Barry Jackson sports buzz: new chatter says Dolphins knew about Martin's issues

GM's pick their own capologists. Besides what good would it do to fire Jeff Ireland and keep all of his cronies around? Get rid of them all.

 

this. Not only that but Martin's disability has to be recognized by the ADA.

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I believe the only way he could qualify is if he were diagnosed with an episodic impairment like bipolar or major depressive disorder, but considering Martin has no prior history of such affecting his life [that I've heard of] to establish it as being "episodic", nor previously displayed anything affecting his ability to play football or perform his role as an offensive tackle, plua notched a clean pre-draft psyche evaluation, I'd say he wouldn't qualify for ADA privileges.

 

I'm not sure its fair to say she is a Parcells acolyte. Obviously he hired her, but I don't think her working relationship with Parcells has much history. In terms of media policy, all that has to happen is Ross tells her that he wants the policy to change.

From every indication, Aponte is highly regarded by the league, and people involved with the league. In terms of credibility, I'm not sure there is anyone that has more than her.

 

Dawn Aponte is not Jeff Ireland's crony by any means. I'm also not sure its fair to label her a "capologist". Further, I'm not sure any GM has the financial background and expertise to evaluate her.

 

I'm also guessing that the feuding between Aponte and Ireland will come up in the report. Either way I can't find any reason why they should keep her post Ireland. She's a Parcells wannabe, I'm done with those.

 

Why in the world would any of that come up in an investigation regarding Jon Martin?

What in the world leads you to believe she is a Parcells "wannabe"?

 

So what role would she have? She won't be the GM and she won't be the capologist. So what the hell is the point in keeping her around?

 

What do you think Dawn Aponte's current job entails?

 

It shows dysfunction at the top. The Herald labeled her a Parcells wannabe.

 

If Ross is going to do this then he should do it right and wipe out the entire front office. Firing one guy won't make a big difference.

 

I certainly do not agree with the Miami Herald if they truly said that. They are completely different. One has the background of a football coach, the other has a background in finance, accounting, and law.

 

It was public when the lady made a police report.

 

I think it's because of her goofy media policies.

 

What exactly are her policies? Did she create these policies, or were they inherited? Its a leap IMO to suggest that she shares the same media policies as Bill Parcells.

 

Once again, according to the Herald she believes in all of the Parcells media stupidity.

 

Every soccer mom in America thinks you're a big fat jerk for that opinion. Including Ross.

We should have let him start of he was so upset. We're so mean.

 

Thats a ridiculous claim.

 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2012/10/08/Game-Changers/Dawn-Aponte.aspx

 

This has been nothing but leaps in logic based on assumptions made by our horrible local media.

This whole thing is a joke

 

"Would re-signing Jake Long have helped this situation? A source close to multiple Dolphins said no, adding that Long witnessed Incognito’s teasing of Martin and never intervened. “It was a pack mentality,” the source said. “These players would rather be on Richie’s side.”

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Interesting, I would have thought the opposite.

 

Its a pretty big reach to suggest that because Parcells provided her opportunity, she's going to push for every policy he pushed for. Their expertise is pretty much polar opposite.

 

It's also a big reach to pretend that Parcells just gave her a job one time and had no further involvement whatsoever.

 

No I'm assuming a Psych eval would have been able to pinpoint that he might be susceptible to not being able to cope with stress or any other potential mental issues. You're assuming that everything was fine with him til he joined the Dolphins locker room.

 

Involvement in what? She pretty much was operating in a capacity that Parcells had very little knowledge of.

 

It is amazing how many assumptions you make while disparaging others for making what you see as assumptions.

 

What assumptions am I making?

 

Some Hannibal Lecter level analysis going on in some of these posts. Read half of these with the Red Dragon theme playing in my head.

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While I made some comments regarding this issue when it first came out. I think now so many different stories have emerged from each side, we should all just wait until the actual investigation is completed and see what actual facts come out in the investigation.

Right now we all merely forming opinions based on reports which may or may not have any validity once the truth comes out.

I don't expect Martin or Incognito to ever play for the Dolphins again. So my concern is more about what the future of this team is than it is about how this matter will eventually turn out.

My hope is that Incognito is able to resume his career in the NFL once the investigation is complete, if he is cleared of the claims against him.

As far as Martin, I never though he was a good player to begin with, but I hope he resolves his personal issues and is able to find happiness outside football. He appears to have the intelligence to be successful beyond the NFL, but he obviously isn't suited for the stress involved in playing professional football.

