Bess Won't Give Up 15

"flynryan151 wrote:

Marshall has 3 straight years of 100+ reception seasons. Call me crazy but I'm going to go out on a limb and say a few were on 3rd down. Marshall is a beast! Bess isn't even avg if he weren't a Dolphin none of us would talk about him!

I disagree with Bess being below average. I don't think he's amazing or anything, but a very solid player and a great contributor. The guy is money on 3rd downs.

You are right though, we probably wouldn't talk about him. But who do you know that talks about all the solid players from around the league?

Bess is just pissed because he isn't our best WR anymore. I hope that he can buy 85 off of sperry

"High Definition wrote:

Haynos needs to be the target... #81 is the perfect look for a WR of his build.

85 would look good. 80 or 81. Fitzgerald wears 11. Andre wears 80 and Calvin wears 81. #11 was pretty popular for a while for #1 WRs. The number doesn't make the player, no matter what he ends up with.

lol @ people thinking Marshall is the #1 guy in this team. You guys need a serious reality check, no team in this league builds around a wide receiver. In this offense it has always been about the running game and I don't see it changing for anything. Marshall opens up the running game even more, so look for gaping holes for Ronnie and Ricky. This team will be rushing the ball like they always have. Just wait till the season starts and they start asking Belicheck, Ryan, and other head coaches about their game plan to stop the offense. They will mention Ronnie and Ricky more than our receivers.

"dolpns13 wrote:

thats pretty ****** up for you to joke about bro

very, very true

This happened to Jeff Feagles twice. I forget who, but he got a nice vacation to a tropical island and a very, very nice grill out of it. No joke.

"anlgp wrote:

This happened to Jeff Feagles twice. I forget who, but he got a nice vacation to a tropical island and a very, very nice grill out of it. No joke.

#10 Eli Manning
#17 Plaxico Burress

He can get #15 easily when Bess is traded for draft picks!
On a more serious note, number 88 would be nice for him.

Ahhhhh, agents........ They know just what to say, don't they? Seriously though, if BM really wants #15, do you think the Dolphins FO is not going to give it to him? IMO this is just a case of an agent not knowing when to STFU...

If Bess keeps this crap up, trade his ass.

Give the # to Marshall. No ifs, ands, or but's about it. Period.

Bess does not have the rank to be making demands. If Bess doesn't like it, be an elite WR for the Miami Dolphins like Marshall is, then you can demand stuff.

Until then, STFU Bess or GTFO.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

wow, im actually kind of annoyed by this. Yeah bess, your a fan favorite. But you're also kind of a nobody whose not capable of doing half the things Marshall is.

Im probably in the minority here, but I think Bess earned his number, and he was here before Marshall. The man is entitled to his number.

"electrolyte wrote:

If Bess keeps this crap up, trade his ass.

Give the # to Marshall. No ifs, ands, or but's about it. Period.

Bess does not have the rank to be making demands. If Bess doesn't like it, be an elite WR for the Miami Dolphins like Marshall is, then you can demand stuff.

Until then, STFU Bess or GTFO.

wrong.

It's Bess's number. PERIOD. and he's not going anywhere.

looks like this is Marshall's first oppritunity to show some maturity and that he can be a good teammate.

Talk to Bess, see if he can persuade him (with large sums of that new money) but if not, just move on to another number.....

I hope that Marshall moves on to 85....don't know why but that's the number I think would fit him.

Here's the deal.....get Fasano to change to 88 (his college number) then Sperry to 80 (his college number) and BM can have 85.

Our two new stars would then be
58 Dansby
85 Marshall

....I love it when a plan comes together!! ;)

"dolpns13 wrote:

Who's arguing? Im just talkin ma man... This is between Bess and Marshall.. And if Marshall cries enough about it, I am sure Sparano will tell Bess he has to change his number.

Do you really wanna set that kind of precedent with a brand new possibly "diva" receiver?

You can't just give the favorite what he wants, when he wants it, just cause he cries about it.

If Sparano forces Bess to hand over his number, I am not sure that will breed the kind of locker room atmosphere you would want your team to have.

"Gitrdone wrote:

He can get #15 easily when Bess is traded for draft picks!
On a more serious note, number 88 would be nice for him.

88 would be a great choice :)

"electrolyte wrote:

If Bess keeps this crap up, trade his ass.

Give the # to Marshall. No ifs, ands, or but's about it. Period.

Bess does not have the rank to be making demands. If Bess doesn't like it, be an elite WR for the Miami Dolphins like Marshall is, then you can demand stuff.

Until then, STFU Bess or GTFO.

Dude, Bess battled as an undrafted free agent, worked his ass off in camp and earned a spot on the team, then went on to be a solid semi-star for us for the last 2 years. If Bess doesn't want to give up his number, he shouldn't have to. First come, first served.

