimeter instead of slot. Perhaps both teams just needed to do it and had no choice.

    Since 2008, Patterson has played a total of 30 games where PFF scored his position as "LCB" or "RCB" because he played the majority of his snaps during the game at one of those positions. In those games he's garnered a -18.0 Total grade from PFF, -12.9 of which is in coverage. In those games he's allowed 100 of 147 passes to be completed for 1196 yards, with 9 TDs and 4 INTs, and 10 PDs.

    During the same period in the 20 games he's played where he was scored as a "SCB" because he took the majority of his snaps there, he's summed a +10.3 total grade, with a +10.7 coverage grade. He's allowed 37 completions on 77 attempts for 393 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs and 11 PDs.

    The comparison between the two is stark. Whether you're talking completion percentage (48.1% vs 68.0%), yards per attempt (5.1 vs 8.1), yards per completion (10.6 vs 12.0), TD percentage (1.3% vs 6.1%) or pass defensed rate (14.3% vs 6.8%), not to mention the overall PFF grades (+10.3 vs -18.0)...the differences are dramatic.

    Some of the differences in my experience can be attributed to the differences in position standards between perimeter corners and slot corners. For instance you expect a lower yards per completion at slot than at perimeter. That will help you also have a lower yards per attempt average. However, at the same time, slot corners should expect an UPWARD bias in completion percentage numbers...whereas he's allowed 68% on the perimeter and 48% in the slot. That makes what already is a stark difference even more dramatic.

    This is all stuff I brought up last year when looking at Dimitri Patterson. It's stuff the Browns should've known. But sure enough they played Patterson at RCB/LCB in games this year and he allowed 20 of 29 for 225 yards, 2 TDs and 0 INTs with a -1.0 PFF grade in those games. They probably had no choice due to injuries or some other constraint. In the other games he played this year at SCB he had a +1.8 PFF grade, allowing 12 of 19 for 92 yards, 1 TD and 0 INTs.
     
  38. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Didn't the Giants win one Super Bowl with Elvis starting at corner?
     
  39. Fineas

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    If I remember correctly, he was benched halfway through that season.
     
  40. MrClean

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    Even considering those injured, he is already our 2nd best corner.
     

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