Desides - Whats the call on Parcells?

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BRbrentNew MemberOP
Dec 19, 2007, 07:46 PM

Desides - Whats the call on Parcells?

DominizzoDominizzoNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 07:50 PM

News is that Parcells will hire MArty Schotthenheimer

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 07:51 PM

"Dominizzo wrote:

News is that Parcells will hire MArty Schotthenheimer

wheres this news coming from?

CACarabinieri44New Member
Dec 19, 2007, 07:52 PM

Marty as HC, Garrett as OC.

ill be happy. then defense....uh, ill get back to u on that one..

#1dolphinsfan#1dolphinsfanNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 07:53 PM

cam as head coach for at least another year and a new GM

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 07:53 PM

"Carabinieri44 wrote:

Marty as HC, Garrett as OC.

ill be happy. then defense....uh, ill get back to u on that one..

Garrett could only leave the cowboys for a HC job, not another OC job.

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Dec 19, 2007, 07:54 PM

"CitizenSnips wrote:

wheres this news coming from?

Clayton on Sportscenter mentioned Marty S coming here to be HC, he said something about "A quick turnaround" being planned for the Phins.

We'll see, everything is up in the air now, Mock Drafts may have to be adjusted..

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 07:57 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Clayton on Sportscenter mentioned Marty S coming here to be HC, he said something about "A quick turnaround" being planned for the Phins.

We'll see, everything is up in the air now, Mock Drafts may have to be adjusted..

poor beck..

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Dec 19, 2007, 08:00 PM

"CitizenSnips wrote:

poor beck..

"Maybe" Bill P had a nice battle over Phil Simms so who knows?

This starts getting fuzzy at the point the HC makes decisions, and what Bill P would like to see happen here.

Roman529Roman529New Member
Dec 19, 2007, 08:01 PM

"CitizenSnips wrote:

poor beck..

Yeah but he had his shot. Bring in Colt Brennan and open up the offense. Damn, this has been a sweet week.....we win our first game and get the Tuna all in one week...NFL players are going to want to come to Miami now.

:up:

Fin DFin DForum Veteran
Dec 19, 2007, 08:06 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

Yeah but he had his shot. Bring in Colt Brennan and open up the offense. Damn, this has been a sweet week.....we win our first game and get the Tuna all in one week...NFL players are going to want to come to Miami now.

:up:

You've got to be kidding! When exactly did he have his shot? You can't possibly mean 4 games?

CACarabinieri44New Member
Dec 19, 2007, 08:12 PM

as much as id love Brennan, Ryan, or Brohm here....and as much as i dont like Beck much either, i still think u should give him a good OL, receivers who can catch, a good running game....THEN judge him. if he still doesnt work, Tim Tebow is coming out next year or the year after.

Jim C. from NJJim C. from NJNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 08:24 PM

Somethign tells me Bill will like Beck. Even though Beck has looked like **** with this joke of an offense around him.....he has shown some balls and resourcefulness. I can see Bill keeping him but bringing in another QB to battle with him. Not a top draft pick though.

Not sure if that is the right move but who knows. Part of me is sick of putting bandaids on the QB position and wants the Fins to draft a franchise QB. Part of me thinks many of those guys don't pan out and we need help in other areas.

#1dolphinsfan#1dolphinsfanNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 09:23 PM

"Jim C. from NJ wrote:

Somethign tells me Bill will like Beck. Even though Beck has looked like **** with this joke of an offense around him.....he has shown some balls and resourcefulness. I can see Bill keeping him but bringing in another QB to battle with him. Not a top draft pick though.

Not sure if that is the right move but who knows. Part of me is sick of putting bandaids on the QB position and wants the Fins to draft a franchise QB. Part of me thinks many of those guys don't pan out and we need help in other areas.

you cant make that perdiction in only 4 game which were against some good Secondarys

FIFinominalNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 10:01 PM

Cam probably knew darn well that Brady Quinn will never be a franchise quarterback, and in fact last draft was very weak in QB’s. Like this year with wide receivers. This is the year for quarterback. We will probably take one. We will probably be picking pretty high next year as well. That’s three years, enough to build a franchise any way you want. I say we are going to be looking pretty good. I don’t see that we needed the Tuna to make it happen…

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 10:10 PM

"Finominal wrote:

Cam probably knew darn well that Brady Quinn will never be a franchise quarterback, and in fact last draft was very weak in QB’s. Like this year with wide receivers. This is the year for quarterback. We will probably take one. We will probably be picking pretty high next year as well. That’s three years, enough to build a franchise any way you want. I say we are going to be looking pretty good. I don’t see that we needed the Tuna to make it happen…

If this is true, then why did cam decide on drafting Beck at all? Not counting Beck out but with how the season played out, it'd actually be better if he weren't on the team.

