Ben volin..." The dolphins have nothing to worry about".. Cap situation.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

I really hope Brent Grimes is in the team's long term plans; provided he's healthy.

Yeah, health is the key there. I'd like to think that Jamar Taylor is holding down at least 1 starting spot moving forward. I'd also like to think Will Davis is the nickel CB of the future. We'll see what they think of some other guys. R.J. Stanford and De'Andre Presley both seem similar to some of the project CBs the Bengals kept around; sometimes for too long, including Morgan Trent, Brandon Ghee, Adam Jones (he worked out), Rico Murray (special teams stud for a year then got hurt, then faded), and Tom Nelson (converted to safety and was a practice squad guy).

If Grimes can prove he's healthy and doesn't have any setbacks, I think they'll re-sign him. I think a lot of it depends on what they do with Richard Marshall and Dimitri Patterson. Who stays? Who guys? How do they play in 2013?

"padre31 wrote:

Kind of an interesting point, what if this draft was about acquiring players to replace most of the 1 yr fA contract players in 2014?

Louis=Thomas
Keller=Sims
Grimes=Taylor

etc

If they were really doing that I think TE would have been higher. They would have also targeted DT and FS.

I do have to give Ireland credit for those 1 year deals though. He took advantage of a buyers market to basically rent players and keep his options open.

"GMJohnson wrote:

Not unless the rookies come into camp and beat them out. Even then it'd be nice to keep Marshall b/c of his versatility. Either way I love the depth and the competition. 3 vets in Grimes, Patterson and Marsh who know they need to perform at a high level in order to keep their jobs. Carroll and Wilson are young guys who've had a fair shot, time to sheeit or get off the pot. And then 3 rooks who have a slew of vets ahead of them and will have to earn every snap they get. These guys won't just be competing for playing time, they'll be competing for practice reps and even special teams jobs. Gotta love that.

I think the hope is that if the rookies play well and the vets are all solid....that they can turn around and force Patterson or Marshall to basically reduce their base salary by a lot by saying they will keep 1. Reduce em to a million plus incentives. Do it late enough in the pre-season where there is no chance for them to get anything but a vet min deal if they were cut. One will bite.

"smahtaz wrote:

I'm going to miss BennyV. Fargin traitor.

Where's he going?

"KingMotion wrote:

Who says Sims is supposed to be the Keller replacement? We may have that faith in Clay or Egnew. Sims is more likely our Fasano replacement.

That's my point as well (I noted that).

But, to your question - read the thread. Post #4 from Padre (might help ... ;) )

Padre:
Kind of an interesting point, what if this draft was about acquiring players to replace most of the 1 yr fA contract players in 2014?

Louis=Thomas
Keller=Sims
Grimes=Taylor

etc

That's what I was responding to. Padre continued it later thinking that Sims is going to whittle down to 255. Even if he does (which I don't think he will - I think they will keep him in the 260, down from the 280 he played at when at MSU area and be primarily a blocker) - he still doesn't have the speed and athleticism that Keller does. That was my point.

"Da 'Fins wrote:

Where's he going?

Boston Globe, I believe.

"phinsational wrote:

We should have roughly $38 million in cap space in 2014 after cutting Carpenter ($2.7M) this year and then Patterson ($5.4M), Marshall ($5.35M), and Garner ($1.5M) next year.

If next year we can further trim Moore ($4.0M), Vaughn Martin ($2.2M), and Trusnik (905k) we'd be up to $45 million..... and if 2 of the 3 guards out of Jerry, Lance Louis, and Dallas Thomas can step up in preseason to make Incognito expendable that's an additional $4.3 million to carry over. It'd be quite nice to have nearly $50 million available next year.

That's plenty of room to extend or re-sign Clabo, Grimes, and Louis if they're having good years, throw a nice contract at Reshad Jones, and work on upgrading FS with Jairus Byrd and/or Geno Atkins at DT. We need 2 DTs, but we have the flexibility of moving Odrick inside should a better closed end option present itself in FA or the draft.

It's a long ways away but I'd be looking at:
RT- re-sign Clabo
RG- re-sign Louis
DT- Geno Atkins (probably wouldn't mind being reunited with an ex Cincy defensive coach)
DT- move Odrick inside
RDE- draft Stephon Tuitt who fits the Calais Campbell, JJ Watt, Mario Williams type jumbo athletic end mold (even if a trade up is needed)
FS- Byrd
SS- re-sign Jones
CB- re-sign Grimes if there's enough room
TE- hopefully Sims, Egnew, and Clay step up and make TE a non FA priority

nice plan, i don't think geno atkins won't be a free agent, he will be franchised for sure

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Where's he going?

"Stitches wrote:

Boston Globe, I believe.

:tantrum:

"Alex13 wrote:

you really think Geno Atkins will be a FA ?, he will be franchised for sure

good point. oh well, plan B... whatever that is. lol

"phinsational wrote:

good point. oh well, plan B... whatever that is. lol

Plan B is Timmy Jernigan in the 2nd round.

Gotta make sure Sammy Watkins sucks ass this year so we can get him late in the first :yes:.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

All the good ones leave us eventually. Darlington and now Ben. Jackson is still solid though.

It's too bad we are stuck with Omar and Armando.

I like Omar. Armando though.....yikes.

"KingMotion wrote:

Who says Sims is supposed to be the Keller replacement? We may have that faith in Clay or Egnew. Sims is more likely our Fasano replacement.

At this point I have no faith in Clay or Egnew. Egnew hasn't sniffed the field yet and I haven't been impressed by Clay. I was surprised we didn't take a pass catching TE earlier.

"Xeticus wrote:

At this point I have no faith in Clay or Egnew. Egnew hasn't sniffed the field yet and I haven't been impressed by Clay. I was surprised we didn't take a pass catching TE earlier.

How much faith are you supposed to have in backup TE's?

we are going to need them though. Dustin Keller has injury concerns so i hope one of our backup TE's is up to snuff.

I would be shocked to see Starks depart. It really makes no sense. He's a perfect fit for our defense with his ability to rush the passer and stuff runs. Soliai is a one trick run stuffing pony that has less value in our nickel defense. I hope we kick Odrick inside this year to see what he can really do as a DT. Odrick feels like the perfect complement to Starks.

do we get comp picks if these 1 year deals go else where next season?

"Finatic wrote:

do we get comp picks if these 1 year deals go else where next season?

Good question. :unsure: