Bush: I'm Not Too Small To Run Between The Tackles

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  1. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/17/reggie-bush-im-not-too-small-to-run-between-the-tackles/

    You're not too small?? Then prove it...you didn't show much last week. Don't tell us you're not too small, show us...

    Until we see it, you're not cut out to be a between the tackle running back since so far in your 5 yr career, no one has seen it and you certainly didn't show anything this week or even this last PS. How dare you compare yourself or even mention your name in the same breath as Walter Payton... As a football fan, I find that very insulting...

    EDIT: Sorry for title, fat fingers, you know...the title should read...

    Bush: I'm Not Too Small To Run Between The Tackles ?
     
  2. Fintastic

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    he definitely isn't in Madden!
     
  3. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    How exactly was this insulting?

    Oh god, he said Walter Payton was 200 lbs, the same weight he is. Let's burn his house down. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Simple, his implication was that he could be as good as Payton because they were the same weight. He's proven he's not anywhere near that level of play. Burning his house down is a bit much, but maybe we should hang him in effigy ?? Seriously, he's just an average RB, better receiver and an average PR... No one is really impressed with him so far here, just like they weren't when he was with NO. Show us that he deserves to be mentioned with the other great all around backs, then talk about it. Until then, keep your mouth closed and the legs churning.
     
  5. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Thanx mods....appreciate the fix of the title...
     
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  6. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    I dont see a problem with Bush trying to prove he can be an everydown back.He has been boxed in as a specialty back without really having a chance to prove his point.

    Sparano has apparently bought into his argument.The proof will be in the his performance .

    I dont think Bush is comparing himself to Payton.Only that there have been undersized backs who have had success as feature backs.
     
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  7. Stitches

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    No, his implication is that weight/size has no bearing one one's ability to be a complete back.
     
  8. Fin-Omenal

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    Larry needs a sedative to calm his self at 10:50 AM....lol, relax my man. Bush wasn't trying to anoint himself an all time great.
     
  9. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, why not? The self annointed "experts" in all things NFL bang that drum, perhaps Reggie can't hear them, which means all things are possible for him?

    I believe he can, I question his intelligence of wanting to in the first place...:lol:
     
  10. gamblerx

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    For a RB who was predicted to rush 2000 yards a season in the pro, only able to rushed over 2000 yards in his whole career? Took 5 seasons for Sean Payton to realize that Bush wasn't able to run the ball...
     
  11. gamblerx

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    Who does a running play in Madden? that's the question...
     
  12. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Bush isn't an every down back, if he thinks so thats fine but if the front office thinks so then we have a serious problem in Miami. As an interested fan of the NFL I can see clearly that he is a good returner/receiver/spot running back but as an every down back? Nope. If we signed him to be our every down back then we are in for a big disappointment, hopefully we get to see Daniel as the main ball carrier soon.
     
  13. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Bush specifically said he wasn't Walter Payton. His implication was that he was the same size and that since a player that size has run between the tackles before, clearly being that size does not mean you can't run between the tackles. Factually, he is completely accurate. Anybody taking offense is just being hyper-sensitive and for that matter struggling with reading comprehension.

    Personally, I agree that the size thing is a non-issue. Whether Bush can run between the tackles for a full season will have more to do with his durability and whether or not he's injury prone.
     
  14. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    No. The implication was that there are other small players who were all time greats. Wow man...
     
  15. pacadermng67

    pacadermng67 New Member

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    Look at Ronnie, he got hurt a lot and he was a bigger back. I dont think size has a whole lot to do with it, but I am sure Reggie's extra practice is helping him prepare for more of a load...
     
  16. gamblerx

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    It's not running between the tackles, it's breaking tackles while running between the tackles. Bush is just too small for that.
     
  17. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    tomato, tomahto...He mentioned his ability with that of one of the greats. I don't see any resemblance, at this point. I hope he proves me wrong, but talking about it, as he is doing, won't make any of us believe in him as that type of back. My point is that he speaks of himself as that type of back, but hasn't proven it yet. Show us...then talk all you want...
     
  18. padre31

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    I tend to think of Warrick Dunn, but his body type was more Ray Rice, Bush is built more like a Wr.

    Which does not mean he cannot play 16 running between the tackles it does mean his body type is more like Eric Metcalf's and it has not been done.

    Walter Payton also had a huge "bubble", and a slashing running style, and lower pad level.
     
  19. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Running between the tackles is generally an overrated skill in the first place. Second, with the rise of running back committees, it's okay to only do one or two things as long as you do them very well. Third, Bush should be more concerned with his blitz pickups and pass protection on third down, because this team looks pretty bad when it comes time to convert downs. Lastly, I don't see how Reggie Bush becomes a featured back when the team traded three picks to move up to the 2nd round to draft Daniel Thomas. This regime is pretty schizophrenic when it comes to sunk costs, and I suspect Thomas' sunk cost is one they regard as important (as opposed to, say, Donald Thomas).

    This is such an overblown issue.
     
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  20. 2xBlown

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    It's not really about size, it's about power an leverage. Reggie does not run with power an he doesn't have the leverage to break through tackles. Reggie is a sports car, not a truck.
     
  21. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    My comprehension is fine, Raf. By mentioning other backs he's comparing his situation those guys. I understand the point he was making, that his size doesn't necessarily matter since others have been near his size and gone on to greatness. Heck Emmitt Smith wasn't much heavier and was shorter. All I'm saying is that him talking about it won't make a difference. Backing up that talk will. So far, in his career, he hasn't shown that. I am offended, as a football fan, when a guy who hasn't lived up to the hype compares himself or his situation with those that have... He wasn't being "Primetime" brash or anything. He was reacting to criticism from media and fans that he's not big enough to be a between-the-tackles RB. Well the criticism is well founded in this case until HE changes that...
     
  22. Nappy Roots

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    Wow what an extreme over reaction while starting a thread. What do you have against reggie? Because certainly seems like you have something against him.

    Anyways size doesn't have much to do with being an inside runner, its the way a RB runs. In his career Reggie ran to light to be an inside runner. Not that one game turns everything around, but he certainly ran heavier and tougher and even dragged a couple defenders while running inside. He didn't have many holes, but I was impressed with his inside running against the Pats. There is little doubt, Reggie looks like a different back so far in a dolphin uniform then the one in a Saints uniform...
     
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  23. Fin-Omenal

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    Reggie isnt shying away from contact he is welcoming contact and doing his best to run through it....he is goinng to end up leading this team in total yards imo so get off his damn back.
     
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  24. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    You realize those were 5th and 7th round picks right?
     
  25. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    People said Chris Johnson couldn't run between the tackles and that the Titans were idiots in reaching for him in the 1st round. I'm less concerned about Reggie Bush's size or some intangible "between-the-tackles running ability" and more concerned with our offensive line creating holes for him to burst through and into the second level.

    P.S. - King, when did you steal my quote? :lol:
     
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  26. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Actually, I agree that he'll lead the team in total yards because Daboll will continue to feed him the ball and rightfully so. He's the closest thing to a playmaker along with Marshall that we have. He isn't shying away from anything but he's showing, even with the success of the first drive where he was running some BTT. What happened was that NE adjusted to him and took him out of the game. That's where he needs to come thru though more consistently, something he hasn't shown a propensity to be able to do...
     
  27. Fin-Omenal

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    I dont expect a Jamaal Charles type season from Bush, I think he will have a good year for us as a RB much better than he EVER did in N.O.

    And in fairness to him the whole running game was bad and I cant say that its all Reggie's fault. All this being said I welcome back Daniel Thomas with open arms.
     
  28. djphinfan

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    All I know is that I'am happy I have a 26 year old focused Reggie Bush, and a Talented rookie, over a lazy Ronnie brown and an aging ricky williams..
     
  29. Nappy Roots

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    Me too! Baffles me that people still question getting rid of those 2 for fresh guys, whether stars or not...I like the moves...
     
  30. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Your quote? I AM Aristotle :tongue2:
     
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  31. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    No, he's comparing his size. That was exactly what he said. The fact that you don't see that and (so far, I believe) everybody else who has responded in this thread does see that indicates that your comprehension is not "fine". You over-reacted. People do it all the time. It's no big deal. Take a step back and realize that if nobody else took it to mean what you got out of it, then odds are you took it to mean something it didn't.
     
  32. muscle979

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    Size didn't stop Warrick Dunn from rushing for over 10K yards. I'm glad Reggie wants to become a more complete back.
     
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  33. Ozzy

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    The offensive line is supposed to get him past the Dline so he can break tackles
     
  34. Trowa

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  35. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    I'm 6'4'', the same height as Karlos Dansby.

    Did I just compare myself to Dansby's skills? Did I just commit some grand blasphemous offense?

    OR did I simply state that I'm the same height as Karlos Dansby?
     
  36. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter. A sunk cost is a sunk cost. You can't get it back no matter what.
     
  37. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Even when it is a great deal?
     
  38. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Sunk costs aren't supposed to be factored in to "great deals", or even "bad deals". They're the price of admission, not a line item cost consideration. Ted Ginn wasn't a bad choice because he was taken in the first round, he was a bad choice because he was a bad choice.

    Fans don't look at it this way, though. I understand that. Doesn't make it any less true, but I understand it.
     
  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Then that makes "Sunk costs" meaningless when it comes to football.

    People who understand football do not see it that way. I understand that. Doesn't make it any less meaningless.
     
  40. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they are meaningless. That's the point. Doesn't matter if it's a 1st round pick or a 7th round pick. It's a sunk cost.

    Thanks for your backhanded agreement. :up:
     

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