Cameron Hears Call of the Mild, Again

HMMM, I agree. It seems like we came out in the, "scared to let my rookie QB do anything" mode and quickly switched to the, "I'm going to let my rookie QB do everything" mode. We played in mode 1 for 2 weeks and swicthed to mode 2 this week. I wonder what a balanced gameplan might render?

Cameron sucks butt. This isn't an 0-12 team, this is an 0-12 coach. We're bad, but not
0-12 bad. All those games we lost by 3 or less, I hold Cameron responsible. And now the fact that he appears to be tanking the season on purpose with his ridiculous play calling, I don't even want to give him another year. Hopefully somebody proven is on the market in the offseason that we can't pass up.

Please no cursing.

"Kudda wrote:

Cameron sucks butt. This isn't an 0-12 team, this is an 0-12 coach. We're bad, but not
0-12 bad. All those games we lost by 3 or less, I hold Cameron responsible. And now the fact that he appears to be tanking the season on purpose with his ridiculous play calling, I don't even want to give him another year. Hopefully somebody proven is on the market in the offseason that we can't pass up.

Wait a minute hoss, could be that the players are blaming Cam for their lack of play making ability in an effort to shunt blame away from their own pitiful efforts.

Cam shows no emotion at all. He doesn't seem to inspire or lead at all just stands on the sideline looking lost. I have been amazed at many horrible calls he has made. I see him often not even look at players coming off field much less try to light a spark.

Having said that, Cam is not the one that dropped so many good passes right in their hands past few games. Cam is not the one that blew tackles or coverage. Crowder gave up a big play today he could have stopped or at least slowed but didn't give the extra effort or even try. Cam did not fold like a lawn chair at the line allowing his rookie QB to be mangled and RB's to be hit in backfield repeatedly.

I am not sure on Cam in that I don't know what is happening in practice that influences his decisions. Maybe there are many dropped passes in practice so the lack of down field throws or maybe he is an idiot. However he is not the only problem. This team is weak in several places due to revolving door coaching and poor draft choices. There is a lot of blame for many involved but I think the owner should get most of it for very poor personnel choices.

Cam inherited a massive mess including many key injuries. He has a deep draft (lots of picks) coming up in which he can address this mess. Ginn and Beck show potential but need a team around them to know for sure if the potential is real or imagined. At the beginning of the season many experts said the Phins would need 3 years to get back in shape. It takes time to build nearly from scratch.

Part of me wants Cam and Huzi's head on a plate but part feels give it the time it needs to get back to a "full team".

Yes Beck did some things wrong today but he also did some right and got little to no help from his team.

I have been trying to remain optimistic towards Cam but he gives mr very little to optimistic about. Poor performances on the field is not soley due to a lack of talent on this team it is also an indication of poor conditioning and a lack of motivation. Cam appears to me to be over whelmed by his new job and is not rising to the occassion. To consistently not win games like we have is inexcusable and rookie head coach or not at the very least he should be capable of winning a minium of 3 games with this roster. I think it is time to accept the fact that Cam is a failure and as painful of a prospect as this is Miami needs to start shopping for a new head coach yet again because we are not going to suceed under this kind of tutilage. I have been saying to give him one more season before calling for his head but my oppion has now shifted to removing him asap. His lack of leadership has sunk our season and our teams and fan bases morale Wayne has failed us yet again but dont fret too much Im sure he will not fail us in raising our season tickets yet again next season. He seems to consistently suceed in that dept.

I formally appologize to all of you whom I argued with to give Cam more time you all were ahead of the curve and I was late to identify his inadequices.

This is the very sadest time I can remember being a fan in the last 30 years that I have rooted for this team. We need a miracle to fix this mess because we are never going to suceed with wayne and company running this organazation. He is too greedy to sell and we are too loyal to abandon and our future looks bleak.

"Kudda wrote:

Cameron sucks butt. This isn't an 0-12 team, this is an 0-12 coach. We're bad, but not
0-12 bad. All those games we lost by 3 or less, I hold Cameron responsible. And now the fact that he appears to be tanking the season on purpose with his ridiculous play calling, I don't even want to give him another year. Hopefully somebody proven is on the market in the offseason that we can't pass up.

