There aint no way in the world he lasts past this season. UNLESS he is kept for now and his team goes on a nice winning streak. He is in way over his head as a Head Coach.
"There's no way Nick Saban goes to Alabama. What's with this crap?" "Jason Taylor won't play for the Jets. Come on, he has professional pride." "Of course Chad Pennington's body will hold up." Never say never.
Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher and Jeff Fisher are the obvious choices, all of them qualified to do the job. But there could be argument that any of them would either ask for too much money, or too much control, or both. I agree with Keith that one of the things that makes Gruden so attractive is the fact that he seems to have used his off time from coaching to dig into the college ranks and really get his hands around what they're doing there, and this is something I continue to see being a source of strength in NFL coaching, the ability to adapt and implement new and GOOD ideas. And if Gruden is really re-charged and ready to get his hands dirty, the guy was a tireless worker, or so I heard, in Tampa Bay and Oakland. I'm not sure if you would have to worry about him not taking the job seriously or trying to cut some corners, etc. What you WOULD have to worry about is just stamina. Jimmy Johnson didn't have the stamina to accept the stress for a long time and really just keep doing the job. He got here in 1996 and tried to leave after 3 years. Would Jon Gruden do the same? Does no good if he works hard but he's just not interested in staying in coaching after a couple of years and being tens of millions of dollars richer, probably welcome to return to announcing, etc. Here's something to think about though. I had just been thinking during the Green Bay game, why aren't we trying to find some people from that tree? Sure enough Simon reiterates and says that Stephen Ross should hire Russ Ball. Ball may or may not be the guy to hire but if there's someone in that organization that's been with the Packers a long while like maybe a Reggie McKenzie, that's someone that has a shared history with Gruden from when both were in Green Bay together. I think Gruden would want to hire Bill Callahan away from the Jets and have him be his Offensive Coordinator. That would weaken the Jets, which would be a good thing.
Some may think I'm crazy, but why not look to some of the best special teams coordinators as a head coach? They are able to get a lot of guys on the same page and work together to do a job. They all seem to be fiery as well, so come with passion. Hire one of them, and then help put together a good coaching staff along with a quality GM (if Ireland is gone).
Im not sure id like Nolan as an interim the way this defense has regressed from last season. We cant hire any assistants until end of season, so screw it let Daboll do it.
Honestly, if Sparano is canned, i'd want to see Daboll be the interim HC over Nolan. At the end of the season, I can see Ross hiring Rob Ryan... just saying.
1. Cowher 2. Gruden 3. Fisher Cowher is #1 for me far and away. 5 AFC title games, a few of which were lost to Brady lead Pats teams and a couple of SB appearances. Once he won his power struggle with former GM Tom Donahue his success rate took off at which point he brought in his own personnel man who understood the importance of the QB position. Plus he builds a hard hitting physical D that pressures the QB and runs the 3-4 so the personnel changes wont be nearly as drastic as if you go to a 4-3 base. He would have a field day with our 3-4 personnel imo and turn Dansby and Burnett in to monsters that we signed them to be. How do we get Luck then? As it is, Seattle, KC, Indy and Jacksonville are going to be equally as pitiful apparently. Only saving grace is Jacksonville already has a QB so Im not sure they would draft Luck. I watched Skip Holtz for 3 years at South Carolina. I nearly gouged my eyes out. If that was our next hire....wow...Id have to ban myself for the words I would type.
I don't like Jon Gruden as a GM but I do like him as a coach. It's basically the same thing with everyone listed. I would prefer a GM if Ireland takes the bullet as well.
If I did, I don't remember saying so. I might have said that Randy Shannon wasn't going to be fired at a certain point, say, immediately after the FSU loss, even though the FSU loss wound up being the last straw per Kirby Hocutt. I do remember being cynical about Shannon's odds of being fired as long as he produced a "good enough" program, good enough being whatever Donna Shalala wanted.
Cowher would be my first choice...I think you have to have a personality that can motivate a team and a fanbase to come together and play with aggression first and foremost, especially in this town, and in that stadium...It is our reality..I think those things are more important than choosing a guy based on x's and o's.
Unless this team makes a remarkable turn around. He will never last past this season. The owner already tried to replace him this season. One more mediocre season and you think Ross would keep him?
Or we could hire Cowher because he can actually coach which would make the team better which would THEN make the fans happier. This team deserves to have it's fanbase pissed off. Its not about us or the stadium and history has already proven it over and over....
