Denver's Defense Really Sucks

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GARDENHEADGARDENHEADSupporterOP
Oct 26, 2008, 09:28 PM

I'm already excited for next week!!!! And I can't wait to see what we can do to a really crappy defense!!!

Denver Defensive Stats
Total Defense (yards): #30
Pass Defense #28
Rush Defense: #30
Average points for opponent: 27.9 (#28)

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

Alex44Alex44New Member
Oct 26, 2008, 09:31 PM

I hope we can even up our record again. I think we can be a 9-10 win team, and if those are divisional wins maybe we can be in the playoff chase.

On the draft Quentin Rollins bandwagon.

rdhstlr23rdhstlr23Supporter
Oct 26, 2008, 09:34 PM

Mike Shanahan is alot like Andy Reid after bye's. He's very difficult to beat. I'm not saying that Denver's defense will be great, but they've had time to work on fundamentals, get healthy a bit, and to gameplan for us. I don't think we'll go out there and score 30+ like some are predicting. I still think we struggle in the redzone at times and we make a miscue of some sort to stall drives to score those kind of points on a consecutive basis.

I think our offense will be able to move the ball though. My fear is how in the world are we going to stop that passing offense? We've got to put pressure on Cutler--the only way.

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADSupporter
Oct 26, 2008, 09:35 PM

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Are you on a thread posting quota tonight?

Just ribbin' ya', man. :wink2:

.

There's a lot to discuss!!! I haven't been this excited about my Dolphins since Ricky ran for 1850 yards. What was that, five years ago!?!?!?

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

Sethdaddy8Sethdaddy8Forum Veteran
Oct 26, 2008, 09:36 PM

I have no expectations for this game. Denver can light it up, and thats a long flight. They can really lay an egg too though. Should be fun !

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 09:37 PM

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Are you on a thread posting quota tonight?

Just ribbin' ya', man. :wink2:

But yes, they are atrocious and we have to keep them on the field. I expect Ronnie to get back on track and if we do that and keep Jay Cutler on the sideline, we'll win this game. Shorten the game and try to contain Brandon Marshal and we'll be just fine.

We're also looking at our first cold weather game of the year. I hope it snows, that would benefit us.

I don't see how it benefits us. We aren't a grind it out three yards and a cloud of dust type team right now. I know we want to be and we strive to be, but we are doingmore damage with the intermediate passing game than any other type of offense right now. And even with that being true, Chad's passes look like dead ducks being tossed around the field. The last thing we need is him having to throw with the elements fighting him as well.

Having said that...I love snow games from the visual aspect. :hi5:

StylaStylaNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 09:37 PM

Any given Sunday. I hope we can beat them, but we have to play smart and penalty free. They are still a good team and they play good at home.

I'm still on the high of todays win.:up:

Calm Like A Bomb!!!.....:freestyle:

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BRBrazForPhinsForum Veteran
Oct 26, 2008, 09:39 PM

Hold your breath guys! It's always tough to play at mile high...and their defense might not be so good but their offense is powerful...let them think we're already toasted...as a couple years ago

ConuficusConuficusLuxury Box
Oct 26, 2008, 09:40 PM

Lets keep in mid that they do have some very good corners on their team and that Pennington threw a few ducks out there that could have been picked. Their defensive line is an issue, but Elivis Dumerville is better than you think.

Ginn's big day will have to be backed up with at lest 50 yards next week for us to get the win IMO.

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 09:47 PM

I would like to see how we stop Marshall too. That guy is a super stud. We really didn't stop Evans today as he has over 100 yards receiving. Marshall is bigger and much more physical. He is going to be a matchup nightmare really.

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADSupporter
Oct 26, 2008, 09:54 PM

"Samphin wrote:

I would like to see how we stop Marshall too. That guy is a super stud. We really didn't stop Evans today as he has over 100 yards receiving. Marshall is bigger and much more physical. He is going to be a matchup nightmare really.

Maybe tomorrow he'll slip on a McDonald's bag next to his teevee!

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 09:55 PM

eddie royal looks fantastic, too. the baileys are out..

i hope pennington picks them apart and ronnie runs them over.

more importantly I hope our D can produce like we just did again.

