Armstead injures pectoral

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FinatikFinatikmoderatorOP
Nov 28, 2022, 11:59 AM

Dolphins left tackle Terron Armstead left Sunday’s win over the Texans with a pectoral injury and there was no immediate word about the severity of the injury after the game.

Head coach Mike McDaniel said at his press conference that Armstead needs to have the injury evaluated further by doctors on Monday before the team will have an idea about what it will mean for his availability moving forward. The injury happened in the first half and the Dolphins went up 30-0 before the break, but McDaniel said the injury was serious enough that Armstead would not have stayed in a closer game.

“That was an injury regardless of the score that was going to keep him out of the game,” McDaniel said, via Safid Deen of USA Today.

Right tackle Austin Jackson also suffered an ankle injury during the game, so the Dolphins will have plenty to monitor on the injury front heading into Week 13.

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Rick 1966Rick 1966forum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 12:11 PM

Ian Rappaport said it was a strain, not a tear.

FinatikFinatikmoderator
Nov 28, 2022, 12:24 PM

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Ian Rappaport said it was a strain, not a tear.

Well that's good news. The Niners game is NFC so if he needs that one off it's "less" important. We need him back for the Chargers.

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dolphin25dolphin25forum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 01:07 PM

"Finatik wrote:

Dolphins left tackle Terron Armstead left Sunday’s win over the Texans with a pectoral injury and there was no immediate word about the severity of the injury after the game.

Head coach Mike McDaniel said at his press conference that Armstead needs to have the injury evaluated further by doctors on Monday before the team will have an idea about what it will mean for his availability moving forward. The injury happened in the first half and the Dolphins went up 30-0 before the break, but McDaniel said the injury was serious enough that Armstead would not have stayed in a closer game.

“That was an injury regardless of the score that was going to keep him out of the game,” McDaniel said, via Safid Deen of USA Today.

Right tackle Austin Jackson also suffered an ankle injury during the game, so the Dolphins will have plenty to monitor on the injury front heading into Week 13.

I would not have started Jackson, team has been playing great without him

Lord help us.

FIFishheadforum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 07:28 PM

"dolphin25 wrote:

I would not have started Jackson, team has been playing great without him

I wouldn’t have started him either. Let him be depth for the rest of this year, then see if he can beat out whoever they bring in during the offseason.

OwesOwn614OwesOwn614forum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 08:04 PM

Not sure where to post this. Niners look to be missing Elijah Mitchell for the game.

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 08:29 PM

This may be an out there statement to make, but next to Tua, Terron Armstead is the most important player on the offensive unit.

The offensive line just seems to play at an entirely different level when he’s on the field. Tua hadn’t been sacked once while Armstead was on the field. He strains his pec, next thing you know there’s 5 sacks on the Dolphins QBs (Tua and Skylar). This just demonstrates his importance to the offense.

I can’t trust Grier to draft offensive linemen. He’s just a flat out bust in that regard, but if we can’t get the offensive line to a level that isn’t dependent on ONE player, the Dolphins offense is going to be hit and miss.

If the Bills lose Thursday night against the Patriots, I wouldn’t be too concerned about having Armstead on the field against the 49ers, but if they win, suck it up buttercup, we need to keep pace with Buffalo.

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TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 08:42 PM
"OwesOwn614 wrote:

Not sure where to post this. Niners look to be missing Elijah Mitchell for the game.

McCaffrey and Samuel are also banged up.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 09:40 PM

What are the options available in free agency? Because i dont trust whats behind him currently.

FIFirelandforum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 10:04 PM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

This may be an out there statement to make, but next to Tua, Terron Armstead is the most important player on the offensive unit.

The offensive line just seems to play at an entirely different level when he’s on the field. Tua hadn’t been sacked once while Armstead was on the field. He strains his pec, next thing you know there’s 5 sacks on the Dolphins QBs (Tua and Skylar). This just demonstrates his importance to the offense.

I can’t trust Grier to draft offensive linemen. He’s just a flat out bust in that regard, but if we can’t get the offensive line to a level that isn’t dependent on ONE player, the Dolphins offense is going to be hit and miss.