Yeah, I can see at least 3 scenarios in which Sparano is the coach in 2012. 1. The team performs very well down the stretch, and Ross is convinced the problem was a new system without benefit of offseason installation. 2. Ross decides it's not worth paying Sparano to sit at home for 2 more years. 3. Ross sees the players praising Sparano and decides the problem lies elsewhere. Bonus 4. Ross again fails to get the guy he wants.
You're correct on scenario number one. The rest is simply not going to happen. If this team even makes it to win 6, 7, or 8 games it wont be enough. Ross knows his season ticket holders will not tolerate one more season with Sparano under these circumstances.
I wonder if Gruden would actually try to bring in a college guy to be the coordinator? He has a history with Callahan, but the direction Callahan wants to go and the direction I think Gruden wants to go may be two different directions.
I was thinking about this earlier. I wonder if Ross would rather sit back for a few weeks and see if the seat gets hot enough that Sparano resigns and therefor is not due any further money. Kinda like Wanny in 04.
I don't think Fisher is the answer to be honest. His perception or acceptance as a very good coach is not borne out by his record imo. Not a fan of him being the next coach at all.
Trade for Belichick. And I'm only half way kidding. Or Tomlin. The same names people are throwing out there: Cowher Gruden Fischer Ryan
They absolutely can happen. For example, number two: if the franchise is losing money as generally believed, how can Ross justify having millions of dead contract dollars on the books? He can't. And he was burned by the "quick fix" idea in 2010, when he predicted a Super Bowl appearance, so I don't think he'd sit there and say "Well, I can fire Sparano and Ireland, and their replacements will get this thing turned around immediately. I'll more than make up the money I lost by firing those two." And frankly I don't think Ross is familiar enough with the NFL's rules to fire Spireland for cause, as Al Davis did to Lane Kiffin. He also doesn't want to be known as a guy with a quick trigger, firing two guys whose contracts he just extended, and refusing to pay the money by firing for cause. Who wants to work for a guy like that?
Ireland needs to go along with Tony. The whole crew. His moves this offseason directly hampered the potential of this team. I am NOT in favor of bringing in any coach without a GM. We lived that nightmare for way too long to go back. We need a tandem new coach and GM.
Rough day for the 'Suck for Luck' contingent (myself included) as KC, Indy, and Minny all lost by 3 points. Those 3 win today and we are in far better position.
I agree, this team deserves what their gettin, they couldn't find the reserve to come together on their own...doesn't mean how they were treated before they played a game this season was right... If one doesn't think our stadium poses a disadvantage to our team, they choose not to look deeply into the situation.. We need a coach that can first overcome the disadvantages that the players are dealing with in this town and in that stadium..Must have the charisma to get them to be completely focused.. it is an issue that the next coach and regime will have to deal with..
On the other hand, you look at it and Indianapolis continues to get better each week. Their 3 point loss came to the Steelers. The Chiefs also took a big step forward this week, and their 3 point loss came at the hands of the Chargers. The Vikings lost their second heartbreaker in as many weeks, this time to the unbeaten Lions, and last week to the 2-1 Buccaneers who also just beat the Falcons. So there's definitely a silver lining. Miami just seems to be getting worse. Their margin of victory was closest today it's been in any of the three losses, but I think most would argue it was the Dolphins' worst team performance to date and the strength of the opponent was not nearly what it was against Houston or New England.
See now it's stuff like that, I don't get statements like that. You're basically leaving no room for disagreement with you at all. There's no legitimate difference of opinion, because if someone disagrees with you it means they just "aren't looking deeply enough into the situation" (whatever that means). It reminds me of all the times you insisted that people that disagreed with you about this regime are just ignorant of the normal timeline of a rebuilding process.
Its common knowledge at this point, that's my opinion on the situation, I absolutely 100 percent agree that it is an issue, key word, ''issue''.... anyone can feel free to disagree.. The 4 year plan was specific for this team...devoid of talent, first time coach, first time GM, first time owner, first pick in the draft is where I came to that conclusion..never used the word ''ignorant'' on that subject, always used the words ''not fair''.. '' Its not about us or the stadium and history has already proven it over and over....'' That is the statement that I responding to...doesn't seem like there's to much room for disagreement in it.
Actually yeah you did use the word ignorant in almost word-for-word the exact manner I said. But it's not important. I just don't see the need to position things that way.
