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Blanket Coverage: Time running out for Tannehill to show Dolphins growth

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  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/12/03/blanket-coverage-ryan-tannehill-dolphins-nfl-week-13

     
  2. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If this was a whole new regime coming in, I'd say yes why would a new FO want to tie their hands with a QB if they think another QB is rated higher.

    But Tannebaum is still here so he'd have be very convinced.
     
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  3. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    I think more and more people are coming to that realization and even though Tannenbaum extended him, he didn't draft him and that's probably why it was structured that way, so he can eventually walk away from it whilst grooming a younger guy in the meantime.
     
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  4. jw3102

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    Unless Tannehill show more consistency over the last five games, it will not surprise me if they draft a QB in the first or second round of this years draft.

    Philbin, Sherman, and Lazor all tied their jobs to Tannehill developing into a solid QB. While Tannehill did show improvement each of his first three years, this year he has seemed to plateau in his development.

    Perhaps it's because of Lazor's play calling to some degree, but his pocket awareness and inability to play well for large parts of many games continues to be a major problem.

    Tannehill will obviously be with the Dolphins next year because of his contract. Whether the next head coach will want to put his job in Tannehill's hands beyond 2016 will have to be determined. Yet the next head coach should have the right to bring in his own QB of future if he thinks Tannehill is not the answer. Drafting a QB in the early rounds of the 2016 draft will at least provide competition at the QB position and just might provide an upgrade for the position over the coming years.
     
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  5. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    For some reason i rather they extend campbell and leave taylor in there for next year at OC... I dont want a new coach's future to be tied in Tannehill's hands.. Dude is a career killer.
     
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  6. Finster

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    One small correction I'd like to make on that final quote;
    That isn't entirely true, they would have to release him prior to the 5th day of the league year in 2017, or then his entire salary for that year becomes guaranteed, so you can't have him come and compete that year and then cut him, just as a note.

    Another reason time is running out imo, is because they are no more meaningful games, hence no more clutch games, and that is one of the big issues that the team even mentioned when he signed this contract.
     
  7. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for drafting a guy. There are some decent QBs available in the draft imo. Free agency doesn't have much to offer. I'd say we'll take someone in the early rounds. Tannehill has five games to show us something, otherwise his run will be coming to an end. In a way....his era already has ended.
     
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  8. djphinfan

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    gotta study them all..
     
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  9. Fin-O

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    Kind of what we all (well most of us) have known. Ryan will be our QB next season but will basically be playing for his job next season. I think they will undoubtedly be drafting a QB this year to help make that decision a little easier if it comes to that. Sucks but he simply has not shown enough to date to merit that bogus contract that IMO had a lot to do with trying to help him feel like the organization was 100% behind him. Because god forbid he have to think someone doesn't like him or that the PS players are trying to make fun of him. The delicate kit gloves treatment has been pathetic...a QB can't be a mental midget and thats what Philbin and his regime just may have created.

    That being said we will also get another full year in all likelihood to see if he can become that QB we all hoped he would but has yet to surface. Ryan will be our QB next year and I'm ok with that, because he will be forced to play with a chip on his shoulder instead of having everything handed to him. He just may thrive with that weight on his shoulders.
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    getting rid of a lame coordinator may apply some good pressure on him as well...look what it did for Stafford..I realize ryan is not as good as stafford but we might see a jump in performance level.
     
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  11. Fin-O

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    I think we will see better overall play just because Lazor being gone is a breath of fresh air for the Off in general. Question is will Ryan also improve on many of the things he still needs to improve on?? Here's to hoping.
     
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  12. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    It's high time this team follow the Seattle Seahawks' approach of addressing the QB position. Spam it until something sticks. Look at the resources they spent in a very short amount of time searching for a QB on Charlie Whitehurst, Matt Flynn, and then Russell Wilson. I guess you could even throw Tavaris Jackson in there. They weren't afraid to move on from a failed attempt quickly or even draft a guy to cover their *** if the free agent (Flynn) didn't pan out.