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MelbournePhinMelbournePhinNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 09:59 PM

how the heck did the pats stop them?

steveincoloradosteveincoloradoNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:05 PM

I got club level seats for this game.....FREE:tongue2:

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADSupporter
Oct 26, 2008, 10:09 PM

"steveincolorado wrote:

I got club level seats for this game.....FREE:tongue2:

Congrats!

We want a detailed report.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

steveincoloradosteveincoloradoNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:13 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

Congrats!

We want a detailed report.

:up:
I'll try to upload a few pictures. I'm taking my friend and she hates football, BUT she told me about 2 months ago that if I got tickets to this game she would go.:yes:

Denver fans are pretty cool, never really had an issue with them in the three games that I've been to.

Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:14 PM

"MelbournePhin wrote:

how the heck did the pats stop them?

They injured Cutler's throwing hand.

The Broncos defense is atrocious and I wrote this in another post but I think Miami will have close to 250 yards rushing. If NE can run for 250 with Sammy Morris, Kevin Faulk and BenJarvis Green Ellis then Miami can certainly do the same with Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. Their pass defense sucks as well.

steveincoloradosteveincoloradoNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:15 PM

Also, Mr. Joey Porter is coming home.:shifty:

ALalen1New Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:15 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

Lets keep in mid that they do have some very good corners on their team and that Pennington threw a few ducks out there that could have been picked. Their defensive line is an issue, but Elivis Dumerville is better than you think.

Ginn's big day will have to be backed up with at lest 50 yards next week for us to get the win IMO.

Dumerville struggles an awful lot. I think Jake should be able to handle him. Dre' Bly, in my opinion, is the worst starting Cornerback in the NFL. He's giving up 70% completion rate to Quarterbacks and he struggles against fast(er) receivers. He's going to be matched up against Ted Ginn. Ginn isn't great but if he plays half of what he did today, he'll be good. Bailey is out as well.

Their defense is awful as a whole. Good God, I have never seen a worse defense on video/film. They're putrid. They can't tackle, much like us, they're LBers run away from the ball carrier which I still don't understand, they're defensive front is just not very good and they have no talent in the secondary. However! If the Broncos defense shows up from the Tampa game, we'll be toast. Every game (aside from the Tampa one), they read and react horribly. In that Tampa game though, they displayed good pursuit of the ball carrier. It'll be interesting to see which defense shows up.

Regarding covering Brandon Marshall, I think we will have to put Jason Allen on him at some point.

"MelbournePhin wrote:

how the heck did the pats stop them?

Overpowered 4 of 5 of their linemen and blitzed.

CAcalfishmanSupporter
Oct 26, 2008, 10:17 PM

Denver has an extra week to recover, game plan and work on fundamentals. Miami needs to really work on tackling and have another practice like they raved about last week. Curiously, Sparano gave the team a victory day off with the team getting Monday and tuesday off and not meeting until wednesday.

That seems very unParcells. I guess Sparano really is running this team. Maybe they do need a day off but I worry this will come back to bite em.

Uncle RicoUncle RicoNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:19 PM

I was at Mile High for the Jags game recently. Their crowd was VERY loud and pumped up...until after the opening kickoff. They know their D is horrible and Cutler makes his fair amount of mistakes (still good though.)

I think if Miami's D shows up and plays like they did against Buffalo, NE, and San Diego then we can beat them and just about anyone else for that matter.

steveincoloradosteveincoloradoNew Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:19 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Dumerville struggles an awful lot. I think Jake should be able to handle him. Dre' Bly, in my opinion, is the worst starting Cornerback in the NFL. He's giving up 70% completion rate to Quarterbacks and he struggles against fast(er) receivers. He's going to be matched up against Ted Ginn. Ginn isn't great but if he plays half of what he did today, he'll be good. Bailey is out as well.

Their defense is awful as a whole. Good God, I have never seen a worse defense on video/film. They're putrid. They can't tackle, much like us, they're LBers run away from the ball carrier which I still don't understand, they're defensive front is just not very good and they have no talent in the secondary. However! If the Broncos defense shows up from the Tampa game, we'll be toast. Every game (aside from the Tampa one), they read and react horribly. In that Tampa game though, they displayed good pursuit of the ball carrier. It'll be interesting to see which defense shows up.

Regarding covering Brandon Marshall, I think we will have to put Jason Allen on him at some point.

Overpowered 4 of 5 of their linemen and blitzed.

