Pough hurt me really bad. I heard nothing but positives from him. Thought for sure at worse a 5th round guy.
I would have kept Griffin if Ballard wasn't dropped by NE. I think Pough did the same thing Reddick did because both have dropped like a rock.
I liked Ballard but couldn't free up a spot for him. Well Reddick has work ethic concerns is my guess why he dropped. I guess Pough interviewed poorly. He has similar upside as Ty Powell.
I'm sure both will get a UDFA contract, whether they make it through camp remains to be seen. Overall my usual draft, we'll have to wait and see how they all turn out this year.
All my picks went in the 4th round except Bacarri Rambo. Rambo screwed me ;p Did have 2 undrafted that got drafted in Cooper Taylor and Daimion Stafford. None of my picks slid to undrafted.
Updated... I absolutely nailed this draft: Where I drafted them 1.16 CB Xavier Rhodes 1.18 WR DeAndre Hopkins 2.47 S Eric Reid 3.66 LB Sio Moore 3.89 RB Montee Ball 5.141 WR Josh Boyce 6C5 FB Kyle Juszczyk 7C14 LB Eric Martin Where they really went 1.25 (-9) CB Xavier Rhodes 1.27 (-9) WR DeAndre Hopkins 1.18 (+29) S Eric Reid 3.66 (+0) LB Sio Moore 2.58 (+31) RB Montee Ball 4.102 (+39) WR Josh Boyce 4.130 (+66) FB Kyle Juszczyk UDFA (-1) LB Eric Martin net +156.. definitely best I've ever done. Very proud of that. oh and my UDFA TE Luke Willson was drafted 158 overall by the Seahawks. I'll take it LOL...
MIAMI DOLPHINS DRAFT Sharrif Floyd (1.6) - 1.23, Vikings (-17) Justin Hunter (2.37) - 2.34, Titans (+3) Jamar Taylor (2.52) - 2.54, Dolphins (-2) Shamarko Thomas (2.68) - 4.111, Steelers (-43) DJ Hayden (3.83) - 1.12, Raiders (+71) Kiko Alonso (3.94) - 2.46, Bills (+48) Le'Veon Bell (4.119) - 2.48, Steelers (+71) David Quessenberry (5.147) - 6.176, Texans (-29) Gerald Hodges (5.168) - 4.120, Vikings (+48) Earl Watford (7.240) - 4.116, Cardinals (+124) Cierre Wood (7.245) - UNDRAFTED (-7) DRAFTED PLAYER TOTAL: +267 (+24.27 per selection) PRACTICE SQUAD Micah Hyde (7.252) - 5.159, Packers (+93) Charles Johnson (7.252) - 7.216, Packers (+36) Ryan Jensen (7.252) - 7.203, Ravens (+49) John Lotulelei (7.252) - UNDRAFTED (0) Chris Jones (7.252) - 6.198, Texans (+54) ROOKIE PLAYER TOTAL: +499 (+31.18 per selection) On behalf of Stitches, I'd like to say... SUCK IT, PAUL!
