Cyberpunk 2077

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I know that a number of have been interested in this game, but up until now the details have been almost zero. However, while there aren't many specifics, we're getting a little here and there from the developers now.

CDPR President recently had a few things to say about the game at a company conference:

https://www.dualshockers.com/cyberpunk-2077-detils/

Bullet points include:

-Cross generational potential, should the PS5 or future XBOX come out around time of release
-Character Creation system
-Multiple character classes
-Intense, story driven, single player RPG
-No microtransactions, no hidden payments of any kind
-Different from The Witcher, in that there is no predefined character, a futuristic world, and 3D movement

-Also, they aren't focusing on the Switch. PS4 and PC were specifics mentioned.

This is basically the only game I’m looking forward to..hope CDPR hit another homerun here.

"Zeke0123 wrote:

This is basically the only game I’m looking forward to..hope CDPR hot another homerun here.

Other than sports titles, its probably the only game I'm deeply interested in that's going to be released before 2020. TES6 and DA4 are both at some level of production, and I'm more interested in both, but who knows when they'll see the light of day. On the other hand, we're likely to get a lot about this one this year, starting with E3 in May.

CDPR did a magnificant job with TW3 in all ways. I'm very curious and hopeful about this one. However, its all still pretty mysterious. Until we see more of what its actually about and what the gameplay is like, I'm in an optimistic wait and see mode.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Other than sports titles, its probably the only game I'm deeply interested in that's going to be released before 2020. TES6 and DA4 are both at some level of production, and I'm more interested in both, but who knows when they'll see the light of day. On the other hand, we're likely to get a lot about this one this year, starting with E3 in May.

CDPR did a magnificant job with TW3 in all ways. I'm very curious and hopeful about this one. However, its all still pretty mysterious. Until we see more of what its actually about and what the gameplay is like, I'm in an optimistic wait and see mode.

I loved the PnP world...so if they can in any way bring it to life I will be thrilled. Should be a great opportunity to tell a story and get you hooked..I’m definitely optimistic for this one since CDPR haven’t let me down yet.

https://www.vg247.com/2018/03/28/cyberpunk-2077-factions-classes-roles-world-lore/

Some real news about the world of the game! The broad landscape and ideas, the people, and the character classes. It seems like you might be able to get a different story and starting point based on the class that you choose, which is both cool and great for multiple playthroughs.

The world of Cyberpunk 2077
The world of Cyberpunk is a retrofuturist, dystopian sci-fi nightmare where mankind has blended itself so seamlessly with technology that the line between meat and machine is no longer clear. Advances in cybernetics have enabled us to incorporate powerful computer processors directly into our brains, allowing us to upgrade our bodies with everything from rejection-proof artificial organs to enhanced optical replacements and full prosthetic limb replacements.

In this world of 2077, existence is broken and divided between those who have everything and those who have nothing. The United States of America is no more, balkanized and bankrupted by wars, orbital strikes, famine and rebellions. Into the vacuum of government rushed the mega-corporations, building walled enclaves of gleaming steel and concrete, guarded by elite security forces. Behind those walls live those lucky enough to work for the corporations. Outside those walls, chaos reigns.

Old Cities

In the old cities, the remains of local and state government struggle to hold at bay the forces of lawlessness; gangs of every stripe and flavor flourish, fighting constantly for control of territory.

The Dust

The heartland of America is now a dustbowl where vast, Nomad “families” travel from place to place in huge packs; RVs, campers, motorcycles, cars, vans – constantly moving, surviving any way they can.

Space

In space, the Orbitals, controlled by the Eurozone countries, keep their massdrivers pointed at the Earth, ready to unleash cheap destruction, pelting anyone who would challenge their economic sovereignty with rocks mined from the asteroid belt.

Through all of this, small groups of intrepid individuals – Edgerunners like you – weave in and out of the shadows, making deals, pulling jobs, and staying free.

Cyberpunk 2077 Factions

So, who’s who in this grim vision of the future?

Corporations

In the late 21st century, with the governments of the world increasingly weakened by conflict and wealth disparity, corporations have stepped into the breach to provide those with education, intelligence, and the means to live a safe and protected existence. Soldiers, either employed by the corporation or rented from another, patrol the streets and buildings of the enclaves and keep its citizens safe. Surveillance is everywhere; crimes are rare and ruthlessly punished. Corporate citizens believe themselves truly free – having sacrificed all liberty for the sake of security.

