Chad Henne Post Game PC

how do you know he is not dying inside? People handle pain differently.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

how do you know he is not dying inside? People handle pain differently.

There's no doubt in my mind the guy is. Maybe, I didn't do a good job of getting my initial point thought process across--so I'm sorry.

I guess what I'm thinking here is--does that sound like a leader of the team? Does that sound like a guy that feels like his career hangs in the balance with every play? Because like you, I agree, I think he's dying inside. I was hoping for some, hey I've got to be better than what I played like today. Or the team gave me every opportunity and I didn't get it done, some type of feeling where he takes the blame here. Instead I feel like he just brushes it aside by saying, it's not life and death, interceptions happen, I'll just work to get better. At some point that gets irritating to hear if you're a teammate. I knew it would for me.

Man, I don't know. I just don't. I'm torn between a stoic confidence, and an impassionate leader. And, after watching #13 play for 17 years, it's really hard. 'Cause he wore his heart on his shirtsleeve. I mean, you knew where his head (and heart) was. No question. Honestly, this guy is hard to get a read on. I know I would like to see more fire in his belly on the field.

For me, the next few games (basically the rest of this season) will go a long way towards my evaluation on Henne. Right now, after today...I've lost some hope.

Well what do you expect.
Should he be crying?
Should he be mad at him self?

While I agree he doesn't sound like a leader here. But how could you feel like a leader after it was really your performance that really cost the game/season. I hope he stays our QB, I like him and honestly it's too late to give up and try and develop another.

he kind of has the look or sound of a guy who is making the same mistakes and doesnt really have an answer other than I'll try to fix it. I think he's just kind of shellshocked now. i would expect him to have a good game against the jets if they play man to man but they probably will switch to cover 2. cleveland plays alot of man and they switched today to alot of cover 2. i think he realizes that's his weakness but he doesnt have a solution this year for it

"adamprez2003 wrote:

he kind of has the look or sound of a guy who is making the same mistakes and doesnt really have an answer other than I'll try to fix it. I think he's just kind of shellshocked now. i would expect him to have a good game against the jets if they play man to man but they probably will switch to cover 2. cleveland plays alot of man and they switched today to alot of cover 2. i think he realizes that's his weakness but he doesnt have a solution this year for it

Then this week he needs to work his ass off preparing for both cases man or Cover 2.

This is no right way or wrong way, so this is meaningless. Everybody will act in a different manner.

A different perspective. I was at a Xmas party tonight with a room full of guys that were fans of several other NFL teams. they all agreed that Chad Henne is mediocre and will never be the QB we want him to be. On the one hand, we dolphins fans watch Chad and know enough to have a better idea of his potential. On the other hand, the room full of NFL -non-Miami fans doesn't have Homer glasses like us.

I still firmly believe that if you give Chad Henne a bonafide blue chip RB (not Ricky or Ronnie, they are good, but not blue chip - talking AP, CJ...) and a stud TE that he can be our winning QB. But, that holds true for quite a few QBs. On the flip side, I also firmly believe that with this coaching staff, Chad Henne will NEVER EVER live up to his potential. So, either get rid of Henne or fire the whole regime. Right now, I'm leaning towards the latter.

"Ohio Fanatic wrote:

A different perspective. I was at a Xmas party tonight with a room full of guys that were fans of several other NFL teams. they all agreed that Chad Henne is mediocre and will never be the QB we want him to be. On the one hand, we dolphins fans watch Chad and know enough to have a better idea of his potential. On the other hand, the room full of NFL -non-Miami fans doesn't have Homer glasses like us.

