Dirty dirty hockey hit
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wpgfishfanNew MemberOPSorry boys could only find the French feed
YouTube- Disgusting - Patrice Cormier Elbows Mikael Tam (January 17 2010)
This happened in Quebec, the player is still in the hospital
Well after 15 years Bettman lets hockey come back to Winnipeg. Thanks for wasting 15 years
TiP54New MemberIt didin't look bad.
Hits like that (and alot, ALOT worse) happen in hockey all the time.
From what i understand, it wasn't pro level.
Im wondering if that guy had a preexisting condition.
wpgfishfanNew Member"Mari0k wrote:
It didin't look bad.
Hits like that (and alot, ALOT worse) happen in hockey all the time.
From what i understand, it wasn't pro level.
Im wondering if that guy had a preexisting condition.
No they don't
He left the bench and without going for the puck he stuck out his elbow and knocked and out to the point of convulsion
This happened in junior hockey in the Q
Well after 15 years Bettman lets hockey come back to Winnipeg. Thanks for wasting 15 years
anlgpNew MemberIt's hard to tell thru that video whether or not he had his head down going thru the neutral zone. An elbow is uncalled for, but if you go thru the neutral zone with your head down you had better be prepared to get your clock cleaned. It's just how it works.
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azfinfanmangLuxury BoxMost important, certainly hope this kids okay. Scares he bejeezues out of me anytime I see somebody convulsing like that.
Second, my favorite saying in regards to Hockey:
"I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey match broke out". Not to lesson the severity, but man, Hockey is just a flat out physical game.
gunn34New MemberHits like that have alot of people wanting all the leagues to go to a less physical type of hockey like in the Olympics.
TiP54New Member"wpgfishfan wrote:
No they don't
Yes they do?
"wpgfishfan wrote:
He left the bench and without going for the puck he stuck out his elbow and knocked and out to the point of convulsion
The only really "bad" thing is that he just left the bench. People go for player (vs going for the puck) and stick out elbows all the time. This was a bad hit, but nothing way unusual of any hockey level. He just happened to hit him in the throat.
Im not making excuses for the guy, that is unacceptable.
Simply pointing out that its not as bad as advertised.
wpgfishfanNew Member"Mari0k wrote:
Yes they do?
The only really "bad" thing is that he just left the bench. People go for player (vs going for the puck) and stick out elbows all the time. This was a bad hit, but nothing way unusual of any hockey level. He just happened to hit him in the throat.
Im not making excuses for the guy, that is unacceptable.
Simply pointing out that its not as bad as advertised.
I watch hockey and yes there are dirty plays but this one takes it another level....here are some quotes by hockey players
''I'd be surprised if (Cormier) played another game this year,'' Montreal Canadiens enforcer Georges Laraque told The Canadian Press. ''When you look at kids that young, they're not even in the NHL yet and they have their whole future ahead of them and they're shaking on the ice like that. That's pretty scary.
Vancouver Canucks forward Tanner Glass called it one of the ugliest hits he'd ever seen.
''It was premeditated'' said Glass. ''He had the elbow up good and early. It's disappointing to see a kid that's trying to play a gritty game, to be a tough player to play against, take liberties like that because it always comes back to haunt you
Police have been called in to investigate the hit, which brings up the question; when should the law be brought into the game of hockey?
Well after 15 years Bettman lets hockey come back to Winnipeg. Thanks for wasting 15 years
TiP54New Member"wpgfishfan wrote:
I watch hockey and yes there are dirty plays but this one takes it another level....
What was so different with this hit, than from hundeds of others that happen in hockey all the time? The fact that he got him in to the throat. had he had him in any other part, or if the hit wouldn't of caused convultions, is it a dirty? Yes. Is it a hit that every freaks out over? No.
I feel bad for the kid who get hit, and the guy who did it is a total jackass.
That doesn't change the fact that there was nothing terrible about that hit, if he doesn't get up and start swingin at the guy.
"wpgfishfan wrote:
Police have been called in to investigate the hit, which brings up the question; when should the law be brought into the game of hockey?
This is a whole separate subject.
I don't think so, but it is a matter of opinion.
Im sure both sides will have good points.
HardKoreXXXNew MemberMike Richards would be proud.
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MikeHonchoSupporterDidn't a guy get hook-sticked in the face once?
Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.
rafaelForum VeteranI can't say I watch much hockey or really know the rules, but the only differences I noticed in that hit other than the result was that he led with his elbow rather than his shoulder. IMO he went unnecessarily high but frankly it seems that most highlight hits are like that. It seems to my unaccustomed eye that if the kid hadn't been hurt that hit would have made many of those top 10 plays lists.
What makes that hit so different?
HardKoreXXXNew Member"rafael wrote:
I can't say I watch much hockey or really know the rules, but the only differences I noticed in that hit other than the result was that he led with his elbow rather than his shoulder. IMO he went unnecessarily high but frankly it seems that most highlight hits are like that. It seems to my unaccustomed eye that if the kid hadn't been hurt that hit would have made many of those top 10 plays lists.
What makes that hit so different?
Elbowing is a clear penalty. It's like a helmet-to-helmet shot on a defenseless receiver in football. Kennoy Kennedy delivered a knockout blow to Chris Chambers a few years back, but it was a dirty shot so you're not going to see it on any highlight reels.
It was a dirty play with the intent to injure.
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rafaelForum Veteran"HardKoreXXX wrote:
Elbowing is a clear penalty. It's like a helmet-to-helmet shot on a defenseless receiver in football. Kennoy Kennedy delivered a knockout blow to Chris Chambers a few years back, but it was a dirty shot so you're not going to see it on any highlight reels.
It was a dirty play with the intent to injure.
Okay so you're saying that the elbow is the difference? I can understand that.
HardKoreXXXNew Member"rafael wrote:
Okay so you're saying that the elbow is the difference? I can understand that.
Yep. Infact, had the guy layed his shoulder into him instead, and not hit him in the head/neck area, there may not have even been a penalty called. (Although a hit as vicious as that almost always gets penalty and/or a game misconduct)
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wpgfishfanNew Member"rafael wrote:
Okay so you're saying that the elbow is the difference? I can understand that.
and the player hit did not have the puck or was near it
and the player making the hit just came off his bench
Well after 15 years Bettman lets hockey come back to Winnipeg. Thanks for wasting 15 years
MikeHonchoSupporter"wpgfishfan wrote:
and the player hit did not have the puck or was near it
and the player making the hit just came off his bench
Hmm. Thinking the coach may have been involved.
Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.
rafaelForum Veteran"wpgfishfan wrote:
and the player hit did not have the puck or was near it
and the player making the hit just came off his bench
I thought he had the puck. When you don't watch that sport regularly that thing is hard to follow.