Cam Newton to be Releases: Change of Plans for Miami?
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Deus ex dolphinforum_veteranOPBeing reported by ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Panthers are expected to outright cut their former MVP today. At 31 years old, Cam should have an easy 4-5 quality years left. Injuries in recent years are a concern, but he's had most of a year to rest and heal up.
Imagine taking the BPA at #5? Or trading down to get even more picks for 2020 and 2021? Miami could have a good team to put around Cam with a solid draft. You could still grab Tua or Herbert at #5 as insurance in case Cam does not work out. The best of both worlds.
I think the idea of signing Cam is worth looking into, assuming he does not want 30+ million dollars per year. He won't cost any draft picks, so that is another plus.
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
I would think the Panthers have a better idea of what is left in his tank than anyone.
If they arent interested in him, IMO there is a legitimate reason.
That said, teams do make mistakes.
I'm against it.
Our future lies in the draft and if that's the case there's no reason to waste more money on a bridge QB. Roll with Fitz. Besides, except for one year Newton was never really impressive so it's not like we'd be getting someone that could transform this team's playoff chances.
Deus ex dolphinforum_veteranI would expect Cam to land with the Chargers. A face for the team in LA and that seems like a place Cam would enjoy anyway. That also takes them out of the QB draft talk (probably, depends on the money) which would be nice for Miami.
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
TheHighExhaultedforum_veteranAhh the offseason...where every player that gets released the Dolphins should pick them up.
Miami has a veteran quarterback already signed to the roster who will be starting Week 1 until Rosen or a high rookie draft pick is ready to go.
texanphinaticforum_veteranNot interested. Dude looked finished - we need to invest in youth, not aging vets who can't overcome injury problems.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteranAt this point in his career I don't think he is worth $10 million or more than Ryan Fitzpatrick. I do not trust him to stay healthy and would rather try for the rookie quarterback so Miami could do something like sign whoever the Clowney is next year.
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firedanforum_veteranI don't trust him to jump on a fumbled ball in a big game.
Cashvillesentforum_veteran"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:
I would think the Panthers have a better idea of what is left in his tank than anyone.
If they arent interested in him, IMO there is a legitimate reason.
That said, teams do make mistakes.
Well their backup QB didnt look as bad last year either, wich is probably an easier decision for them to move on.
ExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteranHe's extremely overrated! Always has been. Let him go somewhere else! Maybe the Jaguars will take him.
Deus ex dolphinforum_veteran"texanphinatic wrote:
Not interested. Dude looked finished - we need to invest in youth, rookies who can't overcome injury problems.
Hmm. :chuckle:
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
Phin McCoolforum_veteran"Deus ex dolphin wrote:
Not interested. Dude looked finished - we need to invest in youth, rookies who can't overcome injury problems.
Hmm. :chuckle:
Haters gonna hate... :001_rolleyes:
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texanphinaticforum_veteran"Deus ex dolphin wrote:
Hmm. :chuckle:
While I get the point, there is no evidence that Tua can't/won't overcome his injury, and barring that, go crazy for Burrow or just sit and take Herbert/Love.
He should sign for a team like the Titans were last year. i.e. A solid team that has questions at the QB position. Maybe the Pats fit the bill, but I don’t think he matches what BB wants in a QB. The Bears could have been the answer before they traded for Foles.
Miami is building a team to take advantage of having a rookie QB on his rookie contract for the next 3 to 4 years. Paying a veteran QB veteran QB money doesn’t fit Miami”s plans
Vertical Limitforum_veteranThere has got to be some market for a man with that much talent.
i get the reasons why people dislike him.. but the guy is an above average football player and should be a starter.
i dont understand what the hell anyone sees in Teddy Bridgewater and why the Panthers were dumb enough to bite on that bait. Teddy Bridgewater was barely average when Brees went down even with all the talent surrounding him. They won despite of him, much like we won games with Fiedler.. picking Teddy over Cam is all time dumb and this upcoming season will prove that.
I was waiting to see if any team was also dumb enough to pay the 1st round tender price on Taysom Hill..
i have a feeling Cam and Jameis will both get blackballed..
Cashvillesentforum_veteran"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
He's extremely overrated! Always has been. Let him go somewhere else! Maybe the Jaguars will take him.
Overrated?
In his 7 full seasons since his rookie deal (pre-2019), Cam Newton:
1. Started at least 14 games in all 7 seasons (1 of 6 QBs)
2. Threw less than 17 INTs in all 7 seasons (1 of 5 QBs)
3. Ran for 300+ yds in all 7 seasons (only QB)
4. 150+ pass TDs & 40+ rush TDs (only QB
Please stop
"Cashvillesent wrote:
Overrated?