I still firmly believe that if you give Chad Henne a bonafide blue chip RB (not Ricky or Ronnie, they are good, but not blue chip - talking AP, CJ...) and a stud TE that he can be our winning QB. But, that holds true for quite a few QBs. On the flip side, I also firmly believe that with this coaching staff, Chad Henne will NEVER EVER live up to his potential. So, either get rid of Henne or fire the whole regime. Right now, I'm leaning towards the latter.

last year we concentrated almost exclusively on upgrading our defense and it has turned out well for us. 2011 I think we need to concentrate almost exclusively on offense and I think you'll see the unit catch up to the defense. A RB, Speed receiver, TE, OG who can run AND pass block and maybe a center who wont get blown up in the run game. Might have to add a OT prospect in that it seems that Carey is getting beat up and may start to decline. If we got a OT like Demarcus Love we could start him at OG or we could let Carey go

we dont have to get all of these positions in one offseason but we need to get at least half of them

He should have apologized to all of the Dolfans who wasted their money coming to see him kill off our playoff chances.

"padre31 wrote:

He should have apologized to all of the Dolfans who wasted their money coming to see him kill off our playoff chances.

If he needs to apologize to the fans, so does everyone else on offense that committed a drive killing penalty, missed a block, dropped a pass, etc......

Just saw it. Acts like a guy that doesn't have that fire in his belly. No anger, no emotion. Very disappointing video to see. He just shrugs it off. That is not Super Bowl winning leadership. Please dear God get us a new QB !

"DolfanJake wrote:

Just saw it. Acts like a guy that doesn't have that fire in his belly. No anger, no emotion. Very disappointing video to see. He just shrugs it off. That is not Super Bowl winning leadership. Please dear God get us a new QB !

Maybe he has no emotion because he's drained from having a terrible game, knowing it, and beating himself up about it on the inside.

I'm not going to go off how someone sounds after a game as evidence for or against their ability to lead a team.

If you want anger and emotion, we might be able to get Derek Anderson. I'm sure he has Super Bowl winning leadership based off his PC last week.

"Stitches wrote:

Maybe he has no emotion because he's drained from having a terrible game, knowing it, and beating himself up about it on the inside.

I'm not going to go off how someone sounds after a game as evidence for or against their ability to lead a team.

If you want anger and emotion, we might be able to get Derek Anderson. I'm sure he has Super Bowl winning leadership based off his PC last week.

That's why I mentioned the initial thoughts in the post. It's tough to gauge right after. I guess I'm just tired of the same, I'll look at the film and get better. I don't question that guys guts. He's playing on a bum knee and worked his tail off to get back, but I just wonder that with the horrible Thigpen game and Pennington out, if he doesn't really have any fear of losing his job--because he certainly doesn't seem like a guy that is.

You did make a great point about Anderson though. I'd rather him be stone-faced than Derek Anderson-esque.

"rdhstlr23 wrote:

Anyone else not get a good feeling from the guy?

I usually don't take much stock into these things because guys are so frustrated or emotionally exhausted because of the amount of effort and emotion the game requires. But, hell, he just seems to laissez faire to me. I understand it's not life and death. You have a beautiful wife and family that are much more important. I just get the feeling like this guy is trying to push this confidence thing on the media and it isn't there. Instead he's coming off like, he knows the Dolphins have nothing else and that he is what he is.

What do you all think? The players say he's a good leader though, so I certainly take their lead more than what I think from a post game presser, but my gosh...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010120501/2010/REG13/browns@dolphins#tab:watch

As an NFL QB Henne is garbage, its not like we paid him a ton of cash and spent an expensive draft pick ala Jamarcus Russell, its time to cut him loose he's a mediocre at best QB and we really need a good to great QB. As I've said before, this regime will not admit their mistakes (of which there have been too many to name), so not only should Henne and Henning go, but Morono and Ireland should get the axe as well....My guess all of these guys are back next year, assuming there is a season, and we finish 7-9 as usual.....Damn its painful to be a phins fan.

"rdhstlr23 wrote:

That's why I mentioned the initial thoughts in the post. It's tough to gauge right after. I guess I'm just tired of the same, I'll look at the film and get better. I don't question that guys guts. He's playing on a bum knee and worked his tail off to get back, but I just wonder that with the horrible Thigpen game and Pennington out, if he doesn't really have any fear of losing his job--because he certainly doesn't seem like a guy that is.

