Baker mayfield.

Check out Matt Waldman's videos on YouTube, he has a couple breakdowns of this year's QBs. He concisely goes over their strengths and weaknesses. It really scared me away from Josh Allen and warmed me up to Lamar Jackson. I also got to see a Northwestern RB, last name Jackson, on his channel who I hadn't really paid attention to.

It's good YouTube content. No fluff, just tape-watching with a guy who's done it for awhile.

I like Lamar Jackson or Baker Mayfield.

Browns have a QB too.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Four QBs will go before we pick - Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield and Allen.

Good for us since we already have a QB. Means we will get a top 7 positional player.

I wouldn't be dissapointed if we moved up for mayfield and traded tannehill.But that is just me.

Lets not turn this into another tannehill thread I am just stating my opinion.

"pumpdogs wrote:

I wouldn't be dissapointed if we moved up for mayfield and traded tannehill.But that is just me.

Me neither, I want a QB who can take our team to the next level. Nothing wrong with looking to upgrade EVERY position that can be and QB for Miami can be upgraded.

"pumpdogs wrote:

I wouldn't be dissapointed if we moved up for mayfield and traded tannehill.But that is just me.

Moving up is expensive.

Hey, maybe we can trade Kiko and Pouncey to move up?

Na, what organization would be that stupid?

STOP, STOP, STOP were going to be no where close to getting a top QB when we draft. If they wanted one of the top5 available they should have lost when it mattered. Instead we won meaningless games in terms of draft. Of course players are playing for jobs but the coach could have put in backups and did some talent eval and they didnt.

Could we move up? Sure but what do you have to offer we would have to sell the future to get high enough. Unless you trade away mutliplekey positions. Like SUH and Ryan for our 1st to get to 3-4.

If one of them happens to fall we still wonttake on in the first round. Were going defense I bet.

"Fin-O wrote:

Moving up is expensive.

Hey, maybe we can trade Kiko and Pouncey to move up?

Na, what organization would be that stupid?

What would Tannehill net in a trade to move up in your opinion? Not saying it will happen, I highly doubt it but what would you get? Personally, I think guys like Cousins and Garoppolo would net more in a trade to move up but some team out there may want Tannehill right?

"Fin-O wrote:

Moving up is expensive.

Hey, maybe we can trade Kiko and Pouncey to move up?

Na, what organization would be that stupid?

I don't remember what did it cost the eagles to move up from 8 to 2 after our stupid trade with them?

"shamegame13 wrote:

What would Tannehill net in a trade to move up in your opinion? Not saying it will happen, I highly doubt it but what would you get? Personally, I think guys like Cousins and Garoppolo would net more in a trade to move up but some team out there may want Tannehill right?

I think we could get a 2nd rounder for him.

"shamegame13 wrote:

What would Tannehill net in a trade to move up in your opinion? Not saying it will happen, I highly doubt it but what would you get? Personally, I think guys like Cousins and Garoppolo would net more in a trade to move up but some team out there may want Tannehill right?

I think the knee concerns (yes, it goes through teams heads when investing in a player) and the fact that he is 30 means we wouldn’t be happy with the compensation regardless, so it is best to keep him.

We would get low-balled below his projected worth.

A first would be totally out of the question, imo.

I’m guessing we could get a 3, which certainly isn’t worth it imo.

And before anyone tries to use the Sam Bradford barometer? That was an isolated case of obvious desperation for a team who lost there starter late. (See Jay Cutler)

"Fin-O wrote:

I think the knee concerns (yes, it goes through teams heads when investing in a player) and the fact that he is 30 means we wouldn’t be happy with the compensation regardless, so it is best to keep him.

We would get low-balled below his projected worth.

A first would be totally out of the question, imo.

I’m guessing we could get a 3, which certainly isn’t worth it imo.

And before anyone tries to use the Sam Bradford barometer? That was an isolated case of obvious desperation for a team who lost there starter late. (See Jay Cutler)

I think Tannehill and our #11 can move us to #4.... Browns are idiots so.... Although I personally rather stay at 11, Keep Tannehill for 2018 and draft Lamar Jackson if he’s there. An Elite QB can do wonders for an organization.

I'm not impressed with Mayfield. I don't think his game translates well to the pro's and he has a very average arm.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

That's not what I'm doing. Just tell me how you intend to use Mayfield, how does he fit with the pieces we currently have? It's tiring seeing suggestions of certain players just because they've had success elsewhere. We need a plan. I have one with Tannehill, and I could come up with one for Mayfield, but I need to see WHY he'll be successful and not just another Gabbert, Locker, Ponder, Manuel, Smith, Henne, etc.

