Does Michael Crabtree = Larry Fitzgerald?

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dgb11112dgb11112New MemberOP
Feb 1, 2009, 12:28 PM

I was just reading some information regarding Crabtree 6'3 214. He is a very good body controlled receiver and similar to Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerals was and does not have blazing speed which seems to be similar to What Crabtree lacks but exceptional hands. Fitz slimmed down a bit this year to around 216 for some quickness. It is an observation and I would Value everyones thoughts on us trying to get him if available with one of our 2nd Round picks.

54Fins54Finsforum_veteran
Feb 1, 2009, 12:31 PM

"dgb11112 wrote:

I was just reading some information regarding Crabtree 6'3 214. He is a very good body controlled receiver and similar to Larry Fitzgerald. Fitzgerals was and does not have blazing speed which seems to be similar to What Crabtree lacks but exceptional hands. Fitz slimmed down a bit this year to around 216 for some quickness. It is an observation and I would Value everyones thoughts on us trying to get him if available with one of our 2nd Round picks.

I don't think he will be there when we pick in the 2nd round,but would love to have him.Hard to make any comparisons until he gets his feet wet in the NFL.

JimiJimiforum_veteran
Feb 1, 2009, 12:37 PM

"54Fins wrote:

I don't think he will be there when we pick in the 2nd round,but would love to have him.Hard to make any comparisons until he gets his feet wet in the NFL.

Your thinking of the wrong guy my man. Crabtree is top 5.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Feb 1, 2009, 12:38 PM

Very tough to say exactly what Crabtree is going to turn into. He hasnt even played football that long.,..which could be good..or just as easily bad.

Agreed with my bro, he wont be there when we pick in the second, very very good chance he will be long gone before we pick in the first. :up:

aboomeaboomesubscriber
Feb 1, 2009, 12:38 PM

Crabtree is a top 15 pick he won't be there when we pick at 25

ALalen1New Member
Feb 1, 2009, 12:40 PM

He's probably not going to get out of the top four or five.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Feb 1, 2009, 12:44 PM

"alen1 wrote:

He's probably not going to get out of the top four or five.

Yeah yeah, what do YOU know :tongue2:

Just kidding Alen, hows things going?

Tell me Capt stats, how do Crabtree's numbers stack up with Roy Williams (Detroit to Dallas RW)?

That is actually the reciever he reminds me most of in recent history.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Feb 1, 2009, 12:46 PM

Crabtree is the player who will go in the top 5, but who will take him, Cinci or Seattle is the uknnown.

Not a chance he makes it to pick #25, let alone #44.

ALalen1New Member
Feb 1, 2009, 12:51 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

Yeah yeah, what do YOU know :tongue2:

Just kidding Alen, hows things going?

Tell me Capt stats, how do Crabtree's numbers stack up with Roy Williams (Detroit to Dallas RW)?

That is actually the reciever he reminds me most of in recent history.

Haha, man it feels like I haven't talked to you in forever. Hope all is well.

I'm not sure how his statistics stack up to Roy Williams as I don't know the specifics stats of Williams at Texas but I think Roy is one of the leaders in receptions and yards in Texas history.

I think that may be a good comparison. Hadn't really thought of that one to be honest. They both round off routes and both can get up there. Roy ran a late 4.4 though and I don't expect Crabtree to do the same as Crabtree comes off more quick than fast to me.

Off-topic note - Chris Mortensen says that the Cardinals are willing to listen to trade offers for Boldin this off-season.

ALalen1New Member
Feb 1, 2009, 12:51 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Crabtree is the player who will go in the top 5, but who will take him, Cinci or Seattle is the uknnown.

Not a chance he makes it to pick #25, let alone #44.

I think if he doesn't go number two then he will go at number four.

Biggtyme13Biggtyme13subscriber
Feb 1, 2009, 01:28 PM

I would not use their college numbers as a good comparison being that Crabtree plays in a crazy pass offense but he pretty much did what Roy did in 4 years in 2 years

Crabtree 231rec, 3,127yds, 41tds
Williams 241rec, 3,866yds, 36tds

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Feb 1, 2009, 01:57 PM

if there were'nt as many potentially great left tackles in the draft he would be the unquestioned #1 pick, hes top five regardless and imo, the most electrifying receiver to come out since randy moss. hes as good as calvin johnson imo.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Feb 1, 2009, 03:02 PM

No.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Feb 1, 2009, 03:03 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

if there were'nt as many potentially great left tackles in the draft he would be the unquestioned #1 pick, hes top five regardless and imo, the most electrifying receiver to come out since randy moss. hes as good as calvin johnson imo.

