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Cameron Wake fans will love this

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Mr_Kennedy, Feb 16, 2010.

  1. Mr_Kennedy

    Mr_Kennedy New Member

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  2. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I'm not certain what is more impressive, Wake's performance or the fact you managed to post that chart and it actually looks like a chart!

    Bravo Sir, Bravo!
     
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  3. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    He added alot of heat when he got in there however is that because he was fresh?
     
  4. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Moderator Staff Member Club Member

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    It appears Wake should probably be 2nd on that list. Antwan Odom didn't play a full season and he had 5 sacks in week 2 vs. the Packers going mostly against Darryn Colledge - the Packers starting LG who was forced into play LT when Chad Clifton got injured. Odom got hurt a few weeks later on, but he clearly isn't an elite pass-rusher.
     
  5. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thats what I was going to say. You put a fresh pass rusher in, against a OL that's played all day, he's bound to have success.

    Im not trying to take away anything from Wake, he's got alot of talent. But I'm sure coming into the game fresh, and at 100% and goin up against guys who have been battling all game has a bit to do with this.

    Only one way to find out really, give him more playing time. We all know that is probably going to happen with Porter destined to be released.
     
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  6. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Reload

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    You can rotate fresh players to be aggressive when you have TEAM players that don't whine and cry me me me.
     
  7. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    wake + nolan = winnnnnnnnn
     
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  8. Mr_Kennedy

    Mr_Kennedy New Member

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    5 sacks in one game
    2 sacks against All Pro LT Ryan Clady
    1 sack against All Pro LT Joe Thomas

    I'd say Odom was pretty elite in 2009.
     
  9. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    That's what I was going to say.

    Only thing is that you would think more time = more fatigue for most guys. But if anyone is in crazy enough shape to defy that theory, it's Wake.
     
  10. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    Wake played.....167 snaps with 5.5 sacks
    Timmons played 817 snaps with 7 sacks

    I may be insane but wouldn't Wake's numbers be more
    efficient

    Wake had a sack every 30.36 plays
    Timmons a sack every 116.71 plays
    Odom had a sack every 36.12 plays

    To me Wake had the best sack % against plays run
    and should be #1
     
  11. MaddMatt

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    http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_...pe=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=0&numgames=1

    Here's a little something to add to your point. Wake graded out as the #3 pass rusher in the NFL. Few were even close.

    Look at the QB hits and pressures, aside from sacks. He did half as much in less than a third of the snaps.

    As far as being fresh, he played ST's. Also, I've seen his pic, and would NEVER question his conditioning. LOL
     
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  12. sergiomiguel2

    sergiomiguel2 New Member

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    Now im all for Wake, and really like what he brings to the table
    but can he be a 3-4 OLB? he had his hand on the ground most of the time he rushed, and he is not big enough to be a DE
    I think he can serve as that 4th d-lineman type in Nolans defense, who most of the time gets his hand on the ground and just blitzes, but that exposes what we dont have, a cover LB, we need one ASAP

    another thing is he needs to show he can play a full game before I'm completely sold, cause he usually came in well rested against ppl who had played the whole game, and his running defense is a big question mark, how does he shed defenders on the run, how does his pad level react to the lateral movement?
    He is still a project, but I do have a lot of upside for him
     
  13. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    NO POPCORN MUSCLES ON THIS GUY:hi5:
     
  14. MaddMatt

    MaddMatt New Member

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    :yes: Agreed, and how many other DE's had to sprint down on kicks? None, and it does take a lot out of you, especially in Miami.

    Anyone have Wake's pic? I can't find it.
     
  15. sergiomiguel2

    sergiomiguel2 New Member

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    Idk about that, you have starters that sprint down kicks all the time
    Wake wasn't a starter, he would have 15-20 plays all game
    so that doesnt sell me on how he will handle starter duty
    and he is not a DE, hes a LB so there are about 3 other LBs on the special teams, and 1 started for us
     
  16. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    Great post/thread, and darn fine graph! Wake will get a LOT more snaps with Porter gone and playing under Nolan, well it just makes me all tigly inside to think what Nolan can do with talent like Wake's got. Look at what he did with Dumerville, and you get my point.
     
  17. MaddMatt

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    JT was not big enough to be a DE either. He did manage. LOL

    Nolan made Dumerville a star. He is smaller, slower, and less athletic than Wake.
     
  18. sergiomiguel2

    sergiomiguel2 New Member

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    Well but I never said anything about his size...
     
  19. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    [​IMG]

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  20. MaddMatt

    MaddMatt New Member

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    Thanks, #91 was the one I was looking for. Anyone want to question his conditioning, face to face? LOL
     
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    MaddMatt New Member

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    Sorry but, you did post that he was not big enough for DE.
     
  22. sergiomiguel2

    sergiomiguel2 New Member

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    I mean I'm just saying I got a lot of hope for him
    but he has not proved as much as EVERYONE says, including ESPN
    he needs to show he can bring it every play as a starter and defend against the run, just cause he can blitz doesnt mean its a one sided game
    and believe it or not, a lot of NFL players look like that...some do it with roids, but still haha
     
  23. MaddMatt

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    It's not the body, it's the face that I was talkin about. :mad:
     
  24. sergiomiguel2

    sergiomiguel2 New Member

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    oh haha

    and about me saying hes not big enough for a DE...well for a 4-3 he can be...just like u said about Jason Taylor

    but as a 3-4 End??? no way!!!!

    so I see him as that 3-4 OLB in Nolans system that kinda lines up like a 4-3 end who usually blitzes
     
  25. MaddMatt

    MaddMatt New Member

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    OK, now we are on the same page. Wake has A LOT to learn vs the run, and in coverage, to be a starting OLB.

    However, in Nolan's system, he has much more talent than Dumerville, and could have 15 or more sacks. We shall see.
     
  26. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I have said it from the beginning,
    when the guy was nothing more than
    a blip on the radar in SouthFlorida:
    Wake is the RealDeal & next NFL SackMonster
     
  27. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    Cameron Wake fans will REALLY like this:

    Edit: Resizing...
     
  28. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    Finally, here... I met him. At a gun store no less....

    [​IMG]
     
  29. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    I know by looking at both of you that ONE of you
    needs a gun while the other doesn't

    Just joking with you...GREAT PHOTO
    :knucks:
     
  30. alen1

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    What's Jason Campbell doing in Plantation? You know, we do need a franchise quarterback but would this be considered tampering? :shifty:
     
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  31. Mr_Kennedy

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    Timmons didn't rush the QB all 817 snaps. The graph just shows the efficiency of a player to get to the QB on pass-rush attempts only.
     
  32. finz810

    finz810 Season Ticket Holder

    He's gonna beast next yr. and the best is since we couldnt get rid of porter(hopefully we will) he has to sit on the bench and watch the yung'n ballout.

    karmas a ***** when ya act like a damn fool Joey!!!
     
  33. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    This may be off the wall but I would really like to see if Wake could play some ILB for us. We could rreally use some explosiveness from that position and I think he could do it. Whether or not he could play the run on third down or drop in coverage is a big ? but I have faith inn that Penn St education.

    We don't need a DE any way so it don't matter if Wake is the right size.
    Try him at ILB, he can't be that much worse than Akhy breaky tackley
     
  34. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    the guy is a physical freak of nature, all about football & a total beast. he could play anywhere
     
  35. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I just forwarded this to Joey Porter.
     

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