Dave Hyde: Bill Parcells should be embarrassed

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  1. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    way too early. he brought us from crap to mediocrity and we still have at least one more year of the Parcells era to see where it leads us. If the offense gets its act together next year, Parcells will be a savior
     
  2. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Parcells is gone man... but I do agree with you about how he did turn things around to an extent. Especially on the defensive side of the ball. I had a little sarcasm going with that previous post. I think some expected him to solve world hunger or something. :wink2:
     
  3. djphinfan

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    I dont want Ryan either..but there is no excuse to advise any other team while on the clock.
     
  4. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    well for world hunger, you have to give them at least five years. four years is too soon. :lol:

    as for him being gone, his legacy is Ireland and Sparano. So long as either is still here its a Parcells team. Should they be fired at some point then the Parcells era will end. He was just brought in to build the infrastructure, not to sit around until we actually won a SB. The infrastructure is in place. Now we'll see how far it takes us
     
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  5. DolfanJake

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    According to Mike Dee, who is high in the Dolphins organization, he said on radio yesterday, that Parcells is no longer even consulting for the team - he is completely OUT of the picture.
     
  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I want to so bad think like this, but no man, he didn't do this right..The franchise has taken a hit in the pocketbook regardless if Tony gets thru this mess or that we both agree that it was a four year plan from the get....coaches have been fired Prez..He didn't associate himself with us..and he didn't fufill his contract.
     
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  7. padre31

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    I'm with APrez Deej, to me we have a good core, have gotten much younger, and have massively upgraded the talent compared to pre Tuna Days.

    That said, he gave what..4 interviews in 3 yrs?

    Prez is also right in that whatever Ireland and Sparano do, is his legacy in Miami, though I do have to wonder what people expected as our record in Miami is probably right around his record in Dallas for the first 3 seasons:

    10-6/6-10/9-7=29-23
     
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  8. muscle979

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    It's not unfair and it's not an 'unrealistic expectation' to expect a man being paid millions to run a franchise to hire who he feels is the best head coach out there to coach the team. That's why Wayne Huizenga agreed to pay the **** man. Otherwise why couldn't Wayne just continue hiring guys himself to coach the team? I don't give two ****s if the team is improved now. [Which is very debatable, so many more questions moving forward than answers] Tuna was never committed to this franchise or he wouldn't pass over a guy who blew him away so that he could hire his buddy from Dallas who almost got fired a couple of weeks ago. People are missing [or most likely ignoring] the point because Rex has a big mouth and all of that garbage. Rex's personality doesn't excuse Parcells from doing his job in a half*** manner. He didn't just say he though Fat Rex was a good coach, he put him into an elite category with Bill Bellichick. This is not about whether Rex should be the coach of the Dolphins. This is about a man at the top who was not committed to making the franchise the best it could possibly be. If you are committed to that then you hire the people you think are THE best, period.
     
  9. muscle979

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    Any number of people could have helped Miami go from terrible to mediocre. People are acting like it's some big accomplishment that required some 'Parcells magic'.
     
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  10. Desides

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    In the end, Parcells received $16 million to take us from bad to mediocre. That’s not a praiseworthy accomplishment, unless you’re Bill Parcells bragging to your buddies how you wrung the last dollar out of a frantically desperate Wayne Huizenga.

    And we know that a lot of the free agency and draft goofs were on Bill Parcells, such as Gibril Wilson and Pat White, while he also failed to get us a quarterback. That sort of talent evaluation isn’t really worth $4 million a year.
     
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  11. djphinfan

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    well I understand the angle of thinking and believing that Irish and Sparano becoming successful and turning this thing around, justifies the early departure, I just don't respect how the process has unfolded under his watch, nor his vision from an executive position...

    Hopefully he used all his wisdom and knowledge, when making the decisions to hire Tony and Irish, and the decision to leave when he did...

    You know how much respect I had for him...Iam hopin that the pric made great and accurate judgements on these two men.
     
  12. Southbeach

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    For whatever it's worth, Tuna was very explicit on ownership. I cannot fault him on backing off on the clown , now the owner of our team, having power. If it were me, I would do the same.

    I can guarantee that players and coaches miss him. To that degree, he did let them down. However, he did make his intent VERY CLEAR with Wayne.
     
  13. Southbeach

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    Wayne lied to Tuna in saying he would maintain ownership. Not the right thig to do.
     
  14. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    I like how people say football is a "business" like its some kind of business similar to those in our free market. You're comparing apples & oranges. Calls are made between coaches through the year asking for tips on how to beat other teams. BFD enlighten me as to how Parcells wealth of info shared turned the Jets around yet did nothing for the Dolphins.
     
  15. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Well said.

    I lost a lot of respect for BP as a result of how this all played out, the whole thing. And, while I realize there were a lot of things that went on behind closed doors that none of us will ever know about, I just thought his level of expertise would benefit us more than where we find ourselves today. Then there's his cowardly exit before the job is done. FU BP!
     
  16. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    I'm not here to say Parcells doesn't deserve most of the blame here. But WH structured his contract and just as with JJ he fell in love with the big name. If you assume that Parcells didn't give his best then the same would be for WH. It's like a bad relationship I just want to forget it and move on.
     
  17. adamprez2003

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    just to add one final bit, just compare the personalities of Parcells and Ross. Do you think Parcells respected Ross? I think Parcells hated Ross. Ross has a bit too much of a barnum and bailey showman in him, a snake oil salesman type of style.
     
  18. adamprez2003

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    well thats the thing DJ. It really comes down to Ireland. If Parcells was right about Ireland then we will be fine. The most important man in any sport is the GM. He is more responsible for winning or losing than any coach or single player. If you have a good GM its only a matter of time till you're good. So far we know he can build a defense and 2008 and 2009 suggest he can build a running game. The book is still out whether he can find a QB
     
  19. Desides

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    No, he didn’t. Wayne told Parcells during their negotiations that he was looking to sell the team. This fact came out after the sale was made. Parcells knew there would be a change of ownership and signed on the dotted line anyway.
     
  20. djphinfan

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    1 and 9 in your last 10 at home, 1 and 7 at home in the 3rd year of your rebuilding effort..NOONE should of quit....No sir.
     
  21. cdz12250

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    Step back. Did Dallas win Super Bowls while Parcells, Sparano and Ireland were there? Then why in hell bring Sparano and Ireland here, and all those Dallas scrub players? I mean, really: who the hell is Sparano? An offensive line coach whose head coaching resume was the University of Hartford? Think about the people Parcells brought and you'll see he wasn't using his head to be creative and get the best people available. He was lazy. If we hadn't been enamored of his name, wouldn't we have said "WTF?" when he brought these people in?
     

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