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Debate Persists on Deadly Flu Made Airborne

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by Fishweiser, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Fishweiser

    Fishweiser New Member

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/science/debate-persists-on-deadly-flu-made-airborne.html



    The young scientist, normally calm and measured, seemed edgy when he stopped by his boss’s office.

    “You are not going to believe this one,” he told Ron Fouchier, a virologist at the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam. “I think we have an airborne H5N1 virus.”

    The news, delivered one afternoon last July, was chilling. It meant that Dr. Fouchier’s research group had taken one of the most dangerous flu viruses ever known and made it even more dangerous — by tweaking it genetically to make it more contagious.

    What shocked the researchers was how easy it had been, Dr. Fouchier said. Just a few mutations was all it took to make the virus go airborne.

    The discovery has led advisers to the United States government, which paid for the research, to urge that the details be kept secret and not published in scientific journals to prevent the work from being replicated by terrorists, hostile governments or rogue scientists.

    Journal editors are taking the recommendation seriously, even though they normally resist any form of censorship. Scientists, too, usually insist on their freedom to share information, but fears of terrorism have led some to say this information is too dangerous to share.

    Some biosecurity experts have even said that no scientist should have been allowed to create such a deadly germ in the first place, and they warn that not just the blueprints but the virus itself could somehow leak or be stolen from the laboratory.

    Dr. Fouchier is cooperating with the request to withhold some data, but reluctantly. He thinks other scientists need the information.

    The naturally occurring A(H5N1) virus is quite lethal without genetic tinkering. It already causes an exceptionally high death rate in humans, more than 50 percent. But the virus, a type of bird flu, does not often infect people, and when it does, they almost never transmit it to one another.

    If, however, that were to change and bird flu were to develop the ability to spread from person to person, scientists fear that it could cause the deadliest flu pandemic in history.

    The experiment in Rotterdam transformed the virus into the supergerm of virologists’ nightmares, enabling it to spread from one animal to another through the air. The work was done in ferrets, which catch flu the same way people do and are considered the best model for studying it.

    “This research should not have been done,” said Richard H. Ebright, a chemistry professor and bioweapons expert at Rutgers University who has long opposed such research. He warned that germs that could be used as bioweapons had already been unintentionally released hundreds of times from labs in the United States and predicted that the same thing would happen with the new virus.

    “It will inevitably escape, and within a decade,” he said, though he added that security measures like restricting possession of the virus to fewer scientists and fewer laboratories would lower the chances of that happening so soon.

    But Dr. Fouchier and many public health experts argue that the experiment had to be done.

    If scientists can make the virus more transmissible in the lab, then it can also happen in nature, Dr. Fouchier said.

    Knowing that the risk is real should drive countries where the virus is circulating in birds to take urgent steps to eradicate it, he said. And knowing which mutations lead to transmissibility should help scientists all over the world who monitor bird flu to recognize if and when a circulating strain starts to develop pandemic potential.

    “There are highly respected virologists who thought until a few years ago that H5N1 could never become airborne between mammals,” Dr. Fouchier said. “I wasn’t convinced. To prove these guys wrong, we needed to make a virus that is transmissible.”

    Other virologists differ. Dr. W. Ian Lipkin of Columbia University questioned the need for the research and rejected Dr. Fouchier’s contention that making a virus transmissible in the laboratory proves that it can or will happen in nature. But Richard J. Webby, a virologist at the St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis, said Dr. Fouchier’s research was useful, with the potential to answer major questions about flu viruses, like what makes them transmissible and how some that appear to infect only animals can suddenly invade humans as well.
     
  2. Ohio Fanatic

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    It is already assumed that someone will try to use Flu as a weapon someday. Matter of fact, the gov't agencies, DOD and BARDA categorize Flu as potential biological weapon.
    The whole point to government stockpiling of anti-virals is to protect our army from a targeted infection.
    makes you feel good (sarcasm) that if a real pandemic hits this country, the armed forces and gov't officials get first dibs at the stockpile of Tamiflu, everyone else scrambles.

    People really don't understand how many people influenza kills every year. Even just in US, typically get 20000 deaths/year from Flu.
    make it worse, Tamiflu is an incredibly crappy drug and fairly ineffective vs Flu. But there are new treatments coming out that will likely be very effective in treating normal flu as well as H5N1 influenza.
     
  3. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    That seems kind of big. I mean apocalyptic big. I was in China a couple of years back and my first impression when I landed at the airport was that I'd landed on the set of the movie Outbreak. Everybody and I mean "every single person" in that first debarkation section was wearing a mask. You had to pass through these large body heat scanners to move on. And they had those same scanners in all of the big hotels too. I never saw anyone set off the sensor but I had this image in my head of returning to the hotel after a morning workout with an elevated body temperature and being tackled by guys in hazmat suits. And that was after 18 deaths in a country that loses a million pedestrians a year in traffic accidents without blinking an eye. Can you imagine the hysteria if 50% of the people who catch a cold each year started dying?
     
  4. Ohio Fanatic

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    well, H5N1 may not ever become a pandemic (i.e. transmitted from human to human), but you still have to be prepared, especially countries like China.
     

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