Nomads

Across the dustbowls and empty highways of middle America roam the vast Nomad packs. Families, clusters of different families, sometimes entire towns, left to dry up by climate change, corporate greed and neglect, have taken to roaming the country, looking for new places to call home. Most Nomad families maintain strict moral codes and obey the old laws of the land, though of course there are always some dark, twisted exceptions. Members of a Nomad pack can always call on family to defend them, though – loyalty within the Family is fierce and unquestioning. It is the only way they have survived.

Gangs

Like the rats with whom they share the dark parts of the cities, gangs are everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Traditional gangs who trade in drugs and guns are still common, but in this age of cheap, readily available cybernetic enhancements, a new and fearsome group – Boostergangs – have established a heavy presence in the disputed streets of the cities. Boosters are addicted to cybernetic enhancements, and exist only to find the next chrome upgrade – by whatever means necessary.

Cops

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Despite the fall of the federal government, some towns and cities still maintain a semblance of municipal integrity, and the concept of Law and Order is not forgotten, even amongst the chaos of 2077. The fight to take the streets back, block by block, from gangs, goes on every day, and takes a heavy toll on those who live and breathe to fight on behalf of justice for those too poor to live in enclaves and too weak to Run the Edge.

Edgerunners

Street Samurai. Soldiers of fortune. Mercenaries. Lone wolves. Whatever you want to call them, the Edgerunner exist in the margins. They take the jobs too risky for anyone else. They act as shadow agents for those who would not risk open war. They live for the money, owe nobody their loyalty, and live and die by their wits and skills.

That’s you.

Cyberpunk 2077 Edgerunner roles and classes

Nothing’s easy when you’re living on the Edge, but fortunately there’s a lot of room for different folks out here; lots of different skillsets make for a variety of ‘runners’.

Solos

Solos live behind the trigger of a rifle. Maybe you spent time as a merc overseas fighting in the jungles for Big Pharma, or walked a perimeter on a corporate enclave constantly beset by boostergangs. Maybe you just picked up a rifle one day and decided you weren’t going to take anyone’s shit anymore.

Either way, you’re the one they call when the shit really goes down. You’ve got an extra edge in combat, because you’ve survived this long. You know how to handle a rifle, a pistol, a SAW, a grenade launcher, a 50mm chain gun, and you can probably work out how to set off that tac-nuke if you have to. Just make sure you’ve got some stimpaks handy, or better yet, a Trauma Team card.

Techies

You’re the one who fixes stuff when it breaks. Or breaks into stuff that’s locked. Or locks stuff that needs to be guarded. Whatever the case, if it’s got an electronic circuit, requires tools or is just plan complicated, you’re the one for the job.

You might specialize in weapons, cybertech, or electronic security, but you can build, dismantle, fix and sabotage basically anything made by anyone. Your cousin, the MedTechie, can do everything you can, but just with a human body. Pfft. Human bodies.

Fixers

You know A Guy. Seriously. You probably know a lot of them. If it’s on the street, underground or anywhere it shouldn’t be, you can get your hands on it. Blackmail info on a local union head? No problem. Specs on the gang leader’s hideout? Give me a real challenge. A crate of top-of-the-line Arasaka M-66 automatic rifles in .223 caseless? Already got ‘em.

Cops

You. Are. The. Law. And what The Law says, goes. Maybe you’re a stiff-necked, by-the-book desk lieutenant. Maybe you’re a hardened, street-smart sergeant who knows when to look the other way for the greater good.

Either way, you wear the uniform, and carry the boomstick, and those gangers better run when they see you coming. Maybe you get real lucky and catch a promotion to the PsychoSquad – the ones they call when a boosterganger installs one too many implants and goes on a cyberpsychosis rampage. Those are fun.

Medias

In the Information Age, those who report the story control the story, and you’re determined to be the first on the scene to do so. You’ve got a satellite uplink clipped to your belt, wired into the camera in your head – no need for any clunky equipment or tech team.

Maybe you’re a hungry stringer making ends meet by selling your stories each night, determined to keep the truth sacred. Or maybe you’re a veteran field eye for Network 54, selling the truth as the corps see it to the deluded masses. Whatever the case, you’re the eyes and ears of the world out there on the Street.