What is Jason Allen going to do against Brandon Marshall?:no:

Vengeful OdinVengeful OdinForum Veteran
Oct 26, 2008, 10:23 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Dumerville struggles an awful lot. I think Jake should be able to handle him. Dre' Bly, in my opinion, is the worst starting Cornerback in the NFL. He's giving up 70% completion rate to Quarterbacks and he struggles against fast(er) receivers. He's going to be matched up against Ted Ginn. Ginn isn't great but if he plays half of what he did today, he'll be good. Bailey is out as well.

Their defense is awful as a whole. Good God, I have never seen a worse defense on video/film. They're putrid. They can't tackle, much like us, they're LBers run away from the ball carrier which I still don't understand, they're defensive front is just not very good and they have no talent in the secondary. However! If the Broncos defense shows up from the Tampa game, we'll be toast. Every game (aside from the Tampa one), they read and react horribly. In that Tampa game though, they displayed good pursuit of the ball carrier. It'll be interesting to see which defense shows up.

Regarding covering Brandon Marshall, I think we will have to put Jason Allen on him at some point.

Overpowered 4 of 5 of their linemen and blitzed.

Denver's capable of blitzing the passer though. They suck at run defense, but in that Monday night game they got to Cassell for 5 or 6 sacks, I believe.

I wasn't aware that Bailey was out, that certainly makes things easier for us and opens up the whole field for us.

I think that the Denver defense, in a lot of respects, is built on the same principles of New England's defense. Ronnie went nuts in the Patriots game, I expect to see a lot of the same principles put to use against Denver.

To that end, we didn't see a lot of the Wildcat today. I believe that was by design - we're saving up the new stuff for Denver next week.

It also seems like we've been saving Ronnie up for a big game. He's had a much lighter load these last few games than compared to the New England and San Diego games.

There really isn't a good way to stop Denver's passing attack. Cutler isn't rattled by the blitz, and Brandon Marshall is playing like a young Terrell Owens, with the attitude to match. We're going to have to rely on Porter to get pressure on Cutler, which I think can be done, and for someone - whether it's Will Allen, Andre Goodman, Jason Allen, or some hybrid conglomerate - to slow down Marshall in our secondary.

Let's face it though, the only real way to slow down Denver is to keep them off the field. That's why I expect to see us go ball control, with a heavy does of Ronnie in the Wildcat, against a weak Broncos defense.

ALalen1New Member
Oct 26, 2008, 10:30 PM

"steveincolorado wrote:

What is Jason Allen going to do against Brandon Marshall?:no:

I think he's physical enough and has the tools to matchup with him. Do I think it will work? Probably not. :lol:

"Vengeful Odin wrote:

Denver's capable of blitzing the passer though. They suck at run defense, but in that Monday night game they got to Cassell for 5 or 6 sacks, I believe.

I wasn't aware that Bailey was out, that certainly makes things easier for us and opens up the whole field for us.

I think that the Denver defense, in a lot of respects, is built on the same principles of New England's defense. Ronnie went nuts in the Patriots game, I expect to see a lot of the same principles put to use against Denver.

The Patriots offensive line has struggled this year and Cassel holds the ball too long in my opinion.

OT: Anybody see Singletary's first PC? Love it.

To that end, we didn't see a lot of the Wildcat today. I believe that was by design - we're saving up the new stuff for Denver next week.

It also seems like we've been saving Ronnie up for a big game. He's had a much lighter load these last few games than compared to the New England and San Diego games.

Possibly. Good point.

There really isn't a good way to stop Denver's passing attack. Cutler isn't rattled by the blitz, and Brandon Marshall is playing like a young Terrell Owens, with the attitude to match. We're going to have to rely on Porter to get pressure on Cutler, which I think can be done, and for someone - whether it's Will Allen, Andre Goodman, Jason Allen, or some hybrid conglomerate - to slow down Marshall in our secondary.

Let's face it though, the only real way to slow down Denver is to keep them off the field. That's why I expect to see us go ball control, with a heavy does of Ronnie in the Wildcat, against a weak Broncos defense.

Agreed.

Vengeful OdinVengeful OdinForum Veteran
Oct 26, 2008, 10:31 PM

I loved the Singletary press conference. He flashed the same intensity I used to see from him when he was a player back in the day. Loved it.