If the Bills lose Thursday night against the Patriots, I wouldn’t be too concerned about having Armstead on the field against the 49ers, but if they win, suck it up buttercup, we need to keep pace with Buffalo.

Well at least he drafted one good one so at least we have that going for us

OwesOwn614OwesOwn614forum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 10:06 PM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

What are the options available in free agency? Because i dont trust whats behind him currently.

mlb1399mlb1399forum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 10:30 PM
"OwesOwn614 wrote:

Really hope Armstead is only out 2-3 weeks. Couldn’t happen at a worse time with the pass rushes we’ll be facing. This is a good signing. Just need someone who doesn’t get Tua killed or can at least slow it down so McDaniels can scheme.

OwesOwn614OwesOwn614forum_veteran
Nov 28, 2022, 11:41 PM

"mlb1399 wrote:

Really hope Armstead is only out 2-3 weeks. Couldn’t happen at a worse time with the pass rushes we’ll be facing. This is a good signing. Just need someone who doesn’t get Tua killed or can at least slow it down so McDaniels can scheme.

Yeah, dealing with the Bosa brothers on back-to-back weeks is going to be a challenge for our OL. But they have to do it, so bring it on.

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Nov 29, 2022, 06:57 AM

I hate Tua having to play it so quickly, but if the improvised OL can just give Tagovailoa 2.5 seconds on every drop back, we’ll be ok…provided none of our next 3 opponents decide to play dirty and headhunt Tua.

That’s MY biggest concern…someone taking a CHEAP shot on him and ruining the rest of our season.

“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”

dolphin25dolphin25forum_veteran
Nov 29, 2022, 09:17 AM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

This may be an out there statement to make, but next to Tua, Terron Armstead is the most important player on the offensive unit.

The offensive line just seems to play at an entirely different level when he’s on the field. Tua hadn’t been sacked once while Armstead was on the field. He strains his pec, next thing you know there’s 5 sacks on the Dolphins QBs (Tua and Skylar). This just demonstrates his importance to the offense.

I can’t trust Grier to draft offensive linemen. He’s just a flat out bust in that regard, but if we can’t get the offensive line to a level that isn’t dependent on ONE player, the Dolphins offense is going to be hit and miss.

If the Bills lose Thursday night against the Patriots, I wouldn’t be too concerned about having Armstead on the field against the 49ers, but if they win, suck it up buttercup, we need to keep pace with Buffalo.

I agree. One could argue that Armstead is the MVP of the team based on what we saw and have seen when he is out.

Lord help us.

FIFishheadforum_veteran
Nov 29, 2022, 09:27 AM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

This may be an out there statement to make, but next to Tua, Terron Armstead is the most important player on the offensive unit.

The offensive line just seems to play at an entirely different level when he’s on the field. Tua hadn’t been sacked once while Armstead was on the field. He strains his pec, next thing you know there’s 5 sacks on the Dolphins QBs (Tua and Skylar). This just demonstrates his importance to the offense.

Not that far out considering the difference in the offense when he’s playing and when he’s not. You’d then have to put Tyreek a close third.

PS. Since they’re circling the drain, I wonder what the Texans would want for that Tunsil fella. I hear he’s pretty good.

SpringveldtSpringveldtforum_veteran
Nov 29, 2022, 11:32 AM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

This may be an out there statement to make, but next to Tua, Terron Armstead is the most important player on the offensive unit.

The offensive line just seems to play at an entirely different level when he’s on the field. Tua hadn’t been sacked once while Armstead was on the field. He strains his pec, next thing you know there’s 5 sacks on the Dolphins QBs (Tua and Skylar). This just demonstrates his importance to the offense.

I can’t trust Grier to draft offensive linemen. He’s just a flat out bust in that regard, but if we can’t get the offensive line to a level that isn’t dependent on ONE player, the Dolphins offense is going to be hit and miss.

If the Bills lose Thursday night against the Patriots, I wouldn’t be too concerned about having Armstead on the field against the 49ers, but if they win, suck it up buttercup, we need to keep pace with Buffalo.

