Dave Hyde: Another empty season ends for the Dolphins

cool...you found something....isn´t it time to change that pic...78 catches 853 yards...10.9 average, 5 TD´s....in 31 games...thats basically Jarvis Landry first season with us

"Alex13 wrote:

cool...you found something....isn´t it time to change that pic...78 catches 853 yards...10.9 average, 5 TD´s....in 31 games...thats basically Jarvis Landry first season with us

You're right, do need to change my sig pic

F#@kin' Hyde man...

From the article:

To understand what the football nation thinks of the Dolphins, look across the field Sunday at the Jets. What do you think of them? The Jets will undergo another wash-rinse-dry cycle of new coach and new front office in the manner the Dolphins have done so many times. The incoming name will be the fifth Jets coach since 2000. The Dolphins also have five since 2000.

And the difference there is that they haven't established the quarterback play necessary to feel hopeful about Rex Ryan's future in New York, whereas Ryan Tannehill is playing in such a way that you don't disturb his surroundings and his development by firing his head coach. The game revolves around quarterback play to the extent that it should be the primary consideration in making decisions such as these.

1 LB, 1 guard and a CB - and we're a strong playoff team.

Hickey needs to follow up with another good draft.

The only part of Andys story I disagree with is that the Heat are anything more than average much like the other Florida sports teams.

"firedan wrote:

The only part of Andys story I disagree with is that the Heat are anything more than average much like the other Florida sports teams.

Dumbest post of the year.

Heat have accomplished more in 25 years than the Dolphins have in nearly 50.

Same thing goes for the Marlins as well. Same number of titles in half the time

Ah mr. Hyde.

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I usually agree with Dave Hyde, but not this time. I look at the Lions, who were mired in multiple decades of perennial mediocrity, and how they slowly but surely dug their way out. Maybe the way out for us isn't to time-transport the team back to how the league was in'69 and bring on the Second Coming of Don Shula. Maybe it's like the Lions.

In perspective, one has to think that expecting a Super Bowl every year was unrealistic. What we have now is more like reality. We'd be better off studying how Belichick did what he did in New England.

Seeing as Philbin is sticking around, I feel like today's game is pretty important. Not just for the sake of beating our rivals. We need to end on a high note to get a little positive energy going as we head into the offseason.

Hard to say how the Jets'll come out. Rex's last game should mean something to them...but I mean the dude is already cleaning out his office, lol.

"schmolioot wrote:

Dumbest post of the year.

Heat have accomplished more in 25 years than the Dolphins have in nearly 50.

Same thing goes for the Marlins as well. Same number of titles in half the time

I.m talking today.The Heat are no longer a great team.LeBron left by the way.

Hyde's article is pretty spot on. There's a LOT of holes on defense that I don't think many fans notice, and Miami still have to rework the O-line and receiving corps to be a playoff caliber team. Dennis Hickey, who was essentially Jeff Ireland average this year, has his work cut out for him this offseason.

"firedan wrote:

I.m talking today.The Heat are no longer a great team.LeBron left by the way.

Hyde's point was that the Heat doesn't accept mediocrity and that they have a plan to be great again.

Believe me, Riley and Arison aren't crowi about being the 7th seed right now

"schmolioot wrote:

Dumbest post of the year.

Heat have accomplished more in 25 years than the Dolphins have in nearly 50.

Same thing goes for the Marlins as well. Same number of titles in half the time

That's one way to look at it, if you're judging just by championships won. But imo there's more to it than that- the Shula era brought with it a sustained level of excellence- the 2 Super Bowl wins were a little before my time, but for twenty years after that we were usually in the thick of things and game days were electric, Dolphins Monday Night Football games were an event and of course there was Dan Marino. Everyone got jacked up for the games, the Don Shula Shows with Chuck Dowdle at 8:30 just before MNF were great and the Dolphins were central to south Florida. To me that's critical stuff, not just championships won versus the Heat and Marlins. The last twenty years under Huizenga and Ross have been mostly crap and a far cry from how great it was to be a Dolphins fan in the 80's and 90's. To me the Dave Hyde article is spot on.

Low standards = Mediocre results.

Would you eat at a restaurant whose owner kept a chef whose food was, "No longer bad, but now above average!"