Here's the draft order with forfeited picks and compensatory picks factored in: 1 Pittsburgh Steelers Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama 2 New England Patriots Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia 3 Oakland Raiders Dion Jordan, LB, Oregon 4 Detroit Lions Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M 5 Detroit Lions Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia 6 Miami Dolphins Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida 7 Detroit Lions Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama 8 Kansas City Chiefs Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan 9 Baltimore Ravens Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee 10 Houston Texans Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma 11 Tennessee Titans Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah 12 Cleveland Browns Datone Jones, DE, UCLA 13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia 14 Baltimore Ravens Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas 15 New Orleans Saints Ziggy Ansah, DE, Brigham Young 16 St. Louis Rams Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State 17 Cincinnati Bengals Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State 18 St. Louis Rams DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson 19 New York Giants Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia 20 Chicago Bears Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame 21 Denver Broncos Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU 22 Dallas Cowboys Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State 23 Minnesota Vikings Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington 24 Green Bay Packers Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri 25 San Francisco 49ers Jonathan Banks, CB, Mississippi State 26 Green Bay Packers Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina 27 Jacksonville Jaguars Kevin Minter, LB, LSU 28 Seattle Seahawks Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford 29 New England Patriots Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M 30 Detroit Lions Alex Okafor, DE, Texas 31 San Francisco 49ers Keenan Allen, WR, California 32 Green Bay Packers Matt Elam, SS, Florida 33 San Francisco 49ers Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State 34 Buffalo Bills Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech 35 Jacksonville Jaguars Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State 36 Detroit Lions Robert Woods, WR, USC 37 Miami Dolphins Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee 38 Baltimore Ravens Brandon Jenkins, LB, Florida State 39 Cincinnati Bengals DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama 40 Tennessee Titans Jonathan Cyprien, FS, FIU 41 San Francisco 49ers Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina 42 Seattle Seahawks Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame 43 Washington Redskins Matt Barkley, QB, USC 44 Buffalo Bills Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers 45 St. Louis Rams Eric Reid, FS, LSU 46 Kansas City Chiefs Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama 47 Cincinnati Bengals Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia 48 Baltimore Ravens David Amerson, CB, NC State 49 New York Giants Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU 50 Chicago Bears Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech 51 Dallas Cowboys Kawann Short, DT, Purdue 52 Miami Dolphins Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State 53 Pittsburgh Steelers Marcus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State 54 New York Jets Jamie Collins, LB, Southern Mississippi 55 Green Bay Packers Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati 56 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M 57 Denver Broncos Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor 58 Houston Texans Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State 59 New England Patriots Jordan Reed, TE, Florida 60 San Francisco 49ers Margus Hunt, DE, Southern Methodist 61 Cleveland Browns Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pines Bluff 62 Tennessee Titans Giovanni Bernard, RB, North Carolina 63 Jacksonville Jaguars Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU 64 St. Louis Rams Sio Moore, LB, Connecticut 65 Arizona Cardinals Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State 66 Oakland Raiders Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama 67 Chicago Bears Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State 68 Miami Dolphins Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse 69 Seattle Seahawks Kyle Long, OT, Oregon 70 Tennessee Titans Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn 71 Buffalo Bills Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia 72 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Shawn Williams, SS, Georgia 73 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma 74 Baltimore Ravens Zaviar Gooden, LB, Missouri 75 Minnesota Vikings Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse 76 Washington