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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, May 6, 2021.
Darn, that's too bad...he was sort of like a John Denny in my mind. Not an all-pro by any means, but showed up and played hard consistently. This was bound to happen though and it's probably better to do it today.
Expecting Grant to be next.
One wonders about the idea of players and their pay. On the one hand we can understand why players want to be paid as much as possible. On the other hand, if a player wants stability then perhaps they should try to avoid being paid so much that they become candidates for being cut - and should instead always seek to be good value.
I think this was inevitable. We all saw this coming. McCain was a solid dude and a good pro. He tried to be a leader but skill-wise he was very average. If you're going to build an elite defense, I'm not sure you can so easily get around having someone so average as your FS.
I hate to see Bobby go but these are the kinds of moves required to take the next step.
Well, the average NFL career is just two years...so you have to see that from all sides. If you're a superstar then sure, you don't have to demand a max contract (especially w/ sponsorship deals), but an average player like McCain has to make sure he secures his future by maximizing his contract value for his level of play.
I genuinely hopes that he signs somewhere else and gets a few more years in, but that's honestly not guaranteed. Cutting him this early maximizes his chances of landing somewhere, so the Fins did him a favor in that regard.
I agree with your premise (don’t price yourself out of a job), but the NFLPA would never go for that. Plus, it goes against the very fiber of an agent’s being, lol.
He will be a Patsy when all said and done.
Apparently i posted my response right in the middle ok Key's quote lol
Lets try this again:
Yeah with the signing of Waddle for the slot/PR as well as Robert Foster (burner)...and i think Colman was a returner as well is i remember hearing....Grant's day are numbered.
I really liked McCain and Grant but understand money v production. McCain was a great utility knife and gave everything he had every play but coul stand to be upgraded. And Grant was given soo many chances by many coordinators and HCs and just wasnt reliable in the end.
As long as it's not with NE...or any AFC East team for that matter, than i would love to see him on a good contending playoff team as opposed to a scrub dumpster fire team. Good dude. Wish him the best
I am surprised. He was the qb of the defense. Thought he would at least last a year
He never made a big play.
Sometimes it's a matter of cost, but this is a matter of talent level and cost. Bobby could offer to play for vet minimum and I think he still gets cut. Jones and Holland are seen as the future, and the future starts now.
All the best to this man in the future!
Ultimate team guy. Never took a play off. Played injured. Played out of position when asked. Never backed down, despite being undersized.
Business move only. McCain can leave with his head held high.
Sad move but the right move.
He was solid... but we need more than that
I can see it from that point of view, but I'd advise against it for several reasons. Players have taken lower-than-market-value deals and found that they make them easier to trade.
But if I was a player and thought I was worth more, I'd absolutely consider my interests first. And if I was elite, I'd be hesitant to take a haircut on a contract because it makes it easier for other teams to screw their franchise players if the top players sign for lower value. It's strictly business.
"According to a source, the Dolphins opted to move on from McCain instead of fellow starter Eric Rowe, in part because of Rowe’s ability to play either safety position and his acumen defending tight ends.
McCain was primarily a free safety — the position that second-round pick Holland can slide into.
The Dolphins also saved slightly more money releasing McCain than if they were to cut Rowe...
McCain was due $6.4 million and $7 million the next two seasons — with that money nonguaranteed.
The Dolphins also could supplement the safety position by signing veteran former Colts starter Malik Hooker, who visited earlier this week...
McCain comes off of a very solid season. In his 503 coverage snaps, McCain was second best in the league in passer rating against (27.5).
Players in McCain’s coverage area caught only 5 of 10 passes for 56 yards, no touchdowns and an interception. Only Tampa Bay’s Mike Edwards had a lower passer rating against among all NFL safeties.
Overall, Pro Football Focus rated him 54th among 92 safeties. The fact McCain was ranked 60th as a run defender partly explained why he wasn’t graded higher. But because McCain often was deep downfield, he obviously wasn’t expected to stop the run near the line of scrimmage on those plays...
PFF ranked McCain 110th among safeties in tackling efficiency; his five missed tackles tied for 30th most, just ahead of Minkah Fitzpatrick, who had six.
The Dolphins valued his communication and leadership skills, but apparently not enough to keep him.
The Dolphins believe Holland, selected 36th overall out of Oregon, will give them a younger, cheaper, more versatile safety with better ball skills and one potentially better against the run.
Holland or Jones will likely play alongside Rowe, who has two years remaining on a three-year, $18 million deal and is due $2.5 million each of the next two seasons. Had Miami cut Rowe, there would be $1 million in dead money and $5 million in cap savings. But the Dolphins hadn’t broached anything with Rowe as of Wednesday evening...
Also under contract for the Dolphins at safety: Clayton Fejedelem, Nate Holley and Brian Cole.
McCain, a former fifth-round pick, played cornerback and safety during his six years in Miami. He appeared in 85 games for the Dolphins, starting 57, and had seven interceptions.
The Dolphins now have more than $16 million in cap space — enough to sign a draft class and practice squad and have a small leftover cushion...
But the Dolphins now have $16.9 million in dead money on their 2021 cap, which is 11th highest in the league — a result of jettisoning Ereck Flowers, Kyle Van Noy, Shaq Lawson and McCain.
The Dolphins have now moved on from all of their captains last season: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Van Noy and McCain."
No one likes getting paid less than their worth.
That assumes pay is based on current worth and not a hope for what you will be worth, or more than you're worth because of competition. It also assumes a narrow acceptable amount, and ignores the factors that one might consider when determining acceptable pay. A player might prefer continuation with one team and one home for less money than the loss of those for more money - especially when one understands the nature of a capped league.
If that's what a player wants, then that's that player's worth.
That depends how you mean. It's what a player is happy with, even if a player's on field contribution could be valued at a higher dollar amount.
It's not a matter of worth as much as goals.
Well, i'm bummed about this. He was one of my favorite players. I didn't see this coming at all. Hopefully Holland can step in and make things happen.