Rockers

In these troubled times, you bet your ass that people are looking for someone to believe in, someone whose message of hope and rebellion against the faceless, greedy Corps gives people a reason to go on struggling every day.

You’re a warrior-poet, ready to put your life on the line to get the message out there, to keep the music alive, to make sure that people know that there are things worth fighting for.

Corps

Your suit is worth more than most peoples’ homes. You drive next year’s model before it hits the lots. Your implants are tasteful and discreet, and your plastic surgeon is the best that money can buy. But you’re always looking for that leg up, that advantage in the next deal, and you’re not shy about getting your hands dirty or hiring some outside muscle on the sly.

Netrunners

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The tech you’ve got in your head is beyond anything that most people can even fathom. Forget knowing programming languages, you’ve been breathing them all since you were five years old. With your neural connection and your cybermodem, you directly interface with the Net; real-time computer users might as well be frozen in place, you’re into the data fortress and back out again before they can even blink, and you left behind a crypto-bomb just to let them know they’ve been had. If it’s on a computer, you can get it, and nobody can stop you.

Running the edge is dangerous. Most who do don’t live to see 30. You learn not to make friends, because you’ll probably be pulling their bodies out of a smoking wreck. You stay frosty, stay hard. Above all, you stay free.

This game sounds really cool. Hopefully it lives up to it's hype!

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

https://www.vg247.com/2018/03/28/cyberpunk-2077-factions-classes-roles-world-lore/

Some real news about the world of the game! The broad landscape and ideas, the people, and the character classes. It seems like you might be able to get a different story and starting point based on the class that you choose, which is both cool and great for multiple playthroughs.

Great stuff there!..brings back some memories “Trauma Team Cards” haha those thing are ridiculously expensive I hope CDPR do them justice.

"danmarino wrote:

This game sounds really cool. Hopefully it lives up to it's hype!

I do too. CDPR did such a wonderful job with TW3, that I feel that they will. The gameplay and character models should be top notch. My only question will be how much I'm interested in the game's world, and it looks good so far. A bit dark, but that was expected. Doesn't seem quite as far in that direction as Fallout, which is good.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I do too. CDPR did such a wonderful job with TW3, that I feel that they will. The gameplay and character models should be top notch. My only question will be how much I'm interested in the game's world, and it looks good so far. A bit dark, but that was expected. Doesn't seem quite as far in that direction as Fallout, which is good.

I've never played The Witcher. It's on my list though.

"danmarino wrote:

I've never played The Witcher. It's on my list though.

I only played the third one, but it is quite possibly the greatest video game ever created. No hyperbole. The characters and story are better than most major Hollywood movies, and everything else about the game is deep and well crafted.

AND CDPR goes out of their way to fix all issues ASAP, and to be open and transparent with gamers the whole time. Its fantastic.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I do too. CDPR did such a wonderful job with TW3, that I feel that they will. The gameplay and character models should be top notch. My only question will be how much I'm interested in the game's world, and it looks good so far. A bit dark, but that was expected. Doesn't seem quite as far in that direction as Fallout, which is good.

It’s pretty different from fallout..no apocalypse so technology advances a LOT. Think more Blade Runner/Minority Report. With social decay being the theme vs actual decay.

Lot of news out there that the game will get a big reveal at E3 in a few weeks, and a major marketing push after that. Could be released early 2019.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I only played the third one, but it is quite possibly the greatest video game ever created. No hyperbole. The characters and story are better than most major Hollywood movies, and everything else about the game is deep and well crafted.

AND CDPR goes out of their way to fix all issues ASAP, and to be open and transparent with gamers the whole time. Its fantastic.

So they had a deal for The Witcher 3 and the two expansions this weekend so I bought it. I'm only about 1 hr into it, but if it keeps up this is definitely a must have game for anyone. I bought it, in part, due to your glowing review. Thanks!

Do you get lost in the story of 3 if you haven't played 1 and 2?

"Tone_E wrote:

Do you get lost in the story of 3 if you haven't played 1 and 2?

So far I have not. Again though, I've only put in about an hour

You can absolutely enjoy the game without playing the first two. I never have. You'll learn everything that you need to know as you go along. Doing a little bit of backstory reading online may be helpful, but isn't required.