 

I was thinking today that there were shades of Dimitrius Underwood in this story... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood

And here Martin's Dad is saying that Martin is fine and is a "Strong Man" to some dubious reporter... http://omg.yahoo.com/video/johnathan-martin-father-speaks-alleged-221807751.html

 

Well, you see…

… You've assumed that Parcells knows nothing about Aponte's job or jobs despite hiring her, yet you've turned around and assumed that Aponte knows something about Parcells'. You have built Dawn Aponte up into an NFL Ubermensch that fuses a finance degree with the ability to settle lawsuits out of court and competence in scouting that she has no background in. You call this skillset rare. I call it made up by someone who appears to be more interested in defending whoever happens to be working for one of his favorite sports teams than in anything else.

The Cleveland Browns thought Dawn Aponte's skillset was so rare, unique, and excellent that they essentially traded her to us for Matt Thomas—Thomas took Aponte's former job and vice-versa.

If another NFL team wants Aponte, whether as a capologist—her role in Cleveland, so I don't know why you think the term was disparaging to her—or as a CFO or as a GM, they can have her. Her alleged wizardry has not improved anything about this franchise.

 

I think you can infer from this quote that Philbin's approach to the media changed with Aponte's influence, and Philbin's approach to the media with hsi terseness and combatitiveness is very Parcells like.

 

No, I didn't assume Parcells knows nothing about Aponte's job. I said he's not qualified. He isn't an accountant, nor a lawyer, nor does he have an MBA. I have a hard time believing Bill Parcells has the requisite knowledge to build a model projecting the effects of say, including offset language in contracts. I don't think he has the background to understand complex financial concepts.

Further, I never suggested that she has any competence in scouting. She does have competence in football, certainly enough to be named to the Board of Directors of USA Football. The simple fact that she has worked in the NFL for 20 years is more than enough amble evidence of her background in football. These things aren't made up, these are facts. She knows more about football than Bill Parcells does about finance.

In regards to your claim that I'm interested in defending whomever happens to be working for the Dolphins, thats categorically false. I've ripped on plenty of people working for the organization. What I don't do is project anger on to everyone associated with the organization, simply because I lack critical thinking skills.

 

Conversely, I have a hard time believing that Parcells was in a position to hire someone without knowing what their job entailed and how they went about doing it. Parcells does not need an MBA to know what Aponte is doing. He might need one to know how, but that isn't the issue.

Taking a part-time executive job in youth football is not the same as having NFL caliber football evaluation and identification skills.

Aponte's resume is impressive. Her job performance, based on available information, not so much.

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

Thats pretty much my point? Her combination of financial, legal, accounting, and football expertise is very rare.

What exactly are we basing her performance off of?

 

Yup. The business side's offices were moved to Sun Life Stadium, which made things quite difficult for the PR and multimedia folks. Save for the Finsiders show, the rest of those folks have to shuffle back and forth between the stadium and team headquarters to do their jobs.

It's a good thing they did their due diligence and let this guy thru. Then again, when was the last time the cartel rejected a prospective buyer?

Another thing I'd heard during the previous Sparano era was that moral was quite low in the building due to Ross' -- if you can believe this -- micromanagement from afar. Some of the things he did and the logic applied simply didn't make sense, nor did they work.

I'm afraid we are simply cursed until this guy sells the team. If we win it will be despite him, save for his deep pockets (give him credit, he spends willingly). He is well intentioned but he just doesn't 'get it'. Robert Kraft makes the Patriots his priority. He's there. Stephen Ross lives and works in Manhattan. If he's not going to sell, appoint a consigliere (thanks BDH!) and move back like Georgia Frontiere. That's not going to happen tho. He bought his team. She inherited hers from her 6th husband.

As for Dawn Aponte and the media, it all depends on the next hire(s) made. If the next coach and/or GM is open with the media, then they'll be open with the media. Stephen Ross definitely wants the organization to be media friendly, so he's certainly not going to push back in that regard.

 

What football expertise are you talking about? She hasn't been a part of a winning organization since the 2007 Jets. She was fired from the Jets and she was kicked out of Cleveland. Don't make her to be something she's not.

 

Was he also benched? I thought he was still a starter when he went AWOL.

 

Who in the NFL hasn't been fired?

Her expertise is derived from her working in the NFL for 20 yrs. 15 of which were for the league.

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She hasn't been part of a winning team in 6 years. She should go back to working for the league because she's had no success anywhere else.

 

How are you defining and measuring her success exactly?

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