And with their first pick in the 2020 Draft the Miami Dolphins...
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Sceetoforum_veteran"KeyFin wrote:
A lot of mocks pinned us to him at #23....but I don't know who that is.
DE from Penn St.
Curtis Weaver will also be a possibility there.
Vertical Limitforum_veteran"Fishhead wrote:
On the subject of Tua, what does everyone think he’s going to do on Monday? I think it makes more sense for him to declare, but who knows what the doctors and his family are telling him.
Hes gotta declare... the fact that most still have him graded as a first rounder even though he is made of glass, he cant take anymore risks. Get your first round money, hes not going to get picked ahead of Trevor in 2021 and if he gets injured again.... Get your first round money now
mlb1399forum_veteranWhere would everyone be comfortable taking Tua? Maybe I’m a gun shy with the hip after Jason Allen but I don’t want to spend our 5th on him. Nows not the time to gamble.
The_Dark_Knightforum_veteranI don’t think you’re going to see us draft a QB unless one of them falls way back to our 3rd first round pick.
I just have a feeling Flores is going to build the trenches and build a team that’s ready for a quarterback to take the reigns in 2021, which will be fine by me.
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
KeyFinforum_veteran"mlb1399 wrote:
Where would everyone be comfortable taking Tua? Maybe I’m a gun shy with the hip after Jason Allen but I don’t want to spend our 5th on him. Nows not the time to gamble.
Honestly? In the 3rd to 5th round would be where I'm comfortable drafting him. I doubt he gets out of the top 20 though.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
thetylernatorforum_veteranI'm just going to pretend Tua returns to school, because that's a rabbit hole I don't feel like going down.
1A: Jerry Jeudy, Isaiah Simmons, or Derrick Brown. Jeudy might be the best thing to come out of this class, period. Simmons is a do-it-all freak, line him up anywhere and watch him fly to the ball like a magnet. Brown is a stalwart nose tackle who would immediately put our defensive line into SF territory with Wilkins and Godchaux next to him. All have a reasonable chance to be available.
1B: A.J. Epenesa, Grant Delpit, or Tristan Wirfs. Epenesa is an ideal 5-tech in our defense w/ the flexibility to line up as a pure edge rusher in hybrid or disguise packages. Delpit's stock has dipped a bit, but he is still a blue-chip safety in my eyes--reminds me of Eric Berry at times. Wirfs is simply a mauler of a right-tackle.
1C: Travis Etienne, Jonathan Taylor, or Curtis Weaver. Etienne and Taylor are the top two 'backs in this class and you can't go wrong with either; just two very different running styles. Weaver is a bit of tweener; short wingspan and a heavy lower body will make some evaluators shy away since he plays mostly on the edge, but he's been absurdly productive in college. He's not a prototypical edge rusher, but his build presents some unique opportunities as a flexible defender. You could theoretically line him up in any position in the front seven, and that's got to appeal to Flores.
mlb1399forum_veteran"thetylernator wrote:
I'm just going to pretend Tua returns to school, because that's a rabbit hole I don't feel like going down.
1A: Jerry Jeudy, Isaiah Simmons, or Derrick Brown. Jeudy might be the best thing to come out of this class, period. Simmons is a do-it-all freak, line him up anywhere and watch him fly to the ball like a magnet. Brown is a stalwart nose tackle who would immediately put our defensive line into SF territory with Wilkins and Godchaux next to him. All have a reasonable chance to be available.
1B: A.J. Epenesa, Grant Delpit, or Tristan Wirfs. Epenesa is an ideal 5-tech in our defense w/ the flexibility to line up as a pure edge rusher in hybrid or disguise packages. Delpit's stock has dipped a bit, but he is still a blue-chip safety in my eyes--reminds me of Eric Berry at times. Wirfs is simply a mauler of a right-tackle.
1C: Travis Etienne, Jonathan Taylor, or Curtis Weaver. Etienne and Taylor are the top two 'backs in this class and you can't go wrong with either; just two very different running styles. Weaver is a bit of tweener; short wingspan and a heavy lower body will make some evaluators shy away since he plays mostly on the edge, but he's been absurdly productive in college. He's not a prototypical edge rusher, but his build presents some unique opportunities as a flexible defender. You could theoretically line him up in any position in the front seven, and that's got to appeal to Flores.
