Commissioners Office VETOED Manny to FLA

106 replies

Boik14Boik14subscriberOP
Aug 15, 2008, 10:28 PM

Sources with knowledge of the talks say Florida had agreed to the three-way deal with Boston and Pittsburgh, with the caveat that Ramirez's two option years would go away and he would agree not to stick the Marlins by filing for salary arbitration. That way, as part of the deal, the Marlins would have received two draft picks next June as compensation for losing Ramirez via free agency. But before that deal could go to Manny for his approval (and sources say he would have vetoed it and only accepted a trade to the Dodgers at that point), the commissioner's office is said to have nixed it, telling the Marlins they had to get a player back, not two draft choices.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10932373/2

Finally Selig did something correct!!!! :bighug:

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Aug 15, 2008, 11:15 PM

"Boik14 wrote:

Sources with knowledge of the talks say Florida had agreed to the three-way deal with Boston and Pittsburgh, with the caveat that Ramirez's two option years would go away and he would agree not to stick the Marlins by filing for salary arbitration. That way, as part of the deal, the Marlins would have received two draft picks next June as compensation for losing Ramirez via free agency. But before that deal could go to Manny for his approval (and sources say he would have vetoed it and only accepted a trade to the Dodgers at that point), the commissioner's office is said to have nixed it, telling the Marlins they had to get a player back, not two draft choices.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10932373/2

Finally Selig did something correct!!!! :bighug:

Yep. :pointlol:

Final MCAT attempt 5/28
Results: ???
Goal: 38+, Latest practice tests: 37, 35, 39

Ray FinkleRay FinkleNew Member
Aug 15, 2008, 11:27 PM

"Boik14 wrote:

Sources with knowledge of the talks say Florida had agreed to the three-way deal with Boston and Pittsburgh, with the caveat that Ramirez's two option years would go away and he would agree not to stick the Marlins by filing for salary arbitration. That way, as part of the deal, the Marlins would have received two draft picks next June as compensation for losing Ramirez via free agency. But before that deal could go to Manny for his approval (and sources say he would have vetoed it and only accepted a trade to the Dodgers at that point), the commissioner's office is said to have nixed it, telling the Marlins they had to get a player back, not two draft choices.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10932373/2

Finally Selig did something correct!!!! :bighug:

If the bolded part is true then none of this matters anyway. Although there were reports saying Manny would have waived his no trade to go to FL, so who really knows.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 15, 2008, 11:44 PM

Boik, "doing something right" does not mean "does something to hurt the team competing with you for the division title." :pity:

Can't wait for Selig to retire. It'll be like Tagliabue leaving the job; no, better.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Aug 15, 2008, 11:51 PM

1986................been awhile muts fans no?

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Aug 15, 2008, 11:51 PM

"Desides wrote:

Boik, "doing something right" does not mean "does something to hurt the team competing with you for the division title." :pity:

Can't wait for Selig to retire. It'll be like Tagliabue leaving the job; no, better.

He means "doing something right" in that it helps the Dodgers. :wink2:

Final MCAT attempt 5/28
Results: ???
Goal: 38+, Latest practice tests: 37, 35, 39

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 15, 2008, 11:52 PM

"Regan21286 wrote:

He means "doing something right" in that it helps the Dodgers. :wink2:

Dodgers have Joe Torre and a relatively weak division this year. You have enough help.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Aug 15, 2008, 11:52 PM

"Desides wrote:

Dodgers have Joe Torre and a relatively weak division this year. You have enough help.

One can never have enough help.

Final MCAT attempt 5/28
Results: ???
Goal: 38+, Latest practice tests: 37, 35, 39

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 15, 2008, 11:54 PM

"Regan21286 wrote:

One can never have enough help.

Especially if the commissioner is giving you gifts underneath the table.

:pity:

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Aug 16, 2008, 12:06 AM

"Desides wrote:

Boik, "doing something right" does not mean "does something to hurt the team competing with you for the division title." :pity:

Can't wait for Selig to retire. It'll be like Tagliabue leaving the job; no, better.

I know that doing something right doesnt mean doing something to prevent your competition from winning. I was just messing with all the marlins fans on here :knucks:

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Aug 16, 2008, 12:12 AM

"Desides wrote:

Especially if the commissioner is giving you gifts underneath the table.

:pity:

You're jealous. :yes:

Final MCAT attempt 5/28
Results: ???
Goal: 38+, Latest practice tests: 37, 35, 39

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:16 AM

"Regan21286 wrote:

You're jealous. :yes:

I'm bitter that we could have made the playoffs and are now stuck with Jeremy K. Hermida... who will wind up leaving us in arbitration anyway.

Thanks for going to the trouble of bringing baseball to South Florida, then undermining it, Commissioner. Oh, and no thanks for your screwing around with the stadium deal, too.