From reports he has a grade 2 strain (which is technically a tear, just not a full tear) so there is no sucking that up. He'd essentially be playing with one arm this week. I'm just hoping he's back for the Buffalo game.

Going to need coach Mike to go full 49ers this week with quick crossing passes that get people running.

Nov 29, 2022, 01:43 PM

Leave the other 4 exactly where they were.

The worst the line looked against Houston was when they experimented with moving Shell over to Left tackle.

Going to be an enormous downgrade at LT regardless. Might aswell keep the rest where they have been most comfortable.

FinatikFinatikmoderator
Nov 29, 2022, 01:46 PM

"Pennington's Limp Arm wrote:

Leave the other 4 exactly where they were.

The worst the line looked against Houston was when they experimented with moving Shell over to Left tackle.

Going to be an enormous downgrade at LT regardless. Might aswell keep the rest where they have been most comfortable.

May need the TE to stay in and help. Limits the looks but if they don't get a rush from that side he may be able to slip out and make them think a little.

Lots of people will tell you what they think about you and what you shouldn't and should do. Not everyone's thoughts are worth consideration. Don't take criticism from anyone who you wouldn't also go to for advice.

CBcbradforum_veteran
Nov 29, 2022, 02:07 PM

I think the biggest adjustment will be at QB. For a few games after coming back from injury Tua was getting the ball out VERY quickly. They kind of let up from that last few games. I think they'll go back to that ultra-quick release strategy if the pressure is bad. It was too difficult to make that adjustment in-game against Houston, but a week of game planning is another matter.

Having said that SF is a difficult game. East coast teams generally don't do well playing on the West coast, and SF's defense has been lights out lately giving up an average of only 10 points per game last 4 games. There's a reason bettors favor SF. Still think 9-3 is in our future.

OwesOwn614OwesOwn614forum_veteran
Nov 29, 2022, 02:32 PM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

I hate Tua having to play it so quickly, but if the improvised OL can just give Tagovailoa 2.5 seconds on every drop back, we’ll be ok…provided none of our next 3 opponents decide to play dirty and headhunt Tua.

That’s MY biggest concern…someone taking a CHEAP shot on him and ruining the rest of our season.

This is going to happen. I doubt a coach will instruct his players to do it, but I'd bet money that a player's willing to risk a fine and a 15-yard penalty if he thinks it'll get Tua out of the game. I'd prefer he move the pocket instead of stand stationary, waiting for players to break open. Fortunately, he has a quick release and good anticipation, so the ball comes out quick. But when he gets blasted while standing flat footed, it seems like he's more at risk.

mlb1399mlb1399forum_veteran
Nov 29, 2022, 02:45 PM

"Finatik wrote:

May need the TE to stay in and help. Limits the looks but if they don't get a rush from that side he may be able to slip out and make them think a little.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe more packages with Smythe since we really don’t use Gesicki anymore

SpringveldtSpringveldtforum_veteran
Nov 30, 2022, 04:51 AM

"Pennington's Limp Arm wrote:

Leave the other 4 exactly where they were.

The worst the line looked against Houston was when they experimented with moving Shell over to Left tackle.

Going to be an enormous downgrade at LT regardless. Might aswell keep the rest where they have been most comfortable.

Shell has been serviceable at RT and both times he's played LT he's been horrific. He needs to stay at RT.

The only option we have really is AJ to LT if he is ready. Little has been horrific at LT as well.

ExplosionsInDaSkyExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteran
Nov 30, 2022, 09:48 AM

No Armstead, probably an offensive scheme closer to what we saw against the Steelers in Tuas first game back. We don't need him taking hits so I imagine that's kind of what we'll see. I look for Jeff Wilson to get a lot of usage. Hopefully Mostert is back, he's actually not a bad receiver out of the backfield. Get well Armstead. Guy is the second most important player on the entire team.

Nov 30, 2022, 11:57 AM

Interesting development.
Maybe the sky isn’t falling here.