It's a shame the rest of the conference doesnt see it that way. They have a nice formula (scam) to get one of their teams in the title game though, so I understand why they wouldnt want to mess w/ that.
Penn State will get demolished by an SEC team (Florida/Georgia/Alabama) I think Texas loses and gets skipped by the Sec champion.
really? i dont think any team can "demolish" penn state that better not happen, if texas loses to baylor, kansas or texas a&m. then i think they will get jumped but, if texas beats texas tech i see no way they lose again....i really want texas in the championship game. they are going through a tougher stretch right now than any team in the SEC
Even if they get by Texas Tech they'll have to play Missouri again in a Championship game. The Big Ten protects its teams too much to avoid any potential late loss that could cost them. Even if Texas loses to Baylor or Kansas at the end of the year I still think this 4 week stretch they're coming out of, and the Big 12 Champ game should be enough to get them in the title game. I dont know if it will, but it should. PSU could be a really good team. It's hard to know because their schedule doesnt challenge them.
Big Ten protects their teams?? Ridiculous qoute of the week....I mean was it not the #1 and #2 teams in the country battling it out with the LAST game on their schedule 2 years ago?? Laughable comment. Penn State has played on the road at Ohio State and in Madison where Wisconsin had only lost once in three years, plus they play at Iowa(top 30) and Michigan State wich is 21st in the BCS.. Maybe not as challenging as a big 12 schedule or even an SEC schedule but certainly no cupcake.
One sportswriters opinion is all of a sudden a "fact" because you happen to agree with it?? Good philosophy.
Yes the SEC has no idea whats its like being in bad shape I guess the Big Ten should just sit and twiddle their thumbs because they don't appeal to the masses I wish a playoff would happen but it probably wont the BCS system is flawed. Until then why wouldn't you take advantage of it?
It's obviously opinion, who stated it was fact? The article is support for the opinion I posted...see how that works? Way to address the point though.
Your conference has continually been one of the road blocks to a playoff system Like I said I dont blame them for taking advantage of the system. But it doesnt mean they cant be criticized for it.
I addressed the point in teh previous post....remeber, the one you replied with"this article explains it all" Back on topic the Big Ten is down right now...yes, but not as bad as some would hope and by no means does the Big ten "avoid" late season risks Ex: OSU vs Michigan
Hey if I was in charge I would add another team preferably Pitt, or ND (-) then have a conference title game. That would fix the Big problem.
The lack of a title game is how they avoid risk. They cant change the schedule mid season to avoid playing a good team at the end, so you dont get bonus points for that, sorry.
Could be argued that PAC-10 is the same way, despite all teams playing each other, only 2 or 3 are worth anything it seems. Just like the Big ten recently. I'm pretty sure the Big Ten has tried multiple times to add ND too.
JT believes that a team will be added to the Big Ten within the next 5 years with a split and a conference title game.
Big 12 has high powered offense I seriously doubt a SEC could play defense. I seriously doubt any defense could stop Texas, Oklahoma, TTech, Mizzou.
I would say the samething about the Pac-10. And ND not joining the Big Ten cant be blamed for how they run their conference. ND isnt joining, they need to get over it and find someone else.
You have the right to your opinion, but others may say they have not played anything worthy of a HS Defense either. So... who is right? We won't know. Unfortunately until we get a playoff all we (as fans) can do is have our opinions of how one team will fare against another. Two years ago EVERYONE thought OSU was going to DESTROY UF. I also remember most people (myself included on that one) thinking USC was going to Destroy UT when they played. That is one of the fun things about College football. Now about the Big Ten? Are they taking advantage of the system and their conference being weak? Yes. Do I blame them? Heck no. However, Don is right, if they are going to take advantage of the system they sure as heck can be criticized for it. Not just taking shots at the Big Ten. I think the Pac 10 is doing the same right now. Personally I think EVERY conference should have a title game. PERIOD. That way it pretty much guarantees at least one tough game on a neutral field.
Who in the SEC has a defense? Certainly not LSU, Georgia, Alabama, Florida. Notice its the power houses...... We may see a 12th team added in the Big Ten it just wont happen as fast everyone wants it to.
What is your definition of "Having a defense"??? Florida is 6th in the nation in scoring defense and passing defense. Alabama is 5th in yards against and 2nd in rushing defense. South Carolina is 4th in pass defense. etc....... Sorry, Try again. http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/sortab...table=overall&stat=overallPtsGm&dir=ascending
Well if thats the point, that would apply to quite a few teams now wouldn't it? Bring on the shootouts.
Not against a great offense at the collegiate level. I'm sure the Georgia vs Florida game will be a high scoring affair.
What happened to Ohio St.'s offense two years ago against a good D? A good defense ALWAYS stops a good offense my man. Look at the Super Bowl last year.
What happened was are biggest threat on offense was out for the game after the Kickoff. What happened to the supposed best defense that game? Also don't compare Pro defenses to college. Its hard to find a defense that will dominate every game in college.
Fair enough on the college to Pros point. But lets be honest, it didnt matter of Ginn was in the game or not, OSU had no shot. Smith was getting hit every time he dropped back to pass and the defense was horrid. And I, for one, never thought OSU had a good defense. They were ok, nothing special. Thats not a knock against them, more of a knock against the Big 10. The only high-powered offense they played that season was Michigan who put up a decent amount of points. Point is, you cant compare what teams do within their conferences to that of a national level. The SEC is the dominant conference right now. In a few years it may be a diff conf. but right now SEC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone Else
THE SEC has some competition with the Big 12. I don't think there is a team in the SEC that could stop some of those offenses. Yes but on paper Ohio ST had the best ranked defense going in thats why I said games aren't played on paper. Your right we still would have lost because Florida dominated the trenches. Ginn probably would have little impact but he was the only playmaker on offense that be a game changer. Smith is a great QB if he gets protection but Ohio St never faced a line like Florida all year.
The only thing I'll say about the Big 12 is that when they play superior D's they seem to struggle. How Oklahoma didnt put up 100 against Boise in that Bowl game a couple years ago I'll never know. How they looked so bad aginst WVU is also a mystery. Is it a Bowl Game thing? Or is the defense in the Big 12 just so bad it makes the offenses look that much better by comparison? Hawaii last year (I know they're not Big 12) is a perfect example of what happens when teams like that play an SEC team. Hawii's offense smoked people, then they had to play Georgia... If Texas plays an SEC team and puts up 40 or 50 I'll eat crow, but until then I just think the D's in that conf. could handle those schools. Like you said, its all about the trenches.
I don't think Hawaii could have beat any other opponent that was in a BCS game they just do not have the same amount of talent. I wasn't drinking the Warriors kool aid I knew they were going to get smashed. Oklahoma is just choking late they could have been in the NCG last year but they blew it. Well I guess its a waiting game
Then by comparison you have to say the SEC has enemic offenses because they are traditionally low scoring conference games...
A lot of teams struggle to score in the SEC. It all goes back to recruiting when you look at it. The SEC has the best athletes by far and that's not even up for disscussion. How did you like those enemic offenses the last two title games?
Interesting, kind of ironic you would make that statement in a thread about the Big Ten. I assume you haven't watched much SEC football lately?