This team has been a bad team for 5 years (even when we somehow milked out 9 lucky wins two years ago) and now we're finding out just how far we've fallen. I'm sure Cam's ineptness isn't doing us any favors, but at the same time I can't point to anything or anyone on the roster that gives me a reason to say we aren't anything but an awful team.

"padre31 wrote:

Wait a minute hoss, could be that the players are blaming Cam for their lack of play making ability in an effort to shunt blame away from their own pitiful efforts.

ya know I don't really know. What I do know is that I haven't seen Cameron put these players on offense in a position to make big plays. It must make Beck feel really good knowing his coach doesn't believe in his ability to throw down field.

It's hard for me to blame players when they are seldom given the opportunity.

I'm not one to jump all over a coach but yesterday looked like complete chaos. And not even organized chaos. What has happened to our Dolphins? How could they fall so far so fast? Wow that was bad! Geez that was horrible! Totally uninspired and clueless. Clue-less. They were totally unprepaired and who's fault is that? Those in attendance should demand their money back. How much can be blamed on previous regimes? I don't know. I like that Cam is as calm as he is and not the total nut job that Saban was but he has to find a way to light a fire under these guys. And where did the stinkin' Jets get those awful uniforms? Those are almost as bad as those grotesque things that Philly wore earlier this year. The Dolphins are done. They may as well pack up their stuff and make their tee times. 0-16 here we come. We'll see what happens in April.

"corran105 wrote:

This team has been a bad team for 5 years (even when we somehow milked out 9 lucky wins two years ago) and now we're finding out just how far we've fallen. I'm sure Cam's ineptness isn't doing us any favors, but at the same time I can't point to anything or anyone on the roster that gives me a reason to say we aren't anything but an awful team.

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

The New Orleans Saints has been a bad team for the past 20 something years untill last season.

The Detroit Lions has been a bad team in their entire history. AND THEY HAVE MATT MILLEN RUNNING THE TEAM!

They are managing to win suddenly!

We have the talent to have a good team, we just don't have the right coach to bring us some victories.

Some of you don't want to hear this, and I don't want to say it either, BUT, if Saban was here, we would have won atleast a minimum of 4 games by now.

It's written all over his face that Cam is way out of his league coaching a NFL team. Just look at his face on the sidelines, in the press conferences, etc. He looks like a little kid who's lost his mom at the grocery story. His inept play calling has stalled more of our drives than anything else. He was brought in to be the offensive mastermind yet makes decisions that leave high school coaches scratching their heads. Hell, the stadium stood up and cheered as Beck through a 55yd. INCOMPLETION! If that doesn't tell you something about your playcalling, I have no idea what would. And that's not even his biggest problem, see "clock management". How do we expect our rookie QB to learn these fundamental things when our HC is still trying to figure them out himself? I understand Cam is a rookie HC, but do we really want a rookie HC coming in to rebuild our team? How can he teach if he's still learning himself?

One win saves Cam's job. Just one. It's all he needs and he'll be here next year, no doubt about it. Now in no way am I rooting for a 0-16 season, but it's getting to the point where if that's what it takes to get Cam out of Miami, then so be it. I'm only slightly a fan of Wayne H. but even I know he's a business man. He'd have no problem writing out a blank check, handing it to Cowher or Marty and saying "Here. Fill it out. See you at Spring Training."

So Cam, you've lost the respect of your veterans. Your draft picks (your hand picked players) are even questioning your play calling. You haven't won a single game. What makes you qualified to be our HC? :confused2:

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

The New Orleans Saints has been a bad team for the past 20 something years untill last season.

The Detroit Lions has been a bad team in their entire history. AND THEY HAVE MATT MILLEN RUNNING THE TEAM!

They are managing to win suddenly!

Have you been paying attention this season? The Lions and Saints are bad. Still. The Lions won six games in the first half of the year by playing bad teams and having the highest turnover differential in the NFL. The Saints were right down there with us in terms of not having any wins until, what, week six? As it stands, they're 5-6, two games back from the division lead, and only have a shot at the wild card if Detroit continues to falter and if another team doesn't sneak up from behind. (I'm picking Arizona to snatch the 6th seed.)

It's more accurate to say that the teams found ways to win a few games, but not enough games to matter.

"Desides wrote:

Have you been paying attention this season? The Lions and Saints are bad. Still. The Lions won six games in the first half of the year by playing bad teams and having the highest turnover differential in the NFL. The Saints were right down there with us in terms of not having any wins until, what, week six? As it stands, they're 5-6, two games back from the division lead, and only have a shot at the wild card if Detroit continues to falter and if another team doesn't sneak up from behind. (I'm picking Arizona to snatch the 6th seed.)

