You sort of sidetracked the question, I wasnt referring to those teams or players. You honestly believe the Patriots are not the most "ref-friendly" team in the league. ?
How did I sidetrack the question in any way whatsoever? And absolutely not the Patriots are not the most ref-friendly team in the league. The Dolphins are penalized less this year and have been penalized less for half a decade. Many teams are, as a matter of fact. Again, you just keep saying it as if saying it more will make it more true. Provide evidence. There has literally been none provided in this argument, except by me.
We all know at this point that I can bring Walt Coleman to your house and tell you that certain teams get the benefit of the doubt and you wouldn't agree anyway.
So far all that has happened in this argument is the assertion that the Patriots are definitely the beneficiary of the most favorable officiating because...Patriots. Meanwhile Section126 is arguing purely the theory that there COULD be a team favored by referees, but provided no evidence whatsoever that the Patriots are this team that could exist in theory, or even that any of these theoretical teams exist or have ever existed. That would be like trying someone for murder and then presenting evidence that humans have a history of committing murder. And then when the defense says yes but where's your evidence that this human committed this murder, you start mocking them by saying "Ohhh, evidently the defense would like you to believe that humans are INCAPABLE of murder."
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. LOFL. Yep..Don Shula had "special" drills that worked on players of three different decades. come on..You can't possibly believe this bull****.
if you accept the principle of "consequential" penalties. ....I will share with you my research. let me know..it will take me about 24 hours to do. I will post it right in here.
Of course those teams under Shula were extremely well disciplined but they certainly did get calls in there favor because they were the MIAMI DOLPHINS COACHED BY DON SHULA. In a round about way Shula himself wryly admitted it years later when asked this question by saying in order to win in the NFL you need an edge, and a psychological edge never hurt. I believe this was discussed during one of his hororing gala`s. I dont remember which one. Long story short, it happened then and still does today.
That's completely wrong. Section, you literally have not provided one contextual piece of evidence. You talked about your standards for what constitute a consequential penalty. OK, that's a great start. But that's like telling the FDA that you have a great idea for some guidelines you can use to study the effectiveness and side effects of a drug, so please approve my drug for market. Ummm, yeah if you have a great idea for a drug study why don't you actually conduct the study?
Well..then I disagree...I happen to think that a Holding penalty on first down that forces 1st and 20 is worse than a false start penalty that forces 2nd and 8.
Do I agree with your theory of consequential penalties? No. I don't. I think that's something that is completely up for interpretion and prone to abuse. I believe in the concept of subjective penalties and judgment-based penalties. For instance a false start is generally immune to subjectiveness, although we saw a great example just last night of how even that can in some situations be considered an subjective penalty. But at least if you actually presented your "consequential penalty" data, you'd actually be supporting your argument with SOME evidence whatsoever. Presently, there's None. With a capital N.
The only real "proof" would be for the refs to admit it. What do you think the chances are for that happening? Until then I`ll just stick with what I witness with my own eyes.
Whoa. How in god's name do you go from that A to B? That was like going from A to Ӝ. You went from my saying that you've not provided any evidence or any studies to prove your point, to my disagreeing that a holding penalty is worse than a false start? Truthfully, you're taking my argument about as seriously as I'm taking yours. And that means we should probably just stop.
The only example of bias favoring the Patriots that I *might* be convinced by is excessive protectionism towards Tom Brady. I've seen numerous cases where ticky-tack touches got the 15-yard flag where they wouldn't normally otherwise. But that's more of a superstar QB effect. Tannehill hasn't earned those stripes yet.
I agree with this as well. But I think that benefit is not extended to Brady alone. And over the last half-decade it seems more and more pocket quarterbacks are being extended that benefit. Meanwhile, other types of quarterbacks (ehem, Vick) seem to be specifically excluded from that benefit at times, even when they're behaving like the pocket quarterbacks. I don't believe that's a conspiracy, I think it's the result of the natural human biases that come as a result of applying the same inflexible rules onto different kinds of players and different kinds of situations which can make uniformity very challenging.
Did you quote the wrong post by accident? What you said would have made a lot more sense if you had quoted post #290.