Redskins Vance McDonald, TE, Rice 77 Buffalo Bills Brian Schwenke, C, California 78 New Orleans Saints Larry Warford, OG, Connecticut 79 New York Jets Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall 80 Dallas Cowboys Barrett Jones, C, Alabama 81 New York Giants Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State 82 Houston Texans Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse 83 Miami Dolphins DJ Hayden, CB, Houston 84 Cincinnati Bengals Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State 85 Arizona Cardinals Josh Evans, FS, Florida 86 Carolina Panthers Dallas Thomas, OG, Tennessee 87 St. Louis Rams Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin 88 Kansas City Chiefs Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin 89 Carolina Panthers TJ McDonald, SS, USC 90 Green Bay Packers Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana 91 New England Patriots BW Webb, CB, William & Mary 92 Atlanta Falcons Phillip Thomas, FS, Fresno State 93 Cincinnati Bengals DJ Swearinger, SS, South Carolina 94 Miami Dolphins Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon 95 Pittsburgh Steelers Jonathon Bostic, LB, Florida 96 Minnesota Vikings Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech 97 Jacksonville Jaguars John Jenkins, DT, Georgia 98 Oakland Raiders Leon McFadden, CB, San Diego State 99 San Francisco 49ers Mike Glennon, QB, N.c. State 100 Minnesota Vikings John Simon, DE, Ohio State 101 Arizona Cardinals Bennie Logan DT, LSU 102 Dallas Cowboys Sean Porter, LB, Texas A&M 103 New York Giants Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia 104 Tennessee Titans E.J. Manuel, QB, Floida State 105 Seattle Seahawks Logan Ryan CB, Rutgers 106 Tennessee Titans Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB Connecticut 107 New Orleans Saints Chase Thomas, LB, Stanford 108 Green Bay Packers Nico Johnson, LB, Alabama 109 New York Jets Brian Winters, OG, Kent State 110 New York Jets Kevin Reddick, LB, North Carolina 111 New York Jets Tharold Simon, CB, Louisiana State University 112 New York Jets JJ Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern 113 New York Jets Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas 114 New York Giants Jonathan Franklin, RB, UCLA 115 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State 116 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson 117 Buffalo Bills Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut 118 Arizona Cardinals Keith Pough, LB, Howard 119 Miami Dolphins Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State 120 Carolina Panthers Devonte Holloman, LB, South Carolina 121 Seattle Seahawks Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina 122 Pittsburgh Steelers Malliciah Goodman, DE, Clemson 123 Cleveland Browns Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford 124 Denver Broncos Trevardo Williams, LB, Connecticut 125 Buffalo Bills Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M 126 Seattle Seahawks Ace Sanders, WR, South Carolina 127 San Francisco 49ers Chris Gragg, TE, Arkansas 128 New England Patriots Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas 129 Detroit Lions TJ Barnes, DT, Georgia Tech 130 Buffalo Bills Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois 131 Baltimore Ravens Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma 132 Dallas Cowboys Lonnie Pryor, RB, Florida State 133 Pittsburgh Steelers Joseph Randle, RB Oklahoma State 134 Tennessee Titans Cornelius Washington, DE, Georgia 135 Philadelphia Eagles David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado 136 Detroit Lions Michael Buchanan, DE, Illinois 137 Cincinnati Bengals Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida 138 Arizona Cardinals Montori Hughes, DT, Tennessee-Martin 139 Arizona Cardinals Hugh Thornton, OT, Illinois 140 Baltimore Ravens Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas 141 Arizona Cardinals Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida 142 Houston Texans Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee 143 New Orleans Saints Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas 144 Cleveland Browns Xavier Nixon, OT, Florida 145 St. Louis Rams Josh Boyce, WR, TCU 146 Chicago Bears Brandon McGee, CB, Miami 147 Miami Dolphins David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State 148 Cleveland Browns Sean Renfree, QB, Duke 149 San Francisco 49ers J.C. Tretter, OG, Cornell 150 Dallas Cowboys Will Davis, CB, Utah State 151 New York Giants Tavarres King, WR, Georgia 152 Chicago Bears Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers 153 Minnesota Vikings Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State 154 Baltimore Ravens Willie Carter, TE, Tulsa 155 Kansas City Chiefs Nick Kasa, TE, Colorado 156 Baltimore Ravens Levine Toilolo, TE, Stanford 157 Philadelphia Eagles William Gholston, DE, Michigan State 158 Philadelphia Eagles Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia 159 Philadelphia Eagles AJ Klein, LB, Iowa State 160 Washington Redskins Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon 161 Dallas