Blanket Coverage: Time running out for Tannehill to show Dolphins growth

"Fin D wrote:

Last year, Tannehill isn't elite and we are average because he can't complete the deep ball.
This year, we are below average and he completes the deep ball.

Last month, wins and losses are QB stats.
This week, we won in spite of Tannehill.

at least we still have pocket presence (ole reliable). although i like the new critique of him just being dumb, well maybe not dumb but football dumb lol

"finsfandan wrote:

We did win despite Tannehill. Make a case that we didn't.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That can't be if wins and losses are QB stats.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

at least we still have pocket presence (ole reliable). although i like the new critique of him just being dumb, well maybe not dumb but football dumb lol

Don't forget, "he's not a leader, just look at the expression on his face in the huddle".

"Fin D wrote:

That can't be if wins and losses are QB stats.

Nobody said they are. We argued that good QBs tend to have good records, which is true the vast majority of the time. Don't speak for others.

Get back on topic. If you don't think we won despite Tannehill, make a case for it.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"adamprez2003 wrote:

so are you and all the other people who said tannehill couldnt throw deep going to eat crow? you do realize tannehill is tied for 4th in the nfl for pass plays over 40 yds. 8th for pass plays over 20 yds

He couldn't throw a deep ball last season...he has clearly improved on it, props to him on that front. Unfortunately he has taken a step backward in many other areas and now what we have is a QB who's career is slipping away.

"Fin D wrote:

Don't forget, "he's not a leader, just look at the expression on his face in the huddle".

lol. forgot that one

"Fin-O wrote:

He couldn't throw a deep ball last season...he has clearly improved on it, props to him on that front. Unfortunately he has taken a step backward in many other areas and now what we have is a QB who's career is slipping away.

i remember saying this would be the excuse. he improved last year. the only difference between last year and this year is he has receivers that can track and adjust and catch instead of stepping out of bounds and dropping passes. thats why our front office brought in stills and parker

"finsfandan wrote:

Nobody said they are. We argued that good QBs tend to have good records, which is true the vast majority of the time. Don't speak for others.

Get back on topic. If you don't think we won despite Tannehill, make a case for it.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

it's true. tannehill did his best russell wilson impression today. he relied on his defense, field position and run game and made a few critical passes to seal the deal

"adamprez2003 wrote:

i remember saying this would be the excuse. he improved last year. the only difference between last year and this year is he has receivers that can track and adjust and catch instead of stepping out of bounds and dropping passes. thats why our front office brought in stills and parker

Thats exactly right...he was throwing great deep passes his whole career.

I guess I shouldn't put it past your little group to grasp on top one last straw since that was the only good play Ryan had ALL DAY at home vs one of the worst pass D's in all of football.

I mean....what else do you have?? He was 9-19 with 80 some yards and a 48 QBR in a game where his protection was decent, he could audible, he had an alpha WR at his disposal...what excuse do you have for his play?

I'll hang up and listen because THIS will be good.

"Fin-O wrote:

Thats exactly right...he was throwing great deep passes his whole career.

I guess I shouldn't put it past your little group to grasp on top one last straw since that was the only good play Ryan had ALL DAY at home vs one of the worst pass D's in all of football.

I mean....what else do you have?? He was 9-19 with 80 some yards and a 48 QBR in a game where his protection was decent, he could audible, he had an alpha WR at his disposal...what excuse do you have for his play?

I'll hang up and listen because THIS will be good.

how does "he improved last year" become he's been throwing great deep passes his whole career? i'll hang up and listen now. this should be good

"adamprez2003 wrote:

how does "he improved last year" become he's been throwing great deep passes his whole career? i'll hang up and listen now. this should be good

:lol:

Nice deflection....

I admire the consistency though.

havent checked to see if these are accurate but this was posted on another site

Ryan Tannehill is top a top 10 QB in most of the passing stats.

I am amazed at how many people want to ditch a top 10 QB. How many times have we had a top 10 QB not named Marino?

RT’s Rank in Passing Stats:
1. Completions – 9th
2. Passing yds – 7th
3. Yds/Game – 9th
4. TD’s – T 9th
5. 1st Downs – 10th
6. +20yds – 8th
7. +40yds – T 2nd

All despite the fact that the Dolphins have a poor O Line – ranking 27th in rushing and giving up the 4th most QB sacks in the league.
Stats from NFL.com
by Dolphriend on Nov 30, 2015 | 4:01 PM reply rec http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/11/30/9818842/so-you-want-a-new-quarterback-eh

the +40 stat is wrong. he is tied for 4th. this post was from 11/30 so from last week

"adamprez2003 wrote:

havent checked to see if these are accurate but this was posted on another site

What excuse do you have for his play today??

"adamprez2003 wrote:

it's true. tannehill did his best russell wilson impression today. he relied on his defense, field position and run game and made a few critical passes to seal the deal

Yeah, his best Russell Wilson impression was 9/19, 86 yards and 1 TD.

You're quite literal about few critical passes. One pass for 47 yards and a TD to a towering Parker. Take that away and he's 8/18 for 39 yards, 0 TDs. Against a Ravens team led by Matt Schaub with one of the worst passing defenses in the league.

Not so easy to look good when you're asked to be efficient, not even against a terrible team.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"adamprez2003 wrote:

havent checked to see if these are accurate but this was posted on another site

If his insistence of Ryan being "a top 10 QB" is any indicator?? Id say accuracy isn't in his vocabulary.

"Fin-O wrote:

:lol:

Nice deflection....

I admire the consistency though.

you guys do it all the time. you purposely mischarecterize people's posts and draw up straw man arguments

"adamprez2003 wrote:

you guys do it all the time. you purposely mischarectarize people's posts and draw up straw man arguments

Is that right....

What is your excuse for his play today??

Forgot to mention that we would've lost if the Ravens weren't screwed by that terrible call that took away a TD.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"finsfandan wrote:

Forgot to mention that we would've lost if the Ravens weren't screwed by that terrible call that took away a TD.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

only a pats fan would call that a terrible call

"Fin-O wrote:

Is that right....

What is your excuse for his play today??

no excuse. he played well enough to win. do that 19 times in a season and you get a big shiny trophy

"adamprez2003 wrote:

only a pats fan would call that a terrible call

Hey...

What is your excuse for Ryan's horrible play today?

"Fin-O wrote:

If his insistence of Ryan being "a top 10 QB" is any indicator?? Id say accuracy isn't in his vocabulary.

he doesnt say he's a top ten qb only that his stats are. one cant quantify "leadership" and "pocket presence" and having that "it" factor

"adamprez2003 wrote:

no excuse. he played well enough to win. do that 19 times in a season and you get a big shiny trophy

LOL, thank you. I needed that.

You guy's don't have a leg to stand on anymore...its a wrap, perhaps save some face by becoming a little more realistic for your own sake.

"Fin-O wrote:

LOL, thank you. I needed that.

You guy's don't have a leg to stand on anymore...its a wrap, perhaps save some face by becoming a little more realistic for your own sake.

you should follow your own advice

"adamprez2003 wrote:

he doesnt say he's a top ten qb only that his stats are. one cant quantify "leadership" and "pocket presence" and having that "it" factor

We are at the point where he could have all the leadership in the world, but if your a shi--y QB you simply won't be playing much longer. He has fell off a cliff in terms of development, he is a borderline top 20 QB and thats being polite.