I feel the same way.
As far as Simmons, if Flores has any say, that pick makes a lot of sense if he’s there. He wanted Minkah to play a hybrid role and adjust it based on matchups so Simmons could do that with a different skill set.
I know you have to go BPA but don’t love taking a WR there based on believing you build from the inside out. Maybe a team would fall in love with him and offer Miami a deal it can’t refuse to move back. Three first rounders next year on top of this year sounds pretty cool, if you can get a 2nd or 3rd too.
ExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteranIt's incredibly early, but my money is on Tua with the fifth pick. I think he declares for the draft, I think we take him and he sits for a year behind Fitzpatrick. I for one would be excited about the pick if he is in fact the guy. Obviously the injury issues are a concern. We would really need to do our homework on the hip too. I agree that it is a huge gamble with all things considered.
In short it wouldn't surprise me at all if we drafted him with the fifth pick...It also wouldn't surprise me at all if we end up drafting a defensive tackle that I barely know anything about. I have no choice but to support this team and what they do. Looking forward to the draft for sure, but i'm going to enjoy the postseason first and maybe get into the NBA now that football is over.
Deus ex dolphinforum_veteran"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
It's incredibly early, but my money is on Tua with the fifth pick. I think he declares for the draft, I think we take him and he sits for a year behind Fitzpatrick. I for one would be excited about the pick if he is in fact the guy. Obviously the injury issues are a concern. We would really need to do our homework on the hip too. I agree that it is a huge gamble with all things considered.
In short it wouldn't surprise me at all if we drafted him with the fifth pick...It also wouldn't surprise me at all if we end up drafting a defensive tackle that I barely know anything about. I have no choice but to support this team and what they do. Looking forward to the draft for sure, but i'm going to enjoy the postseason first and maybe get into the NBA now that football is over.
If only the NFL had some kind of playoff system, so we could watch some games over the next few weeks. Maybe someday.....
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
KeyFinforum_veteran"Deus ex dolphin wrote:
If only the NFL had some kind of playoff system, so we could watch some games over the next few weeks. Maybe someday.....
Well, there's always the Puppy Bowl about a month from now. Not my cup of tea but hey, it's sorta like football?!? LOL
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
Vertical Limitforum_veteranIm going with the following..
1A. Derrick Brown
1B. Najee Harris
1C. trade 1C for premier offensive guard.. call Dallas, they got cap issues and need to sign Dak and Amari Cooper to record setting contracts.. see if theyll give up Zack Martin
Deus ex dolphinforum_veteran"KeyFin wrote:
Well, there's always the Puppy Bowl about a month from now. Not my cup of tea but hey, it's sorta like football?!? LOL
The real fans will be watching the Kitten Bowl.
As for the draft, I need to see what happens in free agency. I'd love to see them trade a third rounder for Trent Williams, grab the best free agent Center, and then draft a RT in the first round. That might be enough to create a decent OL for 2020.
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
Deus ex dolphinforum_veteran"Vertical Limit wrote:
Chase Young just declared for the draft.
So, he just quit on Ohio State??? No way he should be taken in the top 4 picks then!!
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
Ohio FanaticsubscriberNo Herbert in 1st round. No Hurts before round 3.
I'd take Love if he makes it to 2nd pick.
Our first pick is either Tua if he declares or best available player at Oline or defense. But I don't want Young with first pick
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texanphinaticforum_veteran"pumpdogs wrote:
Both the Meers and Hill prices are fine if you are sold on Burrow, but hard to see the Bengals biting on anything less than a record setting deal.
If Tua is looking good though, I wouldn't be shocked to see us - or someone else - go up to 3. There just isn't positional value there for the Lions, who aren't taking a QB. Monday will be an interesting day.
"texanphinatic wrote:
Both the Meers and Hill prices are fine if you are sold on Burrow, but hard to see the Bengals biting on anything less than a record setting deal.
If Tua is looking good though, I wouldn't be shocked to see us - or someone else - go up to 3. There just isn't positional value there for the Lions, who aren't taking a QB. Monday will be an interesting day.
