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Beck & Henne = Romo & Henson?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by vinivedivichi, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. vinivedivichi

    vinivedivichi New Member

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    I generally don't like these types of comparisons, as every situation/player is unique, but there certainly are some similarities. Henson and Henne seem to be Parcells guys...very "toolsy" quarterbacks, but fairly unproductive relative to their skill sets (with respect to Henne, this obviously only refers to his college game). I had heard conflicting reports in the past as to whether Romo was a Parcells guy or a Jones guy...anybody know for certain?

    This is subjective, but there's just something about Beck that I really like. I think once he gets comfortable enough and puts it all together, we'll have ourselves a quarterback. Although all the gurus are stating that Henne now inherits the Quarterback of the Future title, I tend to take our FO at face value with this pick. They like Henne, and they thought he was good value at the most important position in sports. I don't think this is any reflection on Beck, as my feeling is that they have hopes for Beck as well. Henne is a hedge, IMO.
     
  2. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It definately gives us all something to think about. Its hard to think that we would take Henne, and make statements about him starting as a Rookie if we were completely sold on Beck. I too like Beck, i think he has potential, and I'd like to see what he can do now with what appears to be a solid offensive line in front of him to give him some time to make decisions and throw. I like Henne too, he has a strong arm, and is a tough player. I think he has the potential to be great for us too.

    What I hope happens is that we hit training camp, and both guys are given an even and fair chance to win the starting job. Let them both play at times with the first team, lets see what theyre capable of in an even QB competition. Whoever goes out there and EARNS the job and gives us the best chance to WIN should get the job. I dont care if Beck is a holdover from the old regime, nor to I care if this new regime picked Henne. That should have no bearing in who is our starter come week one. In the end, all that really matters is winning games. I dont care who wins them at QB for us.. It could even be McCown for all i care.

    JUST WIN
     
  3. ryoung8918

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    Henson and Byron Leftwitch have basically the same problem to me. Slooooow releases. Both have guns for arms, but the ball takes too long to get out of their hands.
     
  4. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like Henne as a prospect but I'm worried about his slow release. He's also not as accurate as Beck. The one advantage Henne has over Beck is his thick frame. I could see Henne shrugging off some glancing shots that would take Beck down. And of course Henne appears to be more resistant to injury just based on that body type.
     
  5. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    henne will be fine we have one of the best qb coaches in the game and he turned tony romo a side arm slinger into one of the best qbs in the game

    i really like beck and i like henne the best man wins and iam not going to ***** with either one

    the one thing that does worry me about beck is taking shots i mean yeah we have an improved line but i dont want him to be a candle

    this is going to be fun
     
  6. alen1

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    If we manage to block the pass rushers, there will be no worries of his release so lets pray this O line shapes up and does work.
     
  7. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    I dont see the comparisons.Even though Parcells was involved in trading for Hensons rights he never really liked him.

    Henson had all of the measurables but he was flawed as a leader.He used to sweat profusely before a game and stutter out calls.Hardly a confidence builder for the rest of his teammates.

    Beck and Henne have all the leadership qualities required of a an NFL QB.

    They may be lacking in some of the measurables but I do believe one will rise up to
    to be our franchise QB.

    My bet is on Beck.He has a quick release and is accurate.He needs to learn to take care of the ball better
     
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  8. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    Flacco may turn out to be another Henson .Very quiet spoken .Few leadership skills
     
  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Really? Why? I really like Flacco.
     
  10. Ultra

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    I never got the feeling that Romo was a Parcell's guy. Romo is care free when he plays but was too good for BP to keep on the bench.
     
  11. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    He may turn out to be OK.

    Certainly he has a cannon of an arm but the NFL graveyard is littered with cannon arm QBs that didnt make it.

    I am not sying he will be a bust but the potential is there.Leadership skills may be one of the bust factors
     
  12. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Not a bad analogy. Henson and Henne are both immobile QB's with good arms from Michigan. Romo and Beck not as similar though they are in similar position.

    Romo was a Jerry Jones/Sean Payton guy and Parcells absolutely refused to start Romo from the beginning. From what I gather, Parcells did not want him despite QB coaches like Sean Payton really clamoring to give him a chance. When he became the Saints HC, Sean Payton even offered a 3rd round pick that Parcells wanted but was denied because of Jerry Jones. Romo was about to be cut until Quincy Carter got allegations of substance abuse. Think about that. Parcells wanted Hutchinson, Carter, Testaverde, and Bledsoe over Romo. He only relented on Tony after Bledsoe went down and Carter went in a puff of smoke. I wouldn't doubt that if the second Romo faltered that year, Parcells would yank his leash harder than Michael Vick and his dogs. That has me concerned about Parcells ability to judge QB's.
     
  13. vinivedivichi

    vinivedivichi New Member

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    Very interesting...

    The one reason the Henne pick somewhat bothers me is that I fear it means Beck no longer gets a fair shot. He no longer receives the benefit of the doubt. I would imagine Henne is a longshot to start this year, but with Henne waiting in the wings Beck had better not play like a rookie when he gets his opportunity this year.

    I hope that our coaches will objectively evaluate our quarterbacks and start whoever deserves it.
     
  14. adamprez2003

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    I always had the same feeling
     
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    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    :sidelol::sidelol:
    Parcells ability to judge QBs or WRs is not his strongest suit but he's pretty good at the rest
     
  16. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Yea, he's not bad when it comes to the DL and OL. But he really should just let his QB coaches and WR coaches have full authority because he's just not very good at judging in those positions.
     
  17. inFINSible

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    If we manage to block the pass rush, maybe Beck won't be in such a hurry to get the ball from center and he won't take the blindside hits, both of which were the main causes of his ball security issues. Shoot, it might even help him stay injury free.

    If the o-line can give the long winding slow decision making Henne real NFL skills, I can start salivating over what it could do for the quick release and great decision making that Beck already has.
     
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  18. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Changing the release point and changing the wind-up are two different things. Release points are often changed quickly. Wind-ups, on the other hand, usually take much longer to change (if they ever are). Henne's release is slow. It's not as bad as Leftwich's, but otherwise they are similar QBs. Both have strong arms and are immobile. BL is a little more accurate. Henne's release is less slow. That's my biggest concern.
     
  19. FinFan_Est.1984

    FinFan_Est.1984 Get Aggressive!!!

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    Beck is a year ahead of Henne in development, is more accurate and has a very quick release. The only thing that Henne (6'2" 226 lbs) has over Beck (6'2" 216 lbs) is his physical frame and that equals out because Henne is not as mobile as Beck. I believe that Beck's work ethic and drive will put him over the top and he will be our signal caller come game 1 of the regular season. He has already changed his delivery from the 3/4 to the proper technique with the help of David Lee.
     
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  20. Themole

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    Yeah, according to JB, it wasn't that difficult to correct. He said (in one of the videos) he developed that bad habit when he sustained a shoulder injury in college and the BYU coaches never attempted to correct it. It was just a matter of going back and retraining muscle memory to the way he used to throw.
     
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