    I'm not lumping Tannehill in with the likes of Whitehurst or Flynn. But simply put, he isn't playing well enough this season and not only has he not improved, but he's regressed. It would be a very prudent move to draft or otherwise acquire legitimate competition for the position in the offseason.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    if ryan doesn't understand and start to implement an element of improv to his game, he will soon be a backup..if he's been strapped by lazor and sherman i understand ok, but no more, if your not gonna show me that you can multitask, run around, scramble and make some fu%%in plays in the midst of this mess, then you aint ever gonna get it....so get it....damn it....Im not gonna count on perfect surrounding variables to get good qb performance to build my team, do some sh$$ on your own.
     
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  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    There were people on here who really wanted Flynn.

    I'm not sold on drafting a QB in this draft. If we're going to go high in the draft on a QB, I want to be sure we're getting someone better than what we have. Not just draft high because. You know, like how we got Tannehill.
     
  16. Colmax

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    It's certainly NOT looking good, and I agree with what a poster said earlier: there's just no more meaningful games this year. Pride only goes so far, and it works better when there is something to work for.

    I said this before the season started, but retracted a little when the preseason came; but I smell another Alex Smith-type career. And he is not near as athletic. Smith had what? Three or four different coordinators in his first several years in the league? He gets chopped for Kaepernick. I hope Miami doesn't have similar results.

    Another first-round QB comes to mind with similar circumstances: Jason Campbell. I sure as hell hope for Tanny's sake his career doesn't turn into that.....
     
  17. I disagree these games are very meaningful for him. They may be the last games he plays if something clicks in the off season but besides that, he needs to show something to restore peoples confidence. He faces some solid opponets and his performance means a lot.

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  18. AdamC13

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    Unfortunately, this draft is rather week at the QB position. Miami might do best trying to pick a young QB off another roster who has had a year or two to develop...McCarron from Cincy or Hundley on GB. I don't think the Pats would be willing to let go of Garoppolo given Brady's age.

    Heck, if Manziel could stay off the booze I think he would be an upgrade over Tannehill. At least Miami would be a bit more exciting on offense. Not only has Tannehill played bad, he is boring as ****.
     
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  19. djphinfan

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    not I..Jftr..flynn was a joke..
     
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  20. CashInFist

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    But the new HC does not have to start Ryan Tannehill next season. Seriously.
     
  21. jw3102

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    I never said the new coach had to start Tannehill. I merely stated Tannehill would be on the team in 2016 because of his contract. By bringing in another QB to compete with Tannehill for the starting QB position, this would give the new head coach the opportunity to play whichever QB he feels give them the best chance to win.
     
  22. mlb1399

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    I don't think we can stop trying just because some guy was a bum or another guy didn't work out. I used to like Holmgren's approach who would take a QB in almost every draft whether it was to find their franchise QB, develop a good backup or find someone who could be trade bait, even if it was in the 7th round. It's too important of a position to not be drafting someone in every 2-3 drafts.

    On top of finding someone who could replace Tannehill, I think we just have to get better at drafting in general. The last 3 drafts have yielded 1 impact player which isn't going to cut it. I'm not talking about All-Pro caliber players, just people who can play their position at a high level and positively impact the game.

    This team is littered with backups who shouldn't be starting on most rosters besides 4-7 teams. With Grimes decline, we need to replace 3/4 of our secondary in the next 2 years, at least 2/3 of LB corp and 2-3 starters on our DL. Hopefully Phillips can develop into a starting DT. Offensively, we need at least 2 better starters on the OL. Either Tannehill has to figure out to reduce the number of negative plays with sacks and turnovers or we need to move on from him. At this point, he doesn't have my confidence.
     
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  23. Vertical Limit

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    um who told you this draft is weak at qb lol its pretty damn good.. Have you watched goff, cook, and lynch play? Ill take any of them over tannehill..

    Hell i like brandon doughty over him too
     
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  24. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    Brissett is better than THill right now.
     
