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Cowboys considering offering 1,2,3 to move up to 13 to draft E. Thomas

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by andres2882, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. andres2882

    andres2882 New Member

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  2. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Eh, the value isn't right, the #27, the a late 50's and a pick in the 80's is not great value.
     
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  3. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    throw in a second next year
     
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  4. finsnchips

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    I think you have to very strongly consider it.

    This is the type of deal that will only happen when a team is on the clock.
     
  5. DolfanCole

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    Moving up to #13 would not be high enough for them to get Thomas. :wink2:
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    That makes more sense, the #27, the #59 and their #2 next year.

    Basically we would have traded back 14 slots, and recouped the draft picks for Brandon Marhsall.

    Though I'd like to have their #90 this year, so bump it back to their #3 next year.

    the #27, the #59, the #90 and a pick in the 80's next year.
     
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  7. andres2882

    andres2882 New Member

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    That's what I was thinking...
     
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  8. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Yeah, they may have to make a call to Parcells before they call SF.

    I think it may be worth it though.
     
  9. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    This FO loves picks and we just gave away two. I see something like this happening if Thomas is there.
     
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  10. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Conisdering how much that would help us, I don't see how we could pass on that.
     
  11. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    On my draft chart those 3 picks are worth 1190. The 12th pick is worth 1200.
     
  12. ChrisKo

    ChrisKo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What week is this? Oh wait, draft week. So it's all Lies Lies Lies.
     
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  13. DolfanCole

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    Right now Dallas only has 6 picks. If they trade 3 of them to move up, that'll give them only 4 picks total. Can't see them doing that honestly.
     
  14. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    I didnt see them giving up a ****load of picks for Roy Williams either, but this is Jerruh we're talking about.
     
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  15. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    JJ probably thinks he only needs a few players to win a title.
     
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    yeah, they better reconsider their trade partner. Unless they all think we are going OLB.
     
  17. Bpk

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    In a draft this deep, I think those 2's and 3's are worth a bit more than usual.
     
  18. GoPhins!

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    Perhaps JJ is just putting this out there as amends for the drunken rant to drive up interest for our 12 pick for another team interested in Thomas?
     
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  19. DOLFANMIKE

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    Yes I'd do it. Then I'd draft the best OLB (Hughes if there) and Gerhart. The two third rounders could get us a FS or maybe deal both to move up in round 2 if someone special is there. Especially at FS.

    I might ask for Miles Austin and the 1 and 2 though and send them Smiley or Brown with the pick at 12.
     
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  20. Skeet84

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    I would do that deal in a ****ing heartbeat. we could get alot of people who could helpgus @ 25. We also pick up a 2 and 3 in a deep draft
     
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  21. DolfanCole

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    Good point. Strange things do happen. At least it's not a whole draft for Ricky Williams.
     
  22. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I don't know if that would be smart on their part because they have to know FS is one of the biggest needs the Dolphins have and there is probably a one in three chance they take him if hes there at #12. There is also a chance someone else takes him in the first eleven picks so they would pay a high price to get someone who is not there at 13th.
     
  23. DolfanCole

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    My guess is they wouldn't pull the trigger until the #13 pick is on the clock and Thomas is still on the board.
     
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  24. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    A third in a draft this deep is equivalent to a second in many other drafts. The talent level due to the amount of underclassmen in this draft is higher then I have ever seen. You do that draft every day and twice on sunday's

    Thats just greedy :lol:
     
  25. padre31

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    There is another way to look at this.

    Jerruh did employ Parcell's and Ireland for 4 or 5 years, he sat in draft rooms with them, he has a fairly good handle on how they do things, if he feels he has to trade up to #13 and not #12, it could very easily be because Jerruh doesn't believe we will draft Earl Thomas.

    Or he thinks we might, and is trying to knock down Ireland's asking price for the #12 by calling the bluff that we might take Earl Thomas.
     
  26. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    I like the idea of #27, #59, #90 and their third rounder in 2011. There will still be plenty of good players to choose from. I'd be willing to take less than full value for #12 if it means getting our hands on a second rounder.
     
  27. Miamifins854

    Miamifins854 Finkle is Einhorn

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    Don't forget that we have 6 picks in rounds 6 and 7. We will deal some of those picks to move up in rounds 3-5
     
  28. FinFan316

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    Exactly. Its the kind of move you make when you have a good nucleus of players. How many draft picks will make it on a talented team? 3? 4? You need to come out of the draft with at least 1 stud.

    I think this makes sense for both teams. Someone posted that according to the chart its almost exactly even (10 points one way or the other).

    I think we make the trade if its offered. I hope we do.
     
  29. MikeHoncho

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    For D'Marcus Ware and Miles Austin and their 1st and 2nd, I'd consider it.
     
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  30. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend Club Member

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    If they move to 13 may force Eagles to move up to 12.
     
  31. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I would definitely make that deal. We lose 15 spots but gain a 2nd and 3rd rounder. With a deep draft we would certainly get someone at 27 that could be an instant difference maker. Same with the 2nd and 3rd round pick.
     
  32. surferosa

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    Did anyone read the bottom of the linked article?

    UPDATE: Someone in the know pretty much shot down the rumor, responding with amusement when told about that and saying he didn't see the Cowboys making such a deal.
     
  33. cdz12250

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    I think it would take the Trifecta about a nanosecond to say yes to that deal if it really existed.
     
  34. SuperMarksBros.

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    Yes you do that. Move back and still get great value in the 1st, plus recoup some of what you gave up for Marshall in a deep draft. Hell yeah I'd do that.
     
  35. andres2882

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    Source did seem a bit lackluster. They mentioned it about an hour ago on NFL Network, though.
     
  36. PhinsRDbest

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    Jerry Jones trades to 13, Parcells trades 12 to Eagle's who select the player Jones traded up to get, classic burn.
     
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  37. Striking

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    I would love to move into that mid-20s range because if Clausen drops some team will be looking to get back into the 1st to snag him.
     
  38. TheMarshall

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    my good friend is a cowboy fan and all he talks about is them trading in the draft and cowboys drafting earl Thomas...i wish we draft him, o how sweet it would be to see his face on draft day after we draft him at 12
     
  39. Springveldt

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    :lol: Maybe Jerry will give us the keys to his new castle as well if we ask nicely.

    I'd bite their hand off if they offered those 3 picks for the #12.
     
  40. Springveldt

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    Since we only have 3 OLB's on the roster I think it's a reasonable conclusion to come to.
     

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