Dare I? NY Knicks back in the playoffs thread

and of course, you would bet on it?

They are about to sign Mike Bibby...so does that allow you to wiggle out of it?

If not..you would of course give me the same line on Bodog? right?

Just curious..what "has" to change?

 

You could say things need to change for almost every team in the league if they want to win the title.

 

BTW, Carmelo Anthony after the game saying "I asked to guard Lebron on that play" was LOL funny.

SO he asked to guard a guy and then have that guy blow right past him. Amare saved his *** from a pretty funny moment in his lockeroom.

 

So what did Melo the defensive maven say?

 

"FORCED Lebron into Amare" is a nice way of saying he got blown by.

Not who "he is". Who he is, is a guy that has dominated Carmelo Anthony his entire career. Who he is, is a guy that has been past the first round more than ONE time in his entire career and made a Finals. Last I checked, Carmelo is working on another 1st round exit this year, so slow your roll.

Don't get your delusions up over one game buddy.

 

"not who he is"
See; playoffs, 2009, vs magic.

Playoffs is a whole different season.

 

A three to keep the Knicks from being 1 game over .500 is not such a big shot.

Guys that have reputations of making big shots, had to have made a big shot in a big spot. The list includes alot of people...one of them is not Carmelo Anthony, yet he has a ton of game winning shots vs. Milwaukee in November.

Historically...Carmelo Anthony has been a mediocre playoff performer known for volume shooting.

Lebron is working on one of the greatest playoff careers of all-time. Dwyane Wade is on the same level BTW.

and these are not small sample sizes. We are talking 45 games for Melo, 71 for Lebron and 66 for Wade.

So this "clutch" argument really boils down to simple facts. BOTH Lebron and D-Wade out perform their regular season numbers in the playoffs. Melo under performs. he plays better in the regular season.

 

I am delusional? you are the one that has NY at 2-1 vs. the Heat.

The Heat is 2-2 vs. the Knicks. TWO beatdowns. forgot already? The two wins the Knicks got are the one they got that went down to the wire when the Heat was without Bosh and 2 other guys. The second one, this last one.

 

You see sports fans? THIS is why you do not want the Knicks to be relevant. Because, All of sudden, their fan's memory gets very short.

 

Buzzer beaters? NOBODY haw great stats at buzzer beaters. He'll, allmighty Kobe has terrible "buzzer beaters" they just posted an article. When was the last time Billups hit a "big
Shot" ? Sure, pointing to Sunday is easy, but overall, he has been cold for a while. Now, Billups is a great player, but he hasn't been living up to his name. Google Kobe crunch time stats.
Point is, callig "LeFraud" "not that guy" is ignorant, to say the least. I just
Showed you a game winning 3 with less than a second remaining at ECF none the lless. LeBron carried that Cleveland team to the playoffs and even Championship games on his back. Wade single handenly owned Mavs when it mattered the most. What have Mello and Stat have done in the playoffs?

 

You were debating "clutch". I stated facts that contradict your assertion. Now you don't want to hear it.

understandable. But hey..if the Knicks can magically be 2-1 vs. the Heat in your mind, then maybe the stats can change also.

 

What do you expect from Neanderthal Man?

 

Dare I? The New York Knicks are back! Everything happens for a reason, and on behalf of New York City, I am happy LeBron James did NOT come here.

Chris Paul or Dwight Howard in 2012. The CITY IS BACK!

CARMELO > LEBRON

 

Wow. Did I just see a Chris Bosh to Kevin Garnett comparison. I see somebody doesn't watch much basketball.

 

Bosh is not a better defender then amare by any stretch. Amar'e has more BPG, more PPG, better FG%, hes a candidate for MVP which is more then anyone has EVER said for that wimp Bosh. Go tell me when Amar'e has ever shot 1-18 vs anyone. Fact: Amar'e imposes his will and is always among the league leader in dunks. From 10 feet and in there is no more complete big man on offense and his defense has made a 180 from where it was in Phoenix. Bosh is a mirror image of Kevin Garnett....in Garnett's rookie year. otherwise he couldnt hold Garnett's jock. He will never win DPOY like KG did 2x. Not sayin Amar's will but at least Amar'e shows signs of being a good defender which is more then I can say for Bosh.

I didnt say Amar'e didnt guard Bosh...I said Bosh didnt guard Amar'e. That means when Amar'e was on offense he was being guarded by J. anthony but when Amar'e was on D he was spending plenty of time on Bosh. My argument isnt the one with holes in it.

Actually melo guarded LePip the last 7+ minutes. How'd Lebron do those last 7 minutes? Those last 2 shots? Brick city. Swat city. Just stop.

