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Do you think Nick Foles is better than Tannehill?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by yoge, Jan 4, 2014.

Nick Foles or Tannehill, who is a better QB?

Poll closed Feb 13, 2014.
  1. Nick Foles is clearly a better QB than Tannehill

    38 vote(s)
    49.4%
  2. Im a phkin Dolphan, Tannehill is better no doubt

    21 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. They're both about the same

    18 vote(s)
    23.4%
  1. yoge

    yoge New Member

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    They're both second year QBs. Tanny has 2 years of starting experience and Foles only has like half a season starting experience.

    What do you think? Is Nick Foles a better QB than Tannehill?
     
  2. JamesyEsq

    JamesyEsq Active Member

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    Statistically Foles is far better, so right now, sure. In the future... who knows
     
  3. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Two completely different offensive schemes and talent levels how can you compare the two?
     
  4. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Foles has played in 20 games 33 TDs, 7 INTs, 7 Fumbles.
    Tanny has played in 32 games 36 TDs, 30 INTs, 11 Fumbles.

    Foles just doesn't throw picks. Its incredible. 582 pass attempts and 7 picks. Tanny has 1,072 pass attempts and has 30 picks.
     
  5. TopLoader

    TopLoader Active Member

    Foles has a line that can keep him untouched. We have a line that allows a dline's to hammer Tanny. Your right you can't compare. Put Foles behind our line he won't play 20 snaps never mind 20games. Tanny has done amazing mainly avoiding serious injury.
     
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  6. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    Foles is a better QB but he is also on a much better team and plays in a weak division.
     
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  7. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    I think Tannehill in Philly's offense and team would put up similar numbers to Foles. I think Foles in our offense and surrounding talent would look like Ray Lucas.
     
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  8. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Chip Kelly is better than Joe Philbin.
     
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  9. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Foles has one of the better offensive lines and the best rb in the league but tannehill has better wrs.
    Foles doesn't turn the ball over and he can do two things much better than tannehill hit the deep pass and has much better pocket presence..
    The eagles took off once foles took over and haven't looked back.Mike vicks qb rating was only 86.6 in the 7 games compared to 119.0 for foles and he played with the same offence.So give foles credit he led the eagles to the the playoffs and won when it mattered.
    I will give tannehill a pass on the bills game because of the pass protection but he choked against the jets.
    So yea at this point its not even close.Foles.
     
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  10. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I dont get these kind of threads....to be honest. First of all..look at the running game Philly has. Its a completely different situation in Philly. Foles has had a great season..dont take anything from him. Chip Kelly is a great coach. Hes adapted his system one way with Vick and another with Foles. But you can't judge Qbs over one season..judge them in a few years..see what happens.

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  11. anlgp

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    Too many different scenarios to compare, but living in the area and watching a **** ton of Eagles games, and more specifically McCoy, their running game is superb. That takes a lot of weight off a QB's shoulders. They also have Jackson (who despite "only" being a deep threat is really great at what he does) and Maclin when healthy. I like Maclin better than I like Jackson, and Riley Cooper has stepped it up big time in Maclin's absence this year. Celek is also a decent tight end, and their LT (Peters) and LG (Mathis, d'oh) made the all-pro team this year, and a lot of people are saying that Jason Kelce should have made the all-pro team, and I agree. He is a great center. That's 3/5 of the offensive line, which we also do not have. Plus, they have quick strike ability to get ahead, and we have not been able to do that much with Wallace because stone hands and bad offensive line and deep ball throwing issues.
     
  12. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Put McCoy and DeSean on our team and look how much better Tanny looks.
     
  13. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    MCcoy I will give you but desean jackson is no better than wallace.If tannehill had any touch on the deepball wallace would have had at least 10 tds if not more.If this was the case we would be playing this weekend.
     
  14. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Do the numbers 6.10,8,8 mean anything to you? If you do you would know why assuming Wallace would have 10 or 10+ TD's is stupid...
     
  15. anlgp

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    Foles has that touch. It's one area that he's better IMO. Plus the INTs thing. Neither of those are enough to compare, though.
     
  16. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=- Club Member

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    Not sure about these comparisons, and i don't have the statistics but i do believe 5 lined up bales of hay are in fact better than our offensive line.

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  17. PapaC

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    In that offense yes, in our offense about the same.
     
  18. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    A silly poll. It's like comparing oranges and cats. Two very different situations.
     