"Killerphins wrote:

listen to yourselves
arguing over jersey numbers
bess will still catch plenty of footballs and move the chains

I would imagine he will be catching even more footballs now. I know it was a long time ago guys, but remember when Bess was even doubled up? :shifty:

Bess will now be in the perfect position to become a Welker type. With Brandon being our Moss (obviously not saying Brandon is Moss just saying he is OUR Moss) Davone will be a lot more ignored than he was before.

"jupiterfin wrote:

Dude, Bess battled as an undrafted free agent, worked his ass off in camp and earned a spot on the team, then went on to be a solid semi-star for us for the last 2 years. If Bess doesn't want to give up his number, he shouldn't have to. First come, first served.

Good for him. I like Bess, always have.

but facts are facts -

Bess is a below average WR. He is in no position to make demands.

Marshall is a Top 3 WR, he is the greatest WR we have had in Miami since maybe Paul Waurfield. He is also a headcase, diva, 1 infraction away from being suspended for 1 year.

Give the damn number to Marshall, NOW.

Bess is mature, he can handle it.

Marshall is LEARNING to be mature. Don't confront him with a huge EGO battle between him and Bess BEFORE TRAINING CAMP EVEN BEGINS!!

Bess needs to be the bigger man and give up his number so Marshall has no problems with his transition to his new team. Then we can mature him and bring him along slowly.

you know what they should do? Race for it. 40 yds. Winner gets it.

That would instantly make them both cooler IMO, if that's how they settled it.

I still think #80 would like the nicest. Always reminds me of Andre.

"electrolyte wrote:

Good for him. I like Bess, always have.

but facts are facts -

Bess is a below average WR. He is in no position to make demands.

Marshall is a Top 3 WR, he is the greatest WR we have had in Miami since maybe Paul Waurfield. He is also a headcase, diva, 1 infraction away from being suspended for 1 year.

Give the damn number to Marshall, NOW.

Bess is mature, he can handle it.

Marshall is LEARNING to be mature. Don't confront him with a huge EGO battle between him and Bess BEFORE TRAINING CAMP EVEN BEGINS!!

Bess needs to be the bigger man and give up his number so Marshall has no problems with his transition to his new team. Then we can mature him and bring him along slowly.

So you're advocating making one player seem more important than the other? That goes against everything this team stands for. It's the exact reason Marshall and Dansby didn't have press confrences announcing their arrival. It's a team of 53, not 1 and to just rip away Bess' number and give it to the new guy, smacks of favortism.

If Bess wants to keep the number he's worn for 2 years, he should be allowed to.

"electrolyte wrote:

Good for him. I like Bess, always have.

but facts are facts -

Bess is a below average WR. He is in no position to make demands.
Marshall is a Top 3 WR, he is the greatest WR we have had in Miami since maybe Paul Waurfield. He is also a headcase, diva, 1 infraction away from being suspended for 1 year.

Give the damn number to Marshall, NOW.

Bess is mature, he can handle it.

Marshall is LEARNING to be mature. Don't confront him with a huge EGO battle between him and Bess BEFORE TRAINING CAMP EVEN BEGINS!!

Bess needs to be the bigger man and give up his number so Marshall has no problems with his transition to his new team. Then we can mature him and bring him along slowly.

he's not below average....28 WR's were target 100+ times last season and Bess had the 3rd highest catch % among them. He's not elite, and I'm not saying he's in BM category, but below average is an insult and inaccurate.

and he's not making demands.

he's simply keeping his number.

btw - I don't know why but your avatar is somewhat disturbing....is that Nicolas Cage playing Andre the Giant??

"electrolyte wrote:

Good for him. I like Bess, always have.

but facts are facts -

Bess is a below average WR. He is in no position to make demands.

Marshall is a Top 3 WR, he is the greatest WR we have had in Miami since maybe Paul Waurfield. He is also a headcase, diva, 1 infraction away from being suspended for 1 year.

Give the damn number to Marshall, NOW.

Bess is mature, he can handle it.

Marshall is LEARNING to be mature. Don't confront him with a huge EGO battle between him and Bess BEFORE TRAINING CAMP EVEN BEGINS!!

Bess needs to be the bigger man and give up his number so Marshall has no problems with his transition to his new team. Then we can mature him and bring him along slowly.

Marshall haven't asked for the number. It was Bess' agent who commented about the numbers not Bess himself.

By the way, Bess is not below average receiver. Anyone who think this did not watch Miami games last two years.

"electrolyte wrote:

If Bess keeps this crap up, trade his ass.

Give the # to Marshall. No ifs, ands, or but's about it. Period.

Bess does not have the rank to be making demands. If Bess doesn't like it, be an elite WR for the Miami Dolphins like Marshall is, then you can demand stuff.

Until then, STFU Bess or GTFO.

You can't be serious here. He was asked a question, he answered it. He didn't say he wouldn't give up his number for the right price, but he didn't want to make an issue out of it.

What demands has Bess made? Did you hear the interview?

Brandon Marshalls 40 = 4.56
Davone Bess' 40 = 4.64

Seriously, that's pretty neck and neck. They should race for it!