 

Oh and as for who owns who...Melo OWNS LeFraud.....http://www.newsday.com/sports/baske...er-insisted-billups-be-in-the-trade-1.2718516

"Carmelo Anthony improved to 10-4 all-time against LeBron James, going back to their epic high school battle in 2002. Carmelo said before the game that he didn't want to turn it into a one-on-one battle, but in the fourth quarter he took the initiative to do just that on the defensive end when he told Walker to switch to Joel Anthony, so he could guard LeBron. "I just wanted to take that challenge tonight," Anthony said. "It helped us out, I think. The guys fed off that energy, they see me out there, leading us on the defensive end. They followed that lead and they picked up the slack."

Anthony clearly wanted to answer George Karl's criticism about his defensive committment and after a lackidasical effort by the entire team in the loss to Cleveland. He was very active defensively in his debut on Wednesday against the Bucks and showed a determination at that end of the floor (and on the glass, with nine boards). He also said he and Stoudemire talked about setting LeBron up for that drive that resulted in Stoudemire coming over for the game-saving block."

 

wins and losses. this is an argument about two players one on one. Lebron OWNS Melo. Period. Melo's career low numbers on a PG average are the lowest vs. ONE player. That guy, you know who he is.

 

Do you even know the stats on LeBron's last second shooting?????

 

Sorry, but once LeBron left Cleveland and stopped trying to be Michael Jordan, he ceased to be LeFraud. Come up with a new nickname for him and stop using mine, please.

And remove your vandalism from the title of the Marlins thread while you’re at it.

 

I actually didn't do that on the marlins thread. That's been there from day one of the thread which I think was made the day of the uggla trade

 

Aren't wins and losses what matters most? Melo is a winner. Hs ..he beat lebron. College he won a title. NBA he will win vs lebron. Maybe not yet since you guys have a third piece but eventually

 

The original title was “Still better than the Mets”. Then it was mysteriously edited.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but basketball is a team game right?

 

and You call him a "wimp". The Knicks fans win a couple of games and they revert right back. Amare Stoudemire is not better than BOSH at ANY one thing on the defensive end. Blocks per game for a guy that plays center and is never asked to matchup while always being free to roam from the weakside is not saying much. he is put into positions to block shots...and he sucks at that too. The simple fact is that Bosh has outplayed Amare head to head this year. PERIOD. and historically, has had his best games for his CAREER versus PHOENIX. I WONDER WHO PLAYED THERE? Just lol. If you had signed Carlos Boozer, you would have made the SAME argument for him, and guess what...he would have similar numbers to Amare this year. Every single GM int eh league would disagree with you about Amare being a better defender than Bosh. Amare is a help defender. Bosh has actual numbers backing him up. Remember those? Oh yeah, they actually keep score on what guys do vs. each other. Bosh = Good. Amare= Not so much.

Always a ****ing excuse. It is a fact that he guarded Amare plenty in that game as per the tell tale scorers breakdown. So you are wrong. and Joel Anthony "THE WARDEN" thanks all of you Knick fans for giving him a new lease on his career. If it wasn;t for all the ridiculous "MVP" talk, The Warden might have found himself traded to Minnesota.

Last 7 minutes? LOL. First of all, Lebron entered the game with 7:09 left along with Carmelo Anthony.

Lebron was 3-6 for 50%, (2 of those were 3's) and 3-4 from line for 9 points.. So ..that "great" defense" you thought you saw, was actually terrible.

now, let's look at Melo in that same time:

1-3 for 33%, 2-2 from the line for 4 points. (the one field goal was on a tip in on a broken play)

SO WHAT were you watching?

To recap:

Melo couldn't guard me. Much less Lebron.

Bosh continues to outplay Amare, but...stay with it baby! MVP!!! MVP!!! MVP!!!

 

No. IN H2H comparisons, W/L's mean NOTHING.

Dwyane Wade can't beat Dallas to save his life. (except for the finals) it doesn't mean that Jason Terry or Josh Howard, and now Caron Butler are better than him. He also has his worst games versus Milwaukee. I guess John Salmons owns his *** too.

and for being such a big "winner" Melo has been past the first round one more time than I HAVE. His playoff numbers are horrible, while Lebron outperforms his regular season numbers in the playoffs and actually has some playoff success, including what is considered the finest playoff series of all-time vs. the Pistons the year he made the finals.

Melo...has..a NC at Syracuse. Congrats to Syracuse I guess.

Lebron is a much bigger "winner" than Melo. Not up for debate either. Melo is Healthy Tracy McGrady.

as for "will beat him". More NY arrogance. Our organization is great, Yours is terrible. See how that works? One guy plays defense, the other doesn't. One guy shrinks in the playoffs, the other doesn't.

But yeah...that MELO PR department is top notch.

 

I have forgotten more basketball than you ever knew.

 

I guess I can rest my case now. You have THIS guy on your side.

I won. right?

 

BTW, here was my analysis of Bosh vs. Amare in April of last year. (just in case, anybody thought I changed my tune because he signed with Miami)

http://www.thephins.com/forums/show...2010-Thread.&p=1122222&viewfull=1#post1122222

 

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i agree with all of this.

All of it.

 

Where do you get this from?