Wow,didnt see that coming. Once again I`ll try and state something that seems to be eluding you. All it takes is one,ONE biased call by the refs in a crucial moment of a game that could effect the outcome. I`m NOT talking about the actual number of penalties I`m referring to highly questionable calls at critical moments. You`ve obviously watched a ton of games in your life I`m surprised you never really noticed this trend towards the Pats. Keep in mind I dont hate the Patriots personally other then them being a divisional opponent ( Jets are a different story) so I`m not trying to prove a point out of hatred or jealousy . Its just so damn obvious its no longer just a coincidence.
Do I agree that a 10 yard holding penalty is more consequential than a 5 yard false start? Yes. The holding penalty is about twice as bad. Hence I've been quoting penalty yardage data. I also just got done explaining that I believe in the difference between judgment call penalties and penalties that tend to be a lot more clear. A false start is among the more clear penalties out there, but so too are facemask penalties and horse collar tackles. You may run into a no-call that you disagree with every now and then but you RARELY run into a facemask or a horsecollar where the player didn't actually have his hands all over the facemask or the collar of the other player. They tend to be pretty clear. So do delay of game penalties. You almost never see a false positive there, flag thrown before the clock really expired. You also rarely see 12 men on the field penalties when they didn't really happen. Similarly, you don't often see offsides penalties when they didn't really happen. I personally find that most intentional grounding penalties are pretty objectively called. Illegal procedure and illegal formation calls would seem to be objective but I actually disagree with that. There's often a gray area about a player thinking he was far enough off the line but the ref flagging him anyway, or the opposite, etc. Sometimes there will be just not quite enough of a delay between when one guy moves and another guy starts moving and that will draw an illegal procedure, but then again a lot of times that's not called. So if you want to break out the calls that tend to be more subjective, I'd be all for that. But I think the yardage itself is a pretty fair proxy for how consequential a subjective penalty call is. The funny part is, proving that the Patriots are least prone to subjective penalty calls doesn't even necessarily make your case. But at least it provides an evidence point whereas right now there's none.
Now you KNOW thats not what I was trying to imply. I`m just saying I came to MY conclusions watching the games.
What we "care" about in this discussion is the ball breaking, drive killing, penalties that are completely called at the Refs discretion. Those penalties that completely alter outcomes. I am "alleging" that Refs don't KNOW they have a Bias......it just BUILDS over time, to the point where it becomes another obstacle to overcome. My problem is with the NO-CALLS above all else. We are talking Offensive Holding by O-Linemen..and Def. Pass Interference by all defenders.
Essentially concerned yourself with immeasurable, completely subjectively-based calls you deem to be "consequential" based on your perception. I guess it's just our bad luck that these penalties which you suggest alter outcomes are completely immeasurable, although that fact in itself leads to obvious questions about the validity of your anecdotal observations that suggest this is happening more for the Patriots than the rest of the league. You allege that the officials don't even know they're biased. That's great. It also absolves you from the necessity of getting officials to admit they call things one way for the Patriots and another way for the rest of the league. But you've yet to even explain to any degree WHY they have built this bias. You're basically engaging in story-telling. I like story time as much as anyone. It's an interesting story. But it's just a story.
at this point, I am blue in the face explaining WHY they have this Bias. You are just asking me to repeat myself. Reputation, Intimidation. You know..the same magic that Don Shula sprinkled on three decades of Dolphin teams. Oh that's right..that was great coaching and special drills...I forgot.
In the end...you seem to be arguing that the same biases and "styles" that exist in the NBA for Officiating crews do NOT exist in the NFL. I disagree. They are the same.
Where do you get such stats for the Pats and/or all the other teams? Or, do you just compile them yourself while watching the games?
Or Solder. The first time Wake went up against Solder in the latter's rookie season, it was embarrassing what he was allowed to get away with pass blocking. How could anyone not doubt that referee or umpire, the officials concerned with calling offensive holding, from that point forward? There is Bias, and I do not agree that it's unconscious bias.
You ask for them from the individual teams and they give it to you. The Patriots media Dept. is a disaster..so these I usually get from WEEI in Boston who is pretty good about Info.