My advice when digging into the game, without spoiling anything is to:

A) Make sure you get all of the patches and updates first. You almost certainly will, but just in case, this is important. After the initial release, they fixed and updated a bunch of things that make the game work better.

B) Take your time, and explore areas that you visit before moving on. You'll uncover a lot that would otherwise be hidden and not obvious.

C) There will be secondary quests along the way that you can choose not to do. I recommend doing as many as possible both because they're almost all well written and add to the depth and enjoyment of the game, and will teach you more about the characters. But also because doing quests at or above your own current level will give you the maximum XP. If you wait, the quest might disappear entirely, or you might be able to do it but won't get the experience benefit.

However, again don't rush to try to complete everything ASAP. Most of the time, you'll be able to choose to go back and do something if you move in another direction instead. There are a handful of major checkpoints that serve as crossroads in the game, and sometimes they'll effect what you can and cannot do, but most of the time this is pretty obvious and you'll notice warnings.

If you dig into all there is to see and do, the game is absolutely huge, and none of it is filler.

A-ha! A-hum... a-hem...

Welp.

Well, I'm glad I wasn't an early adopter! I'm going to wait until I have a PS5, and then see how the actual PS5 version of the game is working for other people after it comes out, and then we'll see. But what a crapshow!

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Well, I'm glad I wasn't an early adopter! I'm going to wait until I have a PS5, and then see how the actual PS5 version of the game is working for other people after it comes out, and then we'll see. But what a crapshow!

Roommate got me a copy for Xmas, but I will be waiting for next gen and fixes just like you.

"invid wrote:

Roommate got me a copy for Xmas, but I will be waiting for next gen and fixes just like you.

I think that best case, it ends up like No Man's Sky, where its basically a different game after a few years and tons of updates. CDPR was just too aggressive, and couldn't make their vision work on current available hardware.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/16/22234452/cyberpunk-2077-development-2016-pc-console-projekt-red

According to this article at The Verge, the development of the game was maybe even more messed up than FF15. Some highlites:

• Despite being announced way back in 2012, nearly everything that was done before 2016 was scrapped and they started completely over.

• The "demo" shown in 2018 was almost entire fake. Basically it was a short film, not a game.

• Until the development reboot in 2016, the game was in fact third person.

• Not suprisingly, it was effected by Covid-19, with the PC side and console side not working together.

There have been many people who have said that they should have just released the PC version of the game last year, and appologized that the console versions weren't ready yet. It would have upset people, but not as much as what actually happened.

https://www.psu.com/news/sony-says-you-shouldnt-play-cyberpunk-2077-on-ps4-instead-recommending-ps4-pro-and-ps5/

Sony is going to relist the game, but they recommend that you not play it on a standard PS4. From the sounds of it, it probably will still have trouble on the PS4 Pro as well. This should have been a next gen exclusive from the start.

Once there is a PS5 patch and I can grab a copy for $20 or less, I'll think about trying it. They should have ignored the base PS4 and Xbox One and focused on the PS4 Pro, Xbox One X, PC, and the next gen systems. I get they wanted to sell to the HUGE install bases of the base consoles, but I think they did more damage in the long run.

Its bizarrely ironic that after building up their reputation as one of the very best developers for taking care of their gamers with TW3 and being incredibly responsive while making a fantastic game, that they've basically nuked that all to hell with this one.

They got far, far too ambitious, and once they realized it, instead of pulling back and making the best game that they reasonably should have, they just said screw it, and put out the mess that they did.

And so now, who really knows what the company will truly be going forward.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Its bizarrely ironic that after building up their reputation as one of the very best developers for taking care of their gamers with TW3 and being incredibly responsive while making a fantastic game, that they've basically nuked that all to hell with this one.

They got far, far too ambitious, and once they realized it, instead of pulling back and making the best game that they reasonably should have, they just said screw it, and put out the mess that they did.

And so now, who really knows what the company will truly be going forward.

I think they'll be fine but this was definitely their Icarus moment and they were getting high off their own farts instead of properly managing their game. This is also a great example and case study of an amazing marketing campaign offset by a not so amazing product. Might be the biggest one we've seen in the gaming industry and that's saying something because we're seeing cases like that a lot more lately.