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Armstead expected to play in 2024

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Feb 21, 2024.

  1. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You don't come across as reasonable and friendly, except to those you agree with.
     
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  2. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    No, we had the 5th pick based on our record.
     
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  3. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
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  4. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I thought they traded down, and then moved back up.
     
  5. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I think your thinking of Jaylon Waddle.It was a trade with eagles and 49ers where we moved back to 12 and up to 6th to get waddle.
    Something Like that if I remember correctly.
     
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  6. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah could be. We have had so many ****ty draft decisions they all sort of go into one giant bad decision for me.
     
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  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I still believe that they could have gotten Tua later in the first round. Maybe even second.

    But that's just my opinion. I wouldn't argue that with anyone who felt differently.
     
  8. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Randall Cunningham is not in the HoF (we already covered this, although you ignored my post) and we don’t move up to # 5 to get Tua.

    Jesus… just making stuff up. lol
     
  9. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Coming off that hip.No doubt.
     
  10. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Technically he is.The eagles hall of fame.
     
  11. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    No. A team’s HoF has nothing to do with the Pro Football HoF.
     
  12. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Never said it did.I just said technically he is in a hall of fame.
     
  13. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    danmarino just let them play in their fictional troll world. lol
     
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  14. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Lol,
    Only a matter of time for Einstein to make an appearance!
     
  15. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Tua was never falling to the second. If Miami had taken Herbert he would have gone 6. Miami wasn't out there by themselves on Tua.
     
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  16. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I don't know for sure and you don't know for sure if Chargers take him or not with that injury.
    My Opinion they would have passed.
     
  17. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Well they said they would have in that scenario
     
  18. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    No. We know for sure that the Chargers would have drafted him.

    “If the Miami Dolphins hadn’t selected Tua Tagovailoa in the NFL draft last week, a different organization was set to take the former Alabama star quarterback one pick later.

    Los Angeles Chargers general manager Tom Telesco confirmed on the Pat McAfee show that the Chargers would have selected Tagovailoa with pick No. 6 had the Dolphins instead opted for Oregon QB Justin Herbert with selection No. 5.”

    https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/...olphins-hadnt-drafted-him.html?outputType=amp
     
  19. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Wrong
     
  20. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    “Technically” he’s not.
     
  21. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    To be honest, I don’t think resnor or pumpdogs are trolls. They’re just uninformed. Which is baffling to me since all the correct info is readily available. It seems they’d just rather be angry than informed, however.
     
  22. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Not really sure what u mean.
    Randall Cunningham is in eagles hall of fame look it up.I know this because I live here.
    Never said he was in Canton.
     
  23. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    You’re completely changing the context. No one was talking about the Eagle’s HoF. Resnor claimed he was in the HoF. He means the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    What you tried to do is like saying “Green beans are green so resnor is technically correct”.

    No
     
  24. pumpdogs

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  25. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I did correct him on Cunningham but he refused to believe me. And that’s part of the problem. Like the salary cap stuff. Some of us have literally spoon fed some here and they still refuse to believe it and or check for themselves.
     
  26. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Look man.I have been trying to change my combative personally which I would only attack when provoked but still feel that **** caused Keyfin to leave.
    My advice to you is to stop talking down t people or this site will be completely gone before u know it.I am trying as if u really go back and noticed I haven't attacked u like I normally would.Trying to be better.
    The one person I can't help myself with is ur buddy and u know whom I talking about.
    But up to you if u want.to change.
     
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  27. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Sorry, when I searched for Cunningham in the Hall of Fame, I was given a 2016 induction date.

    Acting like people are lying or stupid is ridiculous. Nothing said it was the Eagles HoF.
     
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  28. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    No, you simply said I was wrong. I asked if you were saying he wasn't in the Hall. You said yes.

    You didn't bother to actually explain, like pump did.

    You're being a tad bit ridiculous.
     
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  29. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You said it was a good risk. I mentioned hindsight saying it wasn't, you said it was still a good risk.
     