In his 7 full seasons since his rookie deal (pre-2019), Cam Newton:
1. Started at least 14 games in all 7 seasons (1 of 6 QBs)
2. Threw less than 17 INTs in all 7 seasons (1 of 5 QBs)
3. Ran for 300+ yds in all 7 seasons (only QB)
4. 150+ pass TDs & 40+ rush TDs (only QB
Please stop
They arent really full seasons if you play less than 16 games. Just saying.
He was a good QB, borderline great and great at times, but its likely hes done.
"Cashvillesent wrote:
Overrated?
In his 7 full seasons since his rookie deal (pre-2019), Cam Newton:
1. Started at least 14 games in all 7 seasons (1 of 6 QBs)
2. Threw less than 17 INTs in all 7 seasons (1 of 5 QBs)
3. Ran for 300+ yds in all 7 seasons (only QB)
4. 150+ pass TDs & 40+ rush TDs (only QB
Please stop
You know.. when you kept arguing about Brady being the GOAT you repeatedly based your argument on 3 things: SB wins, playoff wins and popular opinion. Didn't matter what else was pointed out, those were the things that mattered for you.
Newton in the SB = 0-1
Newton in the playoffs = 3-4
And popular opinion? Show me the popular opinion supporting the massive hype this guy has had throughout his career. Who ranks Newton in the elite or near elite category? Because that's where you'd have to rank him for him NOT to be overrated.
Newton is overrated because of the hype. He was massively hyped when drafted #1 overall, continued to be hyped throughout much of his career and was even one of the faces of the NFL during a time when he never really had the numbers to back it up.
Oh, and some of the numbers you list aren't really impressive. You mentioned his INT's, but his INT% is actually slightly worse than league average. And if you look at things statistically only (I know you dismiss stats.. I remember that from the Brady vs. Peyton argument) Newton as a passer is actually slightly below average over his career with a -0.133 z-score. That doesn't include his scrambling ability so I have no issue with someone saying his scrambling ability puts him slightly above average, but relative to the hype.. he's vastly underperformed.
Yeah.. Newton is definitely overrated IMO.
texanphinaticforum_veteran"Pauly wrote:
He should sign for a team like the Titans were last year. i.e. A solid team that has questions at the QB position. Maybe the Pats fit the bill, but I don’t think he matches what BB wants in a QB. The Bears could have been the answer before they traded for Foles.
Miami is building a team to take advantage of having a rookie QB on his rookie contract for the next 3 to 4 years. Paying a veteran QB veteran QB money doesn’t fit Miami”s plans
I still don't understand how the Bears' GM has a job. He doubled down on the Mitch Mistake by trading for Nick Effing Foles? When you could have just plucked Cam or Jameis off the street? Not that I think either dude is gonna be a game changer, but Nick Foles and his massive contract? I feel bad for Khalil Mack.
"texanphinatic wrote:
I still don't understand how the Bears' GM has a job. He doubled down on the Mitch Mistake by trading for Nick Effing Foles? When you could have just plucked Cam or Jameis off the street? Not that I think either dude is gonna be a game changer, but Nick Foles and his massive contract? I feel bad for Khalil Mack.
Nick has a higher floor than Cam or Jameis - Cam because if injury risk, Jameis because of turnover risk. Also a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, at the time he made the trade it wasn’t certain either would be available. So it is an understandable move even if it isn’t the move I would have made.
The boneheaded move IMO was not securing Tannehill last year when he could have been had cheap to ameliorate the risk of Trubisky. This applies equally to Tampa Bay as Mariota, Trubisky and Winston all were obvious dangers of regressing in play and Tannehill would have been a good security blanket for all 3 teams. The Bears and the Bucs would probably have made the playoffs with a mid-season change of QB to Tannehill.
Surfs Up 99forum_veteran"Pauly wrote:
He should sign for a team like the Titans were last year. i.e. A solid team that has questions at the QB position. Maybe the Pats fit the bill, but I don’t think he matches what BB wants in a QB. The Bears could have been the answer before they traded for Foles.
Miami is building a team to take advantage of having a rookie QB on his rookie contract for the next 3 to 4 years. Paying a veteran QB veteran QB money doesn’t fit Miami”s plans
And, for at me at least, I am happy with Fitzpatrick as our veteran QB right now. He can hold down the fort until the rook is ready for extended playing time.
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mlb1399forum_veteranNo thanks! Never been a big fan of him as a passing QB. In his prime, impossible to bring down, used feet to extend plays but never a top tier QB in spite of winning the MVP. Not in his prime now so hard pass.
Honestly if we were going to make a dumb QB move, I'd take Winston before Cam even though I dont like Winston as a QB at all.
At least with Winston you get a fairly clean injury slate and the hope that his eye surgery helps cut his boneheaded throws down a bit.
That said I dont want either.