VanDolPhanVanDolPhanSupporter
Dec 19, 2007, 10:16 PM

One of the guys in VIP mentioned the Mort chat from before it was revealed that Parcells was headed here:

Dan (Chicago): Hey Mort, What do you think of John Beck as a QB? I hear a lot of differing opinions on his abilities, his rough stretch is what will happen from time to time and I don't think that in anyway someone could judge his work and say he'll be the man or is a bust. Just curious of your thoughts on the subject.

SportsNation Chris Mortensen: I like him. A lot of people around the league do. That was the problem with playing him. Parcells said it on our radio show - when you throw a young guy out there withlittle supporting case, you can mis-evaluate him, thinking `oops, he's not the guy.' I agree with that.

finfan1966finfan1966New Member
Dec 19, 2007, 10:20 PM

"#1dolphinsfan wrote:

cam as head coach for at least another year and a new GM

Why do people continue to want Cameron and Mueller here another year? We should be 0-16, if it wasn't for a missed field goal thats what we would be. I am so happy that Parcells is on board now. No more dumb GM moves because of knowing someones family.

Time for Marty Ball now and get rid of Mueller.

RoninFin4RoninFin4Supporter
Dec 19, 2007, 10:28 PM

Lawrence Taylor, Willie McGinest, DeMarcus Ware...does that boil down to Vernon Gholston?

@KevinMD4

WAWaywardZestNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 10:33 PM

Parcells would be inclined to take one of the quarterbacks. Let he and Beck battle it out. And why not?

RoninFin4RoninFin4Supporter
Dec 19, 2007, 10:34 PM

"WaywardZest wrote:

Parcells would be inclined to take one of the quarterbacks. Let he and Beck battle it out. And why not?

Even if he leaves Cameron in for another year...I'd like to see what Beck can do given a real shot.

@KevinMD4

DesidesDesidesForum Veteran
Dec 19, 2007, 10:35 PM

Whoa, people want my specific opinion? Wacky.

If Parcells can restrain himself and only exercise oversight authority, then he should be fine. Clearly, some front office changes are coming, but the scope of the change is unknown. I expect Randy Mueller to get the axe after the draft, simply because Mueller and Parcells have no connections and very likely disagree on draft philosophy, or will at least conflict on what to do with the pick. I'd be surprised if Mueller and Parcells work out. Jeff Ireland, the Cowboys' director of scouting, has been mentioned as serious GM candidate. Ireland had as much a hand as Parcells and Jones in the Cowboys' recent drafts, so he wouldn't be a bad talent evaluator to have around. Mike Tannenbaum and Scott Pioli have also been mentioned, but why would they leave? (Also, Tannenbaum sucks.)

I'd like Cameron to be retained, but there's word that Parcells wanted to bring Maurice Carthon and/or Todd Haley to Atlanta, which means he may want to bring either of those guys to Miami. Granted, Atlanta has no head coach, so Parcells may have simply seen an opportunity to plug a reliable person in there, but there's nothing stopping him from firing Cameron and filling the hole.

If Parcells can't restrain himself from being the meddlesome boss he chafed under in Jerry Jones (and Robert Kraft to a lesser extent) then we may have problems. Parcells specifically did not want to be a head coach or a GM, so there's hope that he won't play Football God.

Everyone who wants Jason Garret as our head coach got a nice boost today.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

BRbrentNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 10:50 PM

But Parcells is already a Football God. Keys to this Franchise have already been turned over. Whatever Happens to HC, GM, and even the QB position is now his total Call................

Colorado DolfanColorado DolfanNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 10:52 PM

"finfan1966 wrote:

Time for Marty Ball now and get rid of Mueller.

We had years of "Marty Ball." Having a good season and losing in the playoffs year after year is not what this team needs... ...again... :sad:

Get dirty, get bloody, get sweaty...

...get happy.

-Cam Wake

Coral ReeferCoral ReeferNew Member
Dec 19, 2007, 10:57 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

Yeah but he had his shot. Bring in Colt Brennan and open up the offense. Damn, this has been a sweet week.....we win our first game and get the Tuna all in one week...NFL players are going to want to come to Miami now.

:up:

He had his shot?

He played in 2.5 games on a bad team.
He hasn't begun his "shot" yet.

RIP Jetssuck