It's more accurate to say that the teams found ways to win a few games, but not enough games to matter.

While I agree with most of what you are saying, when you're 0-12, 5 wins looks mighty good and does a world of good for team morale. May not be big in the grand scheme of things but for the season, the team and the fan base... 5 wins is a major thing.

"AggieFin21 wrote:

While I agree with most of what you are saying, when you're 0-12, 5 wins looks mighty good and does a world of good for team morale. May not be big in the grand scheme of things but for the season, the team and the fan base... 5 wins is a major thing.

I agree, there's a difference between 0 wins and 5 wins. I wasn't contesting that. I'm contesting the idea that the Saints and Lions are more than just a flash in the pan. What are they doing this year? Not much. The NFC South is the second-worst division in the NFL and the Saints are two games back. So much for that NFC Championship Game appearance.

"Desides wrote:

Have you been paying attention this season? The Lions and Saints are bad. Still. The Lions won six games in the first half of the year by playing bad teams and having the highest turnover differential in the NFL. The Saints were right down there with us in terms of not having any wins until, what, week six? As it stands, they're 5-6, two games back from the division lead, and only have a shot at the wild card if Detroit continues to falter and if another team doesn't sneak up from behind. (I'm picking Arizona to snatch the 6th seed.)

It's more accurate to say that the teams found ways to win a few games, but not enough games to matter.

They are having success nonetheless. I rather have a flash on the pan than a team filled with players just collecting pay checks. They atleast have something to build on, and are much closer to being successful than we are.

If they're bad then what the hell are we? Do we even belong in this league?

"Vertical Limit wrote:

They are having success nonetheless. I rather have a flash on the pan than a team filled with players just collecting pay checks. They atleast have something to build on, and are much closer to being successful than we are.

A flash in the pan by definition is nothing to build on. It's questionable whether either team is truly building towards anything.

5-7 > 0-12

"Vertical Limit wrote:

5-7 > 0-12

5-7 is STILL worthless. I'm tired of people who want to win a couple of games just for the sake of winning a couple of games. 2005 and 2006 was the story of this team screwing up its draft position for the sake of a handful of wins and no playoffs. We could have taken Haloti Ngata in the 2006 draft if we had gone 8-8 instead of 9-7 in 2005.

cam needs an oc next season, period. it was an act of pure hubris on his part to believe that he could call all the plays while being a rookie hc at this level.

but if he realizes this and hires an oc, the team will be fine.

"NaboCane wrote:

cam needs an oc next season, period. it was an act of pure hubris on his part to believe that he could call all the plays while being a rookie hc at this level.

but if he realizes this and hires an oc, the team will be fine.

Or the only logical thing to do after no one wanted the OC job...

Nobody wanted the OC job because it was an empty title. He was going to call the plays regardless; he stated such at his introductory press conference.

"RollieGotFingered wrote:

Nobody wanted the OC job because it was an empty title. He was going to call the plays regardless; he stated such at his introductory press conference.

like i said: hubris.

Everyone who wants Cams head needs to stop and think. At some point we need to stop the roller coaster ride of changing coaches and le the same schemes be in play for successive years; not just one or two.

This team needed rebuilt when Saban took over, he didn't have the guts to accept the losses to go with that, Cam does. Let give Cam the chance to turn it around.

Right now on offense we don't have the power back this offense calls for, good tight ends, and backs that can block in the back field. And as the last two games have shown until we get the complete package to pass block (TEs, RBs, and receivers that catch the ball) our offense is not going anywhere. Keep in mind we don't have the running game now to take pressure off the passing game.

Before Jim Bates left he stated the need was not offensive players, it was YOUNG defensive players. Most people laughed at him. It looks like he was right.

"Desides wrote:

Or the only logical thing to do after no one wanted the OC job...

Or he could of promoted someone within and hired another coach to take over for the promoted coach. Cam made a big mistake and now its biting us in the ass due to it.

"calfinfan wrote:

Before Jim Bates left he stated the need was not offensive players, it was YOUNG defensive players. Most people laughed at him. It looks like he was right.

maybe we should contact Bates and ask him to be our DC again or Muschamp(sp).