You did make a great point about Anderson though. I'd rather him be stone-faced than Derek Anderson-esque.

What else do you want him to say though? Everyone (the fans, the media, Henne, and his teammates) knows he **** the bed. What he says won't change the performance he had, or make it any easier to stomach. He let everyone down, and I guarantee he hates himself for it.

"Pbateman wrote:

As an NFL QB Henne is garbage, its not like we paid him a ton of cash and spent an expensive draft pick ala Jamarcus Russell, its time to cut him loose he's a mediocre at best QB and we really need a good to great QB. As I've said before, this regime will not admit their mistakes (of which there have been too many to name), so not only should Henne and Henning go, but Morono and Ireland should get the axe as well....My guess all of these guys are back next year, assuming there is a season, and we finish 7-9 as usual.....Damn its painful to be a phins fan.

Henne should not be cut. At worst he's a #2, which we'd still need next year (we need a #3 as well).

And this regime doesn't admit their mistakes? How about cutting Wilford, Wilson, Grove, White, Turner, and Murphy all after a year or less? Guess that doesn't count though.

"gilv13 wrote:

If he needs to apologize to the fans, so does everyone else on offense that committed a drive killing penalty, missed a block, dropped a pass, etc......

Fine with me, he was up to the mic first though..

"Stitches wrote:

Henne should not be cut. At worst he's a #2, which we'd still need next year (we need a #3 as well).

And this regime doesn't admit their mistakes? How about cutting Wilford, Wilson, Grove, White, Turner, and Murphy all after a year or less? Guess that doesn't count though.

No actually it doesn't...Henning is a MISTAKE, Henne is a MISTAKE, wasting a draft pick, an EARLY 2nd rounder, on White was a MISTAKE (granted they cut him), starting Jason Allen was a MISTAKE, our ST coach was a MISTAKE, the fact that Parcells considers his time here a success is a MISTAKE...Seriously, after this season's performance the only thing we should be happy with is Cameron Wake's play, literally that is the only good thing this team did all year...and that would be hysterical if I wasn't a Phins fan.

"Pbateman wrote:

No actually it doesn't...Henning is a MISTAKE, Henne is a MISTAKE, wasting a draft pick, an EARLY 2nd rounder, on White was a MISTAKE (granted they cut him), starting Jason Allen was a MISTAKE, our ST coach was a MISTAKE, the fact that Parcells considers his time here a success is a MISTAKE...Seriously, after this season's performance the only thing we should be happy with is Cameron Wake's play, literally that is the only good thing this team did all year...and that would be hysterical if I wasn't a Phins fan.

But its ok, Morono will be back next year with Henne, both in their last contract year, and we'll finish 6-10 or 7-9 again. Then hopefully, we'll get a regime in here that can make us a contender, well I'm dreaming but sometimes dreams come true or at least that's what I was told as a kid.

"Pbateman wrote:

No actually it doesn't...Henning is a MISTAKE, Henne is a MISTAKE, wasting a draft pick, an EARLY 2nd rounder, on White was a MISTAKE (granted they cut him), starting Jason Allen was a MISTAKE, our ST coach was a MISTAKE, the fact that Parcells considers his time here a success is a MISTAKE...Seriously, after this season's performance the only thing we should be happy with is Cameron Wake's play, literally that is the only good thing this team did all year...and that would be hysterical if I wasn't a Phins fan.

:lol:

Not everyone is the Derek Anderson type in the post-games. Just sayin'

"Pandarilla wrote:

:lol:

:lol: Classic.

:mellow:Oh geez it pains to laugh right now. :jump:

Watching the PC I can understand the perspective, but looked to me like he already switched to auto pilot, and was just idling in robo mode.

He'll probably repeat the same outgoing statement every hour through the night.

"Pbateman wrote:

But its ok, Morono will be back next year with Henne, both in their last contract year, and we'll finish 6-10 or 7-9 again. Then hopefully, we'll get a regime in here that can make us a contender, well I'm dreaming but sometimes dreams come true or at least that's what I was told as a kid.

You just quoted yourself?