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  19. CitizenSnips

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    One has chip Kelly. The other has mike Sherman
     
  20. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you count how many times tannehill missed a wide open wallace.Hint it was at least a dozen times.
     
  21. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    The touch and turnovers is the difference between winning and losing.How many games did we lose if he only hit that deepball or didn't fumble?How many games did we lose by 3 pts or less?
    Foles made the eagles better when he took over for vick and thats a fact.
     
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  22. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Yes he is better than Tannehill, and McCoy is better than Miller, Desean much better than Mike. Just an overall far better team than us.
     
  23. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    So he should have had 17+ TD's? Wow how was Wallace that open this year and not the rest of his career! ( sarcasm)
     
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  24. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Right now it's too early to make that question IMO. If in about a year Foles continues his level of production and Tannehill only gets marginally better, then yes, Foles will be the better QB.
     
  25. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    He hits half of them he has 10 Einstein.But r great qb hit none of them.And I am talking college wide open.
    But ur a typical fin fan with his blind homer glasses on.NO point wasting anymore time with u just like all the pro henne people I had to deal with.
    Hopefully tannehill gets better with these real issues or he will always just be an average qb like he is now.
     
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  26. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Tannehill's deep ball percentage (over 20 yards) on passes thrown to Wallace was a little below average this season IIRC. I don't really know the exact numbers, but if it were at least average, I think Wallace could have had at least 2 more TD's. If the percentage were a little above average, then 4 extras TD's wouldn't be out of the question, so about 9 TD's for the season could have been possible.
     
  27. anlgp

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    I'm not arguing Foles didn't make the Eagles better. I'm arguing if we had the offensive line and running game that the Eagles do I think we would be okay. You're also right about the comparison to Jackson / Wallace, I think.
     
  28. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    People here act like some system just makes Foles a better deep ball thrower. No, his talent does. The guy could walk in Davie and be able to hit Mike Wallace in stride, can Tannehill ever do that consistently? We'll see next year but the answer right now is no.
     
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  29. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I read an article where Foles was pretty stngy in high school as well. He had a good number of TDs and low picks. Not sure how he did in college, but he seems to make good decisions with where the ball needs to go.
     
  30. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    To tell u the truth I live in delaware and I hate the eagles.I hope foles saves all his interceptions for tonight and the eagles get smoked.I bet 2 people dinners we would have a better record than the eagles thinking it was a sure thing.****ing foles and the choking dolphins cost me.The worst part is I have to listen to these damm eagles fans chirp.
     
  31. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    I think Nick Foles or any other QB would be sacked 58 times if they played for the phins
     
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  32. anlgp

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    I live in Delaware, too, and the Eagles are my NFC team. I hope they beat the Saints.

    :lol:

    That sucks you lost a bet. What part of DE? New Castle, Kent, Sussex?
     
  33. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    New castle county.Lol I fiqured u r an eagles fan when I saw the flyers logo.
    Well good luck tonight its going to be cold for the saints.
     
  34. NJFINSFAN1

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    He is much better than Wallace, Wallace is a one trick pony.
     
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  35. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    I'd say inconclusive.

    Statistically, Foles is much better. However, he has substantially better offensive talent around him. He had 2 all pro offensive lineman and an all pro running back as a supporting cast. That doesn't include Jackson, Cooper, Ertz and Celek which I think are better than our top 4 WR/TE.
     
  36. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Ironic how jackson just had his best season with foles as qb and wallace just had his worst with tannehill as his qb.
     
  37. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    Tannehill and it's not close. I liked Foles at draft time but he is purely a product of the system. His jump from year 1 to year 2 basically bears that out. From year 1 to year 2 he went from being a turnover machine under Reid to a guy who didn't turn it over in a run heavy scheme. He also raised his completion % 3 points, his ya about 3 yards and did that while losing his 2nd best wr. The only other change was along the OL (Lane Johnson...who isn't that good Imo) and at HC
     
  38. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    You must have a hard time finding a hat to fit your head with an overblown ego like that.
     
  39. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    2009 didnt happen? I can recall it pretty well... Wierd.
     
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  40. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wow. Talk about hyperbole. Just because you're upset about the line play doesn't mean that you should go all ridiculous. If we were just talking pass blocking, sure five bales of hay would be tougher to get through than our line, but that’s only one aspect of line play. There is also run blocking. Have you ever seen a bale of hay drive block? It’s not pretty. Now, if we’re talking bales of hay on wheelbarrows, then ok, they’d be better, but we’re not. So, let’s try to keep the hyperbole out of the discussion please.
     
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