Cowboys Denard Robinson, WR, Michigan 162 Atlanta Falcons Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin 163 Green Bay Packers Connor Vernon, WR, Duke 164 Chicago Bearswill Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina 165 Atlanta Falcons Ryan Otten, TE, San Jose State 166 Baltimore Ravens Jonathan Stewart, LB, Texas A&M 167 Kansas City Chiefs Chris Faulk, OT, LSU 168 Miami Dolphins Gerald Hodges, LB, Penn State 169 New England Patriots Zac Dysert, QB, Miami (OH) 170 Oakland Raiders Matt Scott, QB, Arizona 171 Kansas City Chiefs Robert Lester, SS, Arizona 172 Carolina Panthers Stefphon Jefferson, RB Nevada 173 Oakland Raiders Colin Klein, QB Kansas State 174 Philadelphia Eagles Duke Williams, FS, Nevada 175 Arizona Cardinals Quanterus Smith, DE, Western Kentucky 176 Cleveland Browns Everett Dawkins, DT, Florida State 177 New Orleans Saints Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA 178 Detroit Lions Etienne Sabino, LB, Ohio State 179 New York Jets Khaled Holmes, C, USC 180 New York Giants Omoregie Uzzi, OG, Georia Tech 181 San Francisco 49ers Nickell Robey, CB, USC 182 Detroit Lions Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois 183 Jacksonville Jaguars Michael Williams, TE, Alabama 184 New Orleans Saints Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia 185 San Francisco 49ers Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina 186 Dallas Cowboys Josh Johnson, CB, Pursue 187 Pittsburgh Steelers Mychal Rivera, TE, Tennessee 188 New York Giants John Sullen, OG, Auburn 189 Chicago Bears Ty Powell, DE, Harding 190 Chicago Bears Jake Stoneburner, TE, Ohio State 191 Chicago Bears Steve Williams, CB, California 192 Washington Redskins Jordan Hill, DT, Penn State 193 Arizona Cardinals Mark Harrison, WR, Rutgers 194 Washington Redskins Tony Jefferson, FS, Oklahoma 195 Philadelphia Eagles Aaron Mellette, WR, Elon 196 New York Jets Lavar Edwards, OLB, LSU 197 Pittsburgh Steelers Rontez Miles, FS, California (PA) 198 Pittsburgh Steelers Rodney Smith, WR, Florida State 199 Atlanta Falcons Tanner Hawkinson, OT, Kansas 200 New York Jets Earl Wolff, SS, North Carolina State 201 Chicago Bears Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State 202 Atlanta Falcons Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida 203 Oakland Raiders Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State 204 Atlanta Falcons Brad Wing, P, LSU 205 St. Louis Rams Kyle Juszczyk, FB, Harvard 206 Houston Texans Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington State 207 Kansas City Chiefs Tourek Williams, LB, FIU 208 Denver Broncos Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech 209 Arizona Cardinals Rex Burkhead, RB, Nebraska 210 Cleveland Browns Ray Graham, RB, Pittsburgh 211 Washington Redskins Tommy Bohanon, FB, Wake Forrest 212 New York Jets Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas 213 San Francisco 49ers Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech 214 Baltimore Ravens Brett Baer, K, Louisiana-Lafayette 215 Tennessee Titans Vince Williams, LB, Florida State 216 Green Bay Packers Jordan Rodgers, QB, Vanderbilt 217 New York Jets Joe Kruger, DE, Utah 218 New York Jets Lerentee McCray, LB, Florida 219 Baltimore Ravens John White, RB, Utah 220 Indianapolis Colts Ray Ray Armstong, SS, Miami 221 Tennessee Titans Michael Mauti, LB, Penn State 222 Pittsburgh Steelers Eric Herman, OG, Ohio 223 Denver Broncos Bruce Taylor, LB, Virginia Tech 224 New York Giants Johnny Adams, CB, Michigan State 225 New England Patriots Josh Boyd, DT, Mississippi State 226 San Francisco 49ers Marc Anthony, CB, California 227 Washington Redskins Garrett Gilkey, OG, Chadron State 228 Arizona Cardinals Ryan Griffin, QB, Tulane 229 Denver Broncos Cody Davis, SS, Texas Tech 230 Baltimore Ravens Brent Russell, DT, Georgia Southern 231 San Francisco 49ers Jeff Baca, OG, UCLA 232 Baltimore Ravens Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio State 233 Indianapolis Colts Brandon Hepburn, LB, Florida A&M 234 New England Patriots Rod Sweeting, CB, Georgia Tech 235 Atlanta Falcons Steve Greer, LB, Virginia 236 San Francisco 49ers Braxton Cave, C, Notre Dame 237 Baltimore Ravens Mike Catapano, LB, Princeton 238 Oakland Raiders Matt Furstenburg, TE, Maryland 239 Cincinnati Bengals Latavius Murray, RB, Central Florida 240 Miami Dolphins Earl Watford, OG, James Madison 241 San Diego Chargers Vinston Painter, OT, Virginia Tech 242 New York Giants Matt Summers-Gavin, OT, California 243 Houston Texans Dennis Johnson, RB, Arkansas 244 New England Patriots Zeke Motta, SS, Notre Dame 245 Miami Dolphins Cierre Wood, RB, Notre Dame 246 Philadelphia Eagles Zac Stacy, RB, Vanderbilt 247 Cincinnati Bengals Kemal Ishmael, SS, UCF 248 San Diego Chargers Kerwynn Williams, RB, Utah State 249 Baltimore Ravens Rashad White, DT, Michigan State 250 St. Louis Rams Eric Martin, LB, Nebraska 251 Indianapolis Colts Sam Brenner, OG, Utah
Still feel Miami won this draft at least from the value stand point. Hayden is the steal of the draft IMO no contest. Will be fun to see where every draft class is at in a few years.