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  30. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Explain what? That he wasn’t in the HoF? What further explaining do you need?

    And I replied to you when you first said Cunningham was in the HoF. You then kept saying he was in the HoF. The only thing that mentions anything about a HoF is the Eagles HoF. You failed to read then entire title. You then claimed he was an all time great. He’s not.
     
  31. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    It was a good risk. By DEFINITION we can concluded that it wasn’t only in hindsight. I showed an example of an oft injured LT (Williams) who was signed at double what Armstead was signed and asked if he was also a bad risk. Obviously he was a good risk. We can know only using HINDSIGHT. Again, every decision in the NFL involves risk. At the time, the risk of signing an all pro LT for that price was a good risk.
     
  32. Two Tacos

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    Disagree with both of you. The price is worth the play.

    Armstead averages 15m PER year, which is the 11th highest LT under contract, and he started 23 games the last two years. Compared to the 10 tackles paid more per year and currently under contract:

    Tunsil $25M per and started 31 games (and 5 the year before those)
    T Williams $23M and 29 games
    Bakhtiari $23M and 12 games (and 1 the year before those)
    R Stanley $19.7M and 24 games
    J Mathews $18.3M and 34 games... nice
    K Miller $18M and 27 games
    C Robinson $18M and 23 games
    Humphries $18M and 23 games
    Bolles $17M and 23 games
    Brown $16M and 34 games... nice

    So, yeah... Armstead could have been healthier, but even with the injuries it was and is worth the risk.
     
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  33. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    It was worth the risk, I’m not sure he’s played enough to earn the money, however. If he’s been taking guys under his wing, and helped guys like AJ play better, then yes he’s worth it. He’s just such a great talent any GM would have taken him on at that price, however. And for people to simply say that we shouldn’t have given him a shot, for that money, are just being jaded and shortsighted and looking for things to hate Grier more than they already do.
     
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  34. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Well you entitled to your opinion. Me I saw guy that missed 5 games per year before we signed him and to think that he would magically stay healthy was and is unrealistic.Would rather have a lesser player that u can count on.We never know when his missed time will be.
    But that's how I feel.
     
  35. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    What’s more combative, pointing out things that are wrong, even explaining in detail why it’s wrong, or repeatedly making wrong statements even after being proven wrong? I’d argue it’s the latter. And if my posts come off as frank that’s the reason.
    For example, DJ and I get along great even though we have differing opinions on lots of things. However, when presented with evidence contrary to his opinions he’s not afraid to just change his mind. Like I’ve done when presented with a better and more compelling opinion. But when you have people that refuse to change their mind, and keep shouting the same nonsense over and over it gets really old. How many times do I have to say, and show, using the facts, that the Dolphins aren’t in some sort of cap hell? How many times do I have to say that Cunningham isn’t in the HoF? These are just two recent examples. It’s mind boggling that some here, even in the face of irrefutable proof, refuse to just say, “Oh, damn, I wrong” and move on. They instead keep digging further. Now maybe I should just ignore them, and I have put on ignore 3 people because that’s all they ever do, but at times you, resnor, and a few others are reasonable, but when you’re not Ill keep being frank and pointing out the fallacies.
     
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  36. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    That’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying that even with the expected 5 games missed Armstead was worth the money. That’s a reasonable opinion and he pointed out guys with bigger contracts who miss as many games as Armstead. He presented an opinion and gave his reasons. He didn’t just say “Armstead sucks” or “Armstead was worth the risk” and leave it at that.
     
  37. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    What is ur problem?I respectfully answered his response.
    I didn't want Armstead at any price.That is my opinion.I said an I quote I would rather have a player of lesser talent that you can count on.
     
  38. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Just put out me on ignore.You just have no clue how condescending you are.
    You are incapable of seeing what you truly are and it's sad.
     
  39. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    lol… You're too thin skinned for the internet. Nothing in my post was combative or disrespectful.
     
  40. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    lol…. Again.

    Why are you so emotional? Your opinion is that you don’t like Armstead, even if free? OK. That makes sense.
     

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