I actually wasn't saying u were turning this into a tannehill.I was talking to eveyone that this was not my intention.
As for mayfield I love his improvisation skills.Using his feet to keep plays alive.
Accuracy is good on every throw I saw from short to deep.No hesitation to pull the trigger is what I also love because (now this is the gamble to me )bUT could also make him great his swagger!
He is a gamble no doubt but sometimes you.need to take a chance if you see greatness.What do the Dolphins see we won't know until draft day.

"hitman8 wrote:

I'm not impressed with Mayfield. I don't think his game translates well to the pro's and he has a very average arm.

Who do you.like if anybody?

"shamegame13 wrote:

I think Tannehill and our #11 can move us to #4.... Browns are idiots so.... Although I personally rather stay at 11, Keep Tannehill for 2018 and draft Lamar Jackson if he’s there. An Elite QB can do wonders for an organization.

Yea I am not big fan of jackson.I just don't see with his frame he will last in this league being a running qb.

"shamegame13 wrote:

I think Tannehill and our #11 can move us to #4.... Browns are idiots so.... Although I personally rather stay at 11, Keep Tannehill for 2018 and draft Lamar Jackson if he’s there. An Elite QB can do wonders for an organization.

Yea but they are likely going QB 1 overall, so losing out on a premium position player would be strange.

I think they end up Darnold/Barkley if I had to guess today.

"pumpdogs wrote:

Yea I am not big fan of jackson.I just don't see with his frame he will last in this league being a running qb.

Players get bigger in the NFL, he’s not Pat White, you’ll be able to pack on to his frame. Hence, Keep Tannehill for 2018 while he hits the weight room.

I hate the “running QB” thing too, he passes the ball extremely well. Just because he can run like a RB shouldn’t be a knock on him... wtf?!? Lmao

"Fin-O wrote:

Yea but they are likely going QB 1 overall, so losing out on a premium position player would be strange.

I think they end up Darnold/Barkley if I had to guess today.

I think as of right now they go Saquon #1 and QB #4... NYG is booked into Rosen (who will not play for Browns anyways) and IND don’t need a QB but could use Saquon. This makes more sense for CLE but it’s CLE and nothing they do makes sense.

"shamegame13 wrote:

I think as of right now they go Saquon #1 and QB #4... NYG is booked into Rosen (who will not play for Browns anyways) and IND don’t need a QB but could use Saquon. This makes more sense for CLE

Whatever the Browns do I'm sure it will be the wrong moves.

"shamegame13 wrote:

Players get bigger in the NFL, he’s not Pat White, you’ll be able to pack on to his frame. Hence, Keep Tannehill for 2018 while he hits the weight room.

I hate the “running QB” thing too, he passes the ball extremely well. Just because he can run like a RB shouldn’t be a knock on him... wtf?!? Lmao

I think the knock on him is his accuracy. I have no problem with a QB at 11 if it is someone they are convinced about. I'd probably be happier with a defensive player, but it sure seems like a blue chip player will be there for us at 11

Cannot forget this offseason may see MULTIPLE good QB's on the free agent and trade blocks which could seriously disrupt things.

Kirk Cousins, Alex Smith, Eli Manning, Tyrod Taylor the Minnesota 3 ... all could end up filling holes of teams above us. For instance, if I am the Browns and Cousins hits FA? Offer him the farm, draft Barkley and Minkah and laugh to the bank.

That said, I think we have 5 legit first round talents at QB in the draft. This offseason could be a HUGE QB shakeup, and we might see teams with a "settled" but questionable situation drafting. Think teams like us (injury, averageness) or Saints (Brees' age). If Darnold does pop at 11, are we really going to say no?

As far as Mayfield, I am not a fan. He's just douchey, and his game reminds me of Manziel more than Brees/Wilson. He'd be last on my list of the big 5. Lamar Jackson I like a lot - he's a better Vick. Allen is a big bust potential, but damn his skillset ... Rosen and Darnold are the top 2 I think.

"LI phinfan wrote:

I think the knock on him is his accuracy. I have no problem with a QB at 11 if it is someone they are convinced about. I'd probably be happier with a defensive player, but it sure seems like a blue chip player will be there for us at 11

Every QB is flawed coming out every draft.