Didn't Jenkins win draft steal and only play like 2 snaps? Wont happen with Hayden but if Manuel turns out a similar year like Wilson hard to keep things the same.
In terms of draft placement, yes. However Paul won draft steal of the year with Mark Barron at #32 and looking back now that can be argued.
Curious how you "other" fans think your team did in the draft. We got Green Bay, Tampa, Giants, Pats, Raiders fans here (might have missed one or two of you). I think the Raiders and Packers actually had good drafts. Raiders... who'd have thunk that? And the Packers getting Lacy and Franklin... mmmmm
As for the Dolphins... I think we did a pretty good job improving our defense. Getting faster... Adding speed and playmaking ability which is what we needed to do. Dion Sims might end up being a real steal for us. I don't think we're done on the Oline... see what free agency has to bring us. Although I'm glad we didn't panic for Branden Albert. These three dbacks we took, all fast and can play the ball in the air. Something we sorely needed. And Gillislee could end up being a starter for us at tail back. I would give it a B. It can easily become an A if Dion Jordan becomes what his draft position says he should be. We'll see.
All this is in terms of draft placement. Pough and Mark '****ter' Harrison ruined my draft. Funny though still one of my better drafts. I have to remember College production trumps athletic character problems.
I'm lukewarm on my draft, especially Watson. I think we got good value with all of our picks, but we're still picking slow minded athletes too high. Hayden's okay, but I'm tired of the build from the DBs down philosophy. I like Moore but we're pretty full at LB, though he seems to be a rusher. Wilson was my least hated QB in the class, but I still have little hope for him and we could have used a more ready player. The late rounders are all whatever anyway, but more projects.
Sparano is your OL coach right? He'll be fist pumping himself to death knowing Watson is on his team. Tony is a good OL coach, it's what he does well, that's a good match. Likewise Watson is getting a good guy to coach him up right.
I really like the first two picks because I happened to draft them and it's not the only time the Patriots have looked at my draft for their defensive unit like Brandon Spikes, Dont'a Hightower, Chandler Jones and what not. Collins is a kid I really liked, more reports had him going to the Colts. He's been all over the field and so athletic that I could see him rush off the line or drop back in coverage as a linebacker. He fits the multi-use defender the Patriots use. As for Dobson he's the highes I've ever drafted a WR and I really haven't been able to draft a good one, for the most part I like his speed and size, and the kid has great hands but we'll see if he develops into the threat I think he can be on the outside. For the rest of the draft I'm lukewarm to because I haven't really looked hard at them, and apparently Rutgers has had a lot of NFL level prospects, I don't really see the 7th rounders being on the main roster but Logan and Harmon should be able to contribute to special teams. Out of the last three classes this would be my least favorite with last year being my favorite for the patriots. Though I like the receivers they added, but I expect a drop in production this season which I hope I'm wrong about.
Sparano's actually the guy who pushed for the pick, sorta begged Reggie even, so this is where they'll earn their money if so. We actually had a tradedown in place supposedly with NE if Te'o fell to us, and then again if Woods fell to us. The latter of course went one pick before.
So my last 3 drafted guys ended up going late or not getting drafted at all. That hurts my overall +/- score, but I'll take not having my 5th, 6th, and 7th guys end up going high when my first 3 picks all went by the middle of the 2nd round (all much higher than I took them).
Well I learned a lot from you guys for my rookie season. Amped up minor squabbles just to keep things active around here (thank you Odin ;p). Think I did alright sorting out a pretty putrid Bills team. If cap penalties are included...next year could get real rough for making trades...so I don't know if we want to go that far. Trading helped keep things active. It was fun guys. Not sure if I will be back next year...maybe I might more in a limited fashion as a more quiet owner (Not as fast on trades and not as active with the 'persona' etc). All depends on my free time which I had a lot of this past winter due to certain things.