Someone send this guy a crate of Viagra and the last five years' worth of Playboy back issues, please? That way we'll never hear from him again.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Aug 16, 2008, 12:17 AM

"Desides wrote:

I'm bitter that we could have made the playoffs and are now stuck with Jeremy K. Hermida... who will wind up leaving us in arbitration anyway.

Thanks for going to the trouble of bringing baseball to South Florida, then undermining it, Commissioner. Oh, and no thanks for your screwing around with the stadium deal, too.

Someone send this guy a crate of Viagra and the last five years' worth of Playboy back issues, please? That way we'll never hear from him again.

Bitter is an understatement. :lol:

Well, I'm happy. :up:

Final MCAT attempt 5/28
Results: ???
Goal: 38+, Latest practice tests: 37, 35, 39

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:20 AM

"Regan21286 wrote:

Bitter is an understatement. :lol:

Well, I'm happy. :up:

Oh, go bobble your head somewhere else! :tantrum: :lol:

I'm starting to think South Florida sports teams are cursed.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Aug 16, 2008, 12:21 AM

"Desides wrote:

Oh, go bobble your head somewhere else! :tantrum: :lol:

I'm starting to think South Florida sports teams are cursed.

:lol:

I hope one particular football team isn't. :up:

Final MCAT attempt 5/28
Results: ???
Goal: 38+, Latest practice tests: 37, 35, 39

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:22 AM

It seems to be the most cursed of all, unfortunately.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

FinSaneFinSaneforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:26 AM

"Desides wrote:

It seems to be the most cursed of all, unfortunately.

No that would be the Cardinals. But were up there.

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Aug 16, 2008, 12:29 AM

Deside,s what is your beef with Taglibue? I thought he was a great commisioner.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:38 AM

"Samphin wrote:

Deside,s what is your beef with Taglibue? I thought he was a great commisioner.

I think a lot of Goodell's time and energy has been spent cleaning up messes that originated under Tags (or that Tags did nothing about), particularly player conduct, rookie pay scales, and figuring out how to truly expand the league.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

FinSaneFinSaneforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:40 AM

"Desides wrote:

I think a lot of Goodell's time and energy has been spent cleaning up messes that originated under Tags (or that Tags did nothing about), particularly player conduct, rookie pay scales, and figuring out how to truly expand the league.

Yea, but Ill never forget how bad Goddell handled the Patsy's spygate.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:43 AM

"FinSane wrote:

Yea, but Ill never forget how bad Goddell handled the Patsy's spygate.

Goodell's a marketing guy. His instinct is to sweep anything under the rug that could harm the overall integrity of the league. I'm not saying Goodell is Best Commish Ever, but damn, the guy's spent virtually his entire term to date cleaning up the messes Tags left behind.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

FinSaneFinSaneforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:45 AM

"Desides wrote:

Goodell's a marketing guy. His instinct is to sweep anything under the rug that could harm the overall integrity of the league.


Of course, doesnt make it right.

I'm not saying Goodell is Best Commish Ever, but damn, the guy's spent virtually his entire term to date cleaning up the messes Tags left behind.

I question his methods, is all.

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Aug 16, 2008, 12:47 AM

"Desides wrote:

I'm bitter that we could have made the playoffs and are now stuck with Jeremy K. Hermida... who will wind up leaving us in arbitration anyway.

Thanks for going to the trouble of bringing baseball to South Florida, then undermining it, Commissioner. Oh, and no thanks for your screwing around with the stadium deal, too.

Someone send this guy a crate of Viagra and the last five years' worth of Playboy back issues, please? That way we'll never hear from him again.

He cant leave you in arbitration. All an arbitrator would do is determine whether his asking salary or the teams recommended salary is more in line with what he should get paid that year.

But eventually Hermida will leave like everyone else unless the team opens the wallet when the new stadium comes.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Aug 16, 2008, 12:49 AM

"Boik14 wrote:

But eventually Hermida will leave like everyone else unless the team opens the wallet when the new stadium comes.

Oh, not this again. Hanley's locked up for $70 million, and the topic of this thread is how the Marlins were on the verge of acquiring Manny Ramirez.

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

PMZQPMZQNew Member
Aug 16, 2008, 01:55 PM

"Desides wrote:

Thanks for going to the trouble of bringing baseball to South Florida, then undermining it, Commissioner. Oh, and no thanks for your screwing around with the stadium deal, too.

I'm glad someone else sees this as well. His treatment of South Fla has bordered on incompetence.

Taking away the All-Star Game, insisting on Loria as the owner, even though he knew this guy would be the poorest owner in baseball, and that Loria had ruined baseball in Montreal so badly, the franchise had to move.

But remember Selig is an Arizona guy......his team Milwaukee has always trained in AZ, and he has a huge home in AZ. He also had MLB loan the AZ team money to help build their stadium, but never has offered anything like that to the Marlins organization.

Sad :no:

Log in to reply.