I have to disagree with you on this one. He does not have the athletic ability of a Moss or Johnson. I'd rather have Britt or Nicks over Crabtree.

ALalen1New Member
Feb 1, 2009, 03:05 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

I have to disagree with you on this one. He does not have the athletic ability of a Moss or Johnson. I'd rather have Britt or Nicks over Crabtree.

Nor does he run routes like Calvin Johnson did coming out.

FrayserFrayserforum_veteran
Feb 1, 2009, 03:19 PM

I have not seen as much of Crabtree as others, but I have never thought of him as a Fitz type of receiver. I just don't see him going up and making the same kind of plays that Fitz made while at Pittsburgh. Crabtree is a talented receiver that plays in a pass-happy, gimmick offense so I also don't know how much we can go on stats.

Personally, I think Crabtree is a risky top five pick. He is nowhere near the player that Fitz or CJ was coming out of college. I don't know what it is about him, but I can't help but think of guys like Michael Clayton and Rashaun Woods when I think of him. It really would be of no surprise to me if Nicks ended up the jewel of this WR class. He's a bit unpolished as compared to some guys, but I think he has shown some of that Fitz, CJ, Andre Johnson, etc . . . type stuff. I see Nicks play, and I think "stud." I just don't get that feeling watching Crabtree.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Feb 1, 2009, 03:30 PM

Crabtree wont be taken in the top 10.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Feb 1, 2009, 03:33 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Crabtree wont be taken in the top 10.

If he runs a 4.3 or 4.4, he goes top 5.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Feb 1, 2009, 03:33 PM

"Frayser wrote:

I have not seen as much of Crabtree as others, but I have never thought of him as a Fitz type of receiver. I just don't see him going up and making the same kind of plays that Fitz made while at Pittsburgh. Crabtree is a talented receiver that plays in a pass-happy, gimmick offense so I also don't know how much we can go on stats.

Personally, I think Crabtree is a risky top five pick. He is nowhere near the player that Fitz or CJ was coming out of college. I don't know what it is about him, but I can't help but think of guys like Michael Clayton and Rashaun Woods when I think of him. It really would be of no surprise to me if Nicks ended up the jewel of this WR class. He's a bit unpolished as compared to some guys, but I think he has shown some of that Fitz, CJ, Andre Johnson, etc . . . type stuff. I see Nicks play, and I think "stud." I just don't get that feeling watching Crabtree.

The one thing that both CJ and Fitz have that Crabtree hasnt shown is absolutely STICK on their fingers.

I remember the hi-lights of Fitz while at Pitt and same with CJ coming out a couple years ago. Many times, they made their prospective QB's look much better than they were. Throw it anywhere within a 5yard square and those guys are gonna get the ball.
I have seen much of Fitz since being in the NFL... Nothing changes there. Many times Warner doesnt even throw it too him or wait for him to get open. He throws it as soon as the DB turns his back to face Fitz. At that point, not many if any DB's are gonna beat Fitz to the ball...and he very very rarely drops anything....ever

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Feb 1, 2009, 04:06 PM

"padre31 wrote:

If he runs a 4.3 or 4.4, he goes top 5.

I don't think he will he doesn't have that kind of speed.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Feb 1, 2009, 04:38 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

I don't think he will he doesn't have that kind of speed.

That is what the Combine is for.

ALalen1New Member
Feb 1, 2009, 04:56 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Crabtree wont be taken in the top 10.

Yes he will IMO.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Feb 1, 2009, 05:12 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

I have to disagree with you on this one. He does not have the athletic ability of a Moss or Johnson. I'd rather have Britt or Nicks over Crabtree.

oh my goodness brother, wow, thats bold brother, i think we'll just have to see about that one...i do think nicks is gonna be a legit #1......crabtree is ridiculously good. kid was the best in the country when he was a freshman, remember, he would only be a junior this year. I respect your choice though.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 1, 2009, 05:20 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

oh my goodness brother, wow, thats bold brother, i think we'll just have to see about that one...i do think nicks is gonna be a legit #1......crabtree is ridiculously good. kid was the best in the country when he was a freshman, remember, he would only be a junior this year. I respect your choice though.

I think Crabtree will be good, but he isn't as good as Moss or CJ IMO. If not for Kenny Britt's lack of RZ production TD wise I would easily prefer him over Crabtree. It's close right now though.

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Feb 1, 2009, 06:07 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Crabtree wont be taken in the top 10.

wanna bet?..

The kid is 20 years old and dominated his craft. does anyone remember the texas game. consistent play making ability, aggressive nature, strong human being..hand eye cordination that is off the charts....ive seen him catch the ball in tough situations without looking it in. Very gifted receiver, better then anyone in the draft even though they have two years on him.

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