  25. dolphin25

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    I LOVE Brandon Doughty. he is a stud! I've watched every game of his this year. Going to watch the Championship tomorrow. He can make all the throws, is a real leader. Plays in a pro style offense. Plays under center at times, and is a great young man. Only QB in FBS it have 4000 yards and 40 TD's two years in a row.
     
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  26. firedan

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    They should at least bring in a vet to compete even if the y don't draft one.
     
  27. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    My plan is to sign Peyton Manning to compete with Tannehill in preseason.. and still draft Doughty to groom... we can't leave this blackhole at QB any longer.. it has to be addressed already... i felt more confident with Gus Frerotte leading us than I do with Tannehill.
     
  28. LI phinfan

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    Brissett is better right now? Right now? That's. Big jump isn't it? Manziel, Ferrotte, Fitzpatrick and college QB's who have not taken a snap in the NFL a would be upgrades over RT.. A lot of knee jerk reactions due to frustration. I get it.. But this is getting silly. I'm all for competition for Ryan... But some of the names are absurd.


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  29. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    You know, for someone who is sick & tired about the Tannehill "bashing", you're in just about every Tannehill thread. Hmmm.
     
  30. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hmmmm.. And that has zippo do with your outlandish comment..hmmm


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  31. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    No, you didn't & based on all of your posts regarding the subject matter, you never will. And the post below?

    You're happy with this childish response? Really?

    I've read your posts defending Tannehill like you gave birth to him. So I've wondered is he trolling or just simply lonely b/c clearly you subscribe to the "only time we're speaking is when we're beefing" way of life. If you even want to call it a life. So have at it and continue to believe it's your duty to be part of THill's defense team while getting your panties in a bunch every time a fellow fan makes a negative post.
     
  32. LI phinfan

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    Wow, that was mature. Show me where I defend Tannehill and say he is the answer or elite.. Honestly , I don't know. He might not be.. I go back and forth. I shouldn't let certain posts bother me, but they do , that's on me. I'm not lonely or trolling.. Just too passionate about this team, again on me. I should've known better to respond to a post about a guy who hasn't played a down in the NFL already being better than a QB in the league who have put up some decent numbers, not great , decent. But I'm trolling in your mind. Find outlandish stuff I've said ... Anywhere . I have a nice life with plenty to do.. Maybe I should stop responding to negative posts with absolutely no substance.. Again , that's on me .


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  33. Coral Reefer

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    It's time now IMO.
    The guy while having issues with his OL has shown very little growth.
    I've taken a wait and see approach consistently up to recently.

    It's time to reassess the QB position again.
    Don't believe Tanny is going to progress much more.
     
  34. padre31

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    I do, to me THill is having a rough yr, do think he also has show the ability to elevate some of the guys around him.
     
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    As crazy as that sounds, Manning is likely going to be released and he probably won't see too many suitors at his age. If we are drafting a quarterback in '16, there's nobody better in the league to have on your roster than Manning. It would be an immense help to T-hill and the rookie.
     
  36. bran

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    manning isn't going anywhere to compete for a job, if he doesn't start he is just going to retire.
     
  37. padre31

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    That Marshawn Lynch guy, he was pretty good.

    To me, get THill even a competent offensive line, we have two Guards who should not be on the field, a poor running game, and chaos in the Staff, a mismatched Te.

    Still buying what Tannehill is selling let us see how the month plays out
     
  38. finsfandan

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    I don't wanna draft a QB high. I want to draft BPA because this team has needs everywhere.

    That being said, I'd like to trade for McCarron or draft mid to late rounds. We need competition at QB. Tannehill should be playing for his job next season so that should light a fire under his ***.


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  39. KeyFin

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    Tannehill is CLEARLY not a leader and you only have to look at his expressions in the huddle to tell that. He looks panicked, worried and pretty much clueless the vast majority of the time. Meanwhile, when he's on the sidelines, he appears completely oblivious to what's going on around him. Other than the occasional mis-cue on a pass, he doesn't even talk to his offensive players or coordinators. He just stands there looking like he'd rather be fishing, and delivers zero energy to the team.

    None of that comes even remotely close to leadership.
     
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