It is what it is, it's not as if no one is trying to get this team over the hump. It's time to build continuity because the 3 year plan is ridiculous when your virtually turning the entire roster over. Its easy to forget Miami had the worst team and least talented roster in the league just over a handful of years ago. Hyde is simply whining with no purpose but to vent frustrations and share his negative perspectives on everything. No surprise OP jumped at this article. If it was upbeat with insight into the future of the team it would be worthless.

"Bpk wrote:

Low standards = Mediocre results.

Would you eat at a restaurant whose owner kept a chef whose food was, "No longer bad, but now above average!"

No, and the metaphor makes sense when you have back to back owners whose "sense of taste" when it comes to football is not so hot.

You can't deny the team's progress. I love how throwing away everything we built to hire some Nobody to be our saviour is the right course of action while continuing to progress is an acceptance of mediocrity. Talk about Bass ackwards. At least suggest a better alternative if your going to act like you know so much.

"P h i N s A N i T y wrote:

You can't deny the team's progress. I love how throwing away everything we built to hire some Nobody to be our saviour is the right course of action while continuing to progress is an acceptance of mediocrity. Talk about Bass ackwards. At least suggest a better alternative if your going to act like you know so much.

To many it's quite a simple process.

1. Fire everyone. Fire the gm and coaches. Fire the janitors and IT staff. The kitchen workers and team chefs.

2. Hire gm X and coach Y.

3. ???

3a. Wait a year and a half.

4. Instant Dynasty.

5. (Optional) If the above does not work, repeat steps 1-4.

"P h i N s A N i T y wrote:

You can't deny the team's progress. I love how throwing away everything we built to hire some Nobody to be our saviour is the right course of action while continuing to progress is an acceptance of mediocrity. Talk about Bass ackwards. At least suggest a better alternative if your going to act like you know so much.

Not sure why having a strong opinion about this one-way-or-another always has to turn into an indictment of posters character and personality traits.

My best option will probably end up coaching Michigan, so if Ross basically stuck with Philbs because there are no better candidates, and so Hickey and Philbs can both be kept or fired at the same time next season, then it makes a bit of sense.

Not any more palatable, though.

"lmeister3 wrote:

To many it's quite a simple process.

1. Fire everyone. Fire the gm and coaches. Fire the janitors and IT staff. The kitchen workers and team chefs.

2. Hire gm X and coach Y.

3. ???

3a. Wait a year and a half.

4. Instant Dynasty.

I think people would accept this better if it were in the context of a history of savvy moves by Ross. The context of his past blunders makes it harder to see the current decision favorably. Also, Dan Marino's annoyed face behind Ross' dopey one is all I can see when I think of Philbin being retained.

"Bpk wrote:

Not sure why having a strong opinion about this one-way-or-another always has to turn into an indictment of posters character and personality traits.

My best option will probably end up coaching Michigan, so if Ross basically stuck with Philbs because there are no better candidates, and so Hickey and Philbs can both be kept or fired at the same time next season, then it makes a bit of sense.

Not any more palatable, though.

It's the common theme of a posters certainty as to what is the incorrect course of actions, with zero insight to what is the correct course of action. It's the "grass is always greener" mentality that is widely understood as the most ignorant stance you can take. It's one thing to have a strong opinion , but to consider your opinions fact..... And assume the professionals know less than you.... Would certainly be an indictindictment on a posters character.

"cdz12250 wrote:

I usually agree with Dave Hyde, but not this time. I look at the Lions, who were mired in multiple decades of perennial mediocrity, and how they slowly but surely dug their way out. Maybe the way out for us isn't to time-transport the team back to how the league was in'69 and bring on the Second Coming of Don Shula. Maybe it's like the Lions.

In perspective, one has to think that expecting a Super Bowl every year was unrealistic. What we have now is more like reality. We'd be better off studying how Belichick did what he did in New England.

Interesting you mentioned the Lions, who underwent a coaching change and suddenly they're getting good returns on the talent they have on their roster.

"schmolioot wrote:

Dumbest post of the year.

Heat have accomplished more in 25 years than the Dolphins have in nearly 50.

Same thing goes for the Marlins as well. Same number of titles in half the time

DOLPHINS have been to 5 Super Bowls and won 2......and they did it the hard way...they did not buy their Championships ! ! ! !