No doubt I am not sold on Tua!To injury prone for my taste.
"texanphinatic wrote:
Both the Meers and Hill prices are fine if you are sold on Burrow, but hard to see the Bengals biting on anything less than a record setting deal.
If Tua is looking good though, I wouldn't be shocked to see us - or someone else - go up to 3. There just isn't positional value there for the Lions, who aren't taking a QB. Monday will be an interesting day.
I have been sold on Burrow since Texas game.
I am willing to.sell the house for a.guy.that I feel is a true franchise Qb.Tua is a chandelier.Has not.proven he can stay healthy with a team that has elite.talent in a shorter season.
"thetylernator wrote:
I'm just going to pretend Tua returns to school, because that's a rabbit hole I don't feel like going down.
1A: Jerry Jeudy, Isaiah Simmons, or Derrick Brown. Jeudy might be the best thing to come out of this class, period. Simmons is a do-it-all freak, line him up anywhere and watch him fly to the ball like a magnet. Brown is a stalwart nose tackle who would immediately put our defensive line into SF territory with Wilkins and Godchaux next to him. All have a reasonable chance to be available.
1B: A.J. Epenesa, Grant Delpit, or Tristan Wirfs. Epenesa is an ideal 5-tech in our defense w/ the flexibility to line up as a pure edge rusher in hybrid or disguise packages. Delpit's stock has dipped a bit, but he is still a blue-chip safety in my eyes--reminds me of Eric Berry at times. Wirfs is simply a mauler of a right-tackle.
1C: Travis Etienne, Jonathan Taylor, or Curtis Weaver. Etienne and Taylor are the top two 'backs in this class and you can't go wrong with either; just two very different running styles. Weaver is a bit of tweener; short wingspan and a heavy lower body will make some evaluators shy away since he plays mostly on the edge, but he's been absurdly productive in college. He's not a prototypical edge rusher, but his build presents some unique opportunities as a flexible defender. You could theoretically line him up in any position in the front seven, and that's got to appeal to Flores.
This 100000% if Tua does go back to school.
Burrow, IMO, will not be a good NFL QB. Of course I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.
The_Dark_Knightforum_veteran"pumpdogs wrote:
I have been sold on Burrow since Texas game.
I am willing to.sell the house for a.guy.that I feel is a true franchise Qb.Tua is a chandelier.Has not.proven he can stay healthy with a team that has elite.talent in a shorter season.
OK, I just want to ask for clarification...because I know there are others who probably feel the same as you do, you'd be willing to sell the farm for Burrows...give up our 3 first round draft picks when;
We have serious issues on the offensive line that need shoring up
Still have issues at running back
Still have issues on the defensive line
Have no one to speak of at linebacker
Have issues in the defensive secondary
We have so many holes to fill on our team and we have a REAL opportunity to get some GREAT players to fill these holes and you'd want to trade them all away just to get a quarterback to sit on the bench? Or even if he was put in at the start, have no support to set him up for success?
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
The_Dark_Knightforum_veteran"mlb1399 wrote:
I know you have to go BPA but don’t love taking a WR there based on believing you build from the inside out. Maybe a team would fall in love with him and offer Miami a deal it can’t refuse to move back. Three first rounders next year on top of this year sounds pretty cool, if you can get a 2nd or 3rd too.
You know, this philosophy of drafting the BPA never really made any sense to me. To me the draft has always been about getting the players that you NEED. I mean, if you have your WR corps set...5 STUD WR's and yet on the draft board, the BPA is a WR so you draft a player that you don't need? It's never made sense to me.
I think you should be drafting BPA for the positions you need.
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
HooligansubscriberOverpaying for a QB makes no sense, not on this team. The Redskins overpaid for RG3 and now he's a back-up for Baltimore and Washington is still in QB hell. Boy, don't they look stupid.
Potentially great QBs come along every year, exceptionally good QB classes seem to come along every couple of years.
Unless somebody has a time machine and knew FOR A FACT that Burrow would lead us to the SB in a couple of years then, for sure but, buying 20,000 dollars in lottery tickets to get rich is a poor strategy.
Build the defense, o-line and, get a couple of stud RBs this year. LEAP FOR LAWRENCE next year.
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