Are we positioning to challenge New England?

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CANEPHINSCANEPHINSForum VeteranOP
Mar 14, 2013, 10:14 PM

Or are we a distant second place team in the AFC East that will contend for a wild card berth?

I like the movies we have made so far and we all know that the way to stop Brady is to hit him in the mouth. He will eat you for lunch if he has time in the pocket and can walk casually back to the huddle and the line. Put him on his ass and he wilts like a dead flower. The signing of Ellerbe and Wheeler are key for this to happen.

Patriots seem to be making the right moves as well. They replace Welker with a WR who is very capable when healthy. Then they signed Leon Washington to give them another speed threat on offense and special teams. Now it looks like they will add Adrian Wilson to their secondary. Ugh.

So, as it is right now, have we gotten any closer or are we a distant second?

RoukRoukForum Veteran
Mar 14, 2013, 10:18 PM

We still have too many holes at this current date still a bit early for this thread imo but were still currently not a playoff team and our schedule is a mother ****er this year. We had decent LB play last year so we didn't straight upgrade its more of a long term fix and in using our money there we have holes to fill with the players we lost.

Phins_Fan_87Phins_Fan_87Supporter
Mar 14, 2013, 10:21 PM

NE is still clearly ahead of us imo. Mainly becuase they have tom brady. i expect them to win 10-12 games next season. miami will be anywhere from 8+ depending on how tanny plays

but as of right now, i still think there is a wide gap between both teams.

TooGoodForDezTooGoodForDezNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:21 PM

I like the movies too, but reality is a bich

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xphinfanxxphinfanxForum Veteran
Mar 14, 2013, 10:24 PM

All depends on the Tuck Rule.

That's why they play the games!:yes:

Mar 14, 2013, 10:24 PM

We need to address TE, OL, CB & WR postion still, got a long way to go.

CapsCapsForum Veteran
Mar 14, 2013, 10:25 PM

You always position yourself to win the division, it's the only guaranteed way to get to the dance. I think our new-look LB corps is a direct answer to what looks to be a heavier reliance on Gronk/Gonzo by that Pats this season.

At the end of the day though, there will be 3 main things that determine our success or failure this season:

1. How well do we draft in April

2. How Tanny develops

3. Whether we stay healthy or not

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Mar 14, 2013, 10:25 PM

Reality is, it rests on Tannehill, if he develops further, then sure, if not, then no.

MOmommabillyNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:26 PM

I go back a while more then probably most on this forum. Until Tom Brady came the Patriots were the doormat of the AFC. I hated them growing up and I hate them even more now. They, at one time, were pitiful to watch. The only solace I have is they will one day be a doormat again.

Brady and the BS tuck rule changed football. I hear now on the NFL Network the competition committee may be doing away with the tuck rule. It was a BS call to start with and it still is a BS call. Tuck rule, BS let the QBs wear friggin skirts then. They are also thinking about making it a penalty when a RB lowers his head before contact. Another BS rule.

Only runner I know of that could do that successfully was Erik Dickerson and there hasn't been one since. Whats a RB to do when its a 3rd and inches or 4th and inches, Running standing up straight into the LOS ? what a joke.

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invidinvidSupporter
Mar 14, 2013, 10:29 PM

"mommabilly wrote:

I go back a while more then probably most on this forum. Until Tom Brady came the Patriots were the doormat of the AFC. I hated them growing up and I hate them even more now. They, at one time, were pitiful to watch. The only solace I have is they will one day be a doormat again.

Brady and his HOF quarterback play changed football. I hear now on the NFL Network the competition committee may be doing away with the tuck rule. It was a BS call to start with and it still is a BS call. Tuck rule, BS let the QBs wear friggin skirts then. They are also thinking about making it a penalty when a RB lowers his head before contact. Another BS rule.

Only runner I know of that could do that successfully was Erik Dickerson and there hasn't been one since. Whats a RB to do when its a 3rd and inches or 4th and inches, Running standing up straight into the LOS ? what a joke.

ftfy

Fin DFin DForum Veteran
Mar 14, 2013, 10:30 PM

Are we positioning to challenge New England?

No. Why would we want to beat a divisional opponent? Makes no sense.

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:31 PM

right now hell no, we still need TE, CB x 2, WR, OT, OG, RB, and DE

MOmommabillyNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:32 PM

"invid wrote:

ftfy

Make no doubt, Tom Brady is the NEW ENGLAND Patriots, after him they are nothing special at all, nothing.

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Not So FastNot So FastForum Veteran
Mar 14, 2013, 10:32 PM

Every team tries to gun for the top of the division, so yes they are positioning to take on New England. However, Phins are still a distant 2nd.

SumlitSumlitNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:33 PM

If Tannehill improves from last season we can challenge. If he improves further in year 3, we can overtake.

We also need to draft well the next 2 season. Cannot shoot ourselves in the foot with bad drafts.

AquafinAquafinNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:40 PM

WE could be if we bring back McMichael after all he did play qb, de, te, and safety in college so if we bring back the hardest working player in dolphin history I say we win it all next season.

i am drinking beer right now but i'm not buzzed yet. :pointlol:

eriousy , we need to make some more moves and it would be cool if we could pull off a mega trade but is that even a possibility ? :guitar:

vt_dolfanvt_dolfanSupporter
Mar 14, 2013, 10:43 PM

Fudge it......Ill say it.

Hell yeh we are....and it starts this season. F the Pats.

"The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning"
Pele

vt_dolfanvt_dolfanSupporter
Mar 14, 2013, 10:44 PM

"mommabilly wrote:

Make no doubt, Tom Brady is the NEW ENGLAND Patriots, after him they are nothing special at all, nothing.

I agree. And I think we have the right plans in place to ruin his day

"The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning"
Pele

maynardmaynardNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:44 PM

To sweep them and win the division, no. But I think the chances of beating them at home have gotten better and I watch the Pats games at the top of the Skyway Bridge

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BpkBpkLuxury Box
Mar 14, 2013, 10:46 PM

Always contend for the division.

MOmommabillyNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 10:48 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Reality is, it rests on Tannehill, if he develops further, then sure, if not, then no.

This

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Sethdaddy8Sethdaddy8Forum Veteran
Mar 14, 2013, 10:58 PM

No. They are a Superbowl contender every year. Can we challenge to not get swept? Maybe.

fragsfragsNew Member
Mar 14, 2013, 11:58 PM

We need a pair of corners first before we talk about challenging the Patriots lest we look exactly like them without a secondary (well 1/2 secondary)

17isOurSavior17isOurSaviorNew Member
Mar 15, 2013, 12:10 AM

LOL at the negative nancys in this thread.

This team is no doubt a playoff team. In fact, we were last year, but two field goals prevented us from making it. This team is much better than last year (on paper, at least). How are we not? Can we compete with NE? Absolutely. Any team can win any game. Who knows how they will be without Welker, that might have helped us huge. Just continue with the great FA signings and hit a home run in the draft and trust me, we're there.

keithjacksonkeithjacksonSupporter
Mar 15, 2013, 05:42 AM

i think we are (will be) good enough to split with them and sweep the jets and bills. at 5-1 in the division, anything can happen with those other games - weren't they 2-2 at the beginning of this year. but i don't think we have a chance if we play them in the playoffs.

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