Cole: Philbin on fringe of losing locker room, not viewed as a leader

Philbin should have went home on the Packers' plane to begin work on putting together an epic powerpoint for next week's Packers game... That's what he'll be doing next year around this time, might as well get a head start on it.

It's only a matter of time now.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

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2 weeks to prepare for a team that Philbin worked for for almost 10 yrs.

We should have smoked those guys

I know that Ross has no clue about the football side of things, but I'm glad he hired Marino so Marino could reiterate the things Dan Patrick said on the radio.

Ross probably sees the loss as oh we lost to an elite team but we hanged in there! Marino will inform him the cardinal sins that were made that caused the loss. Very bad deflating loss, I expect us to look flat next week against Chicago, and then after Jacksonville, if we lose to the Jaguars and give them their first win (wouldn't be the first time Philbin does that, look at Tampa Bay's game last year), I expect Philbin to be let go.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I know that Ross has no clue about the football side of things, but I'm glad he hired Marino so Marino could reiterate the things Dan Patrick said on the radio.

Ross probably sees the loss as oh we lost to an elite team but we hanged in there! Marino will inform him the cardinal sins that were made that caused the loss. Very bad deflating loss, I expect us to look flat next week against Chicago, and then after Jacksonville, if we lose to the Jaguars and give them their first win (wouldn't be the first time Philbin does that, look at Tampa Bay's game last year), I expect Philbin to be let go.

What was said on the DP show?

"SkapePhin wrote:

What was said on the DP show?

He said that if this happened in Week 16, that would be a fireable offense. And then went on to talk about everything Philbin did wrong yesterday. Glad this was on national radio, where a bunch of athletes including our own players listen to.

Dan Marino said that? Or Dan Patrick?

"SkapePhin wrote:

Dan Marino said that? Or Dan Patrick?

DP.

Cole's opinion on this matter is no different than the average fan, he has no inside information and is speculating that if they don't view him as a leader its just a matter of time before he loses the locker room. Well no **** Sherlock.

Dan Patrick.

"roy_miami wrote:

Cole's opinion on this matter is no different than the average fan, he has no inside information and is speculating that if they don't view him as a leader its just a matter of time before he loses the locker room. Well no **** Sherlock.

But he'll never lose you, right? :p

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"roy_miami wrote:

Cole's opinion on this matter is no different than the average fan, he has no inside information and is speculating that if they don't view him as a leader its just a matter of time before he loses the locker room. Well no **** Sherlock.

Except Cole said he's actually talked to players, who all say they like Philbin as a person, but do view him as a leader of men and question whether he is fit for the job.

Great news

"Muck wrote:

Except Cole said he's actually talked to players, who all say they like Philbin as a person, but do view him as a leader of men and question whether he is fit for the job.

Actually what he said is he thinks Philbin is a lieutenant and not a general and he feels like the players echo that sentiment, he never says any player actually said that. In other words, he's not saying anything at all and is just speculating.

Cole specifically said that he spoke to Miami Dolphins players about Joe Philbin.

I don't think that's hard to believe. David Canter does nothing but rip the coaching staff and he talks to Miami Dolphins players on a daily basis.

Pretty sure Coles right on...I mean...its not like we all would expect them to be rallying around Philbin. Hes proven ...hes not a good HC. Hes a good assistant. I just wish Ross would make a move now before the season gets out of hand. I think the team could rally around a change...I know the fans would. We arent gonna win anything with him here..so...make the change...see what happens.

i can take a few more losses if it means philbin is gone by week 10. it is infuriating watching him cost us game.

Can't fire him after a 3 point loss to an elite quarterback in the final 3 seconds, can you?

And a loss to the Bears probably puts a huge nail in our season's coffin. No way outta this mess but a miracle.

"heylookatme wrote:

Can't fire him after a 3 point loss to an elite quarterback in the final 3 seconds, can you?

Sure could. Sure would.

unfortunately, as much as we all loved watching the stomping of the raiders, a loss probably would have gotten Philbin fired.
I don't see any harm in firing Philbin now. the only relevant question is who do you promote? Coyle or Lazor?

"heylookatme wrote:

Can't fire him after a 3 point loss to an elite quarterback in the final 3 seconds, can you?

And a loss to the Bears probably puts a huge nail in our season's coffin. No way outta this mess but a miracle.

I'm willing to bet my whole bank account that the Bears win next week, but I don't want to end up homeless like Aqua4Ever

"heylookatme wrote:

Can't fire him after a 3 point loss to an elite quarterback in the final 3 seconds, can you?

And a loss to the Bears probably puts a huge nail in our season's coffin. No way outta this mess but a miracle.

I think a loss to the Bears effectively ends our season. The players would likely not have faith in the coaching staff anymore and everything would go on a downward spiral from there. We'd have to win 7 out of 10 games to even make it to 9-7 (which does not guarantee playoffs) against the likes of the Chargers, Broncos, Ravens and Lions, aside from our division games which are usually very tough anyway...

Joe Philbin can't lose a locker room he never really had in the first place.

The bigger deal is Kevin Coyle losing the defensive players. That's an actual loss. That's the unit on the team with the most pride and confidence, they're the unit that is really the reason we win games when we do win them, and they used to have a lot more faith in Coyle than they currently do.

Amazing that the Dolphins have the second most efficient pass-defense in the NFL, but there is contention between Coyle and the players. I am curious as to how much the problems are with Coyle, and not Philbin.