Anybody interested....Best Media Dept.? The NY Jets. The worst? Tie with the 49ers and Patriots. Most improved? Miami Dolphins. Strangest thing a Media Dept. ever told me in an email? Panthers: "I hope you are not doing another bull**** investigative Cam Newton piece." problem is..I have no idea what they were referring too.
I'm not making any conclusive arguments, but I watched the Raiders and Chiefs game yesterday and if that's all you knew, you'd know the refs had it out for the Raiders.
Went back to Cam's college days when there were all the allegations that his dad was pimping him out to the various colleges he attended (UF, Blinn, and Auburn), as well reports from other colleges that his Dad had spurned them for not paying up. He was also involved in laptop theft and threw it out of a window trying to keep the cops from catching him with it and he was also caught in academic cheating... Now there are the Panther issues... You can find most of this on his wiki pages... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton / http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton
Been talk for weeks about the team benching him for a variety of things... mostly around his selfishness and immaturity... http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/digit...thing-for-him-and-the-panthers-at-this-point/ Rodney Harrison was talking about it on NFLN the other day as well...
For those interested, here are all penalties in Pats games so far this season. First the Pats, then their opponents. Of course this does not tell us anything about non-calls. Note: Los 80 = own 20 yards = yards made on the play Pats [TABLE="width: 513"] [TR] [TD="align: right"]Quarter[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Time[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Off[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Def[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Down[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Distance[/TD] [TD="align: right"]LOS[/TD] [TD="align: right"]yards[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Penalty[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD="align: right"]No play[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4:38[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]84[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD]Unnecessary Roughness[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1:15[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]97[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10:44[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]88[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Unnecessary Roughness[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1:58[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]41[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]9:26[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8:10[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD="align: right"]77[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Roughing the Passer[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14:42[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]61[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14:36[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15[/TD] [TD="align: right"]66[/TD] [TD="align: right"]20[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3:22[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]41[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive 12 On-field[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2:45[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]35[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]20[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7:31[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]80[/TD] [TD="align: right"]22[/TD] [TD]Illegal Contact[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3:16[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]50[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]11:29[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6[/TD] [TD="align: right"]21[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3:38[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]80[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neutral Zone Infraction[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7:45[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]9[/TD] [TD="align: right"]79[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3:02[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6[/TD] [TD="align: right"]11[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2:34[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]84[/TD] [TD="align: right"]20[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6:55[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]51[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD] Illegal Shift[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6:23[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6[/TD] [TD="align: right"]56[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Illegal Formation[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]11:50[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]72[/TD] [TD="align: right"]13[/TD] [TD]Face Mask (15 Yards)[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15:00[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]80[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14:37[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]20[/TD] [TD="align: right"]90[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]Illegal Shift[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10:19[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]81[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Delay of Game[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15:00[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14[/TD] [TD="align: right"]83[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]13:24[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]61[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]38[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8:12[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]36[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Illegal Shift[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3:51[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]41[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Holding[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]11:51[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]18[/TD] [TD="align: right"]74[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]11:27[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]80[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Offensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD="align: right"]65[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Illegal Block Above the Waist[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2:58[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]32[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Opponents [TABLE="width: 513"] [TR] [TD="align: right"]Quarter[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Time[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Off[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Def[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Down[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Distance[/TD] [TD="align: right"]LOS[/TD] [TD="align: right"]yards[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Penalty[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD="align: right"]No play[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]14:56[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]86[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neutral Zone Infraction[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]9:07[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]57[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]8:42[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]13[/TD] [TD="align: right"]62[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Face Mask (15 Yards)[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]4:00[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]69[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Illegal Use of Hands[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]9:53[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]54[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14[/TD] [TD]Defensive Offside[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]9:07[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]29[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD]Defensive 12 On field[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]7:15[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]67[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neutral Zone Infraction[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]4:10[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]62[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD]Illegal Block Above the Waist[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]8:05[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]47[/TD] [TD="align: right"]19[/TD] [TD]Defensive Offside[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]2:18[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]58[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15[/TD] [TD]Illegal Use of Hands[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]:28[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]42[/TD] [TD="align: right"]-4[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]14:28[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]12[/TD] [TD="align: right"]44[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Illegal Formation[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]11:35[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive 12 On field[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]14:25[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]74[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]16[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]9:20[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Illegal Formation[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]4:10[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD="align: right"]9[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]10:17[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]54[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]7:12[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]66[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]7:43[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]73[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Delay of Game[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]:48[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]71[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Personal Foul[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]10:58[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]28[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]3:16[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15[/TD] [TD="align: right"]55[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Illegal Contact[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]2:00[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]45[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]28[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]13:44[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]24[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]8:11[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]60[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neutral Zone Infraction[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]6:15[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]75[/TD] [TD="align: right"]18[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]5:06[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14[/TD] [TD="align: right"]79[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD]Face Mask (15 Yards)[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]10:51[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]91[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD]Illegal Use of Hands[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]:35[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]84[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]Defensive Holding[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]15:00[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]19[/TD] [TD="align: right"]88[/TD] [TD="align: right"]26[/TD] [TD]Unnecessary Roughness[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]5:12[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]23[/TD] [TD="align: right"]12[/TD] [TD]Offensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]13:21[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]85[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]8:10[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]12[/TD] [TD="align: right"]55[/TD] [TD="align: right"]-8[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]9:13[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]73[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Player Out of Bounds on Punt[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]8:32[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]49[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]Horse Collar Tackle[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]3:34[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]58[/TD] [TD="align: right"]-8[/TD] [TD]Defensive Offside[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]10:14[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]:53[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]59[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Offside[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]:30[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]42[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Roughing the Passer[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]7:09[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]73[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]13:48[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]2:03[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]38[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]False Start[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]1:47[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]87[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Holding[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]:48[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]16[/TD] [TD="align: right"]69[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Illegal Substitution[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]4:48[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6[/TD] [TD="align: right"]63[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Unnecessary Roughness[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]3:55[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]24[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Pass Interference, Defensive Holding, Illegal Contact [TABLE="width: 513"] [TR] [TD="align: right"]Quarter[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Time[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Off[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Def[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Down[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Distance[/TD] [TD="align: right"]LOS[/TD] [TD="align: right"]yards[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Penalty[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD="align: right"]No play[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2:45[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]35[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]20[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7:31[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]80[/TD] [TD="align: right"]22[/TD] [TD]Illegal Contact[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2:34[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]84[/TD] [TD="align: right"]20[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]13:24[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]61[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]38[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3:51[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]41[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Holding[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]14:25[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]74[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]16[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]3:16[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15[/TD] [TD="align: right"]55[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Illegal Contact[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]2:00[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]45[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]28[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]:35[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]84[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]Defensive Holding[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]13:48[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Pass Interference[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD]1:47[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]87[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Defensive Holding[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Offensive Holding [TABLE="width: 513"] [TR] [TD="align: right"]Quarter[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Time[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Off[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Def[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Down[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Distance[/TD] [TD="align: right"]LOS[/TD] [TD="align: right"]yards[/TD] [TD="align: right"]Penalty[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD="align: right"]No play[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]9:26[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14:36[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15[/TD] [TD="align: right"]66[/TD] [TD="align: right"]20[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7:45[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]9[/TD] [TD="align: right"]79[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3:02[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6[/TD] [TD="align: right"]11[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]15:00[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]80[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]11:51[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]18[/TD] [TD="align: right"]74[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2:58[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]32[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]:28[/TD] [TD]BUF[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]42[/TD] [TD="align: right"]-4[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]4:10[/TD] [TD]NYJ[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD="align: right"]9[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]13:44[/TD] [TD]TB[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]24[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]6:15[/TD] [TD]ATL[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]75[/TD] [TD="align: right"]18[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]13:21[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]85[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]8:10[/TD] [TD]CIN[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]12[/TD] [TD="align: right"]55[/TD] [TD="align: right"]-8[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]decl.[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD]7:09[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]73[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD]3:55[/TD] [TD]NO[/TD] [TD]NE[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]24[/TD] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD]Offensive Holding[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]x[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
Those things imo were easily predictable coming out of college to manifest themselves into his pro career..I wouldn't want him on my team..
