And with their first pick in the 2020 Draft the Miami Dolphins...
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GalantForum VeteranOPWhat is the ONE move that would most excite you to hear called as the Dolphins first action in the draft?
I think I would be most excited to hear:
"TRADE. Miami has traded with Cincinnati to move up to #1...and with the #1 pick in the 2020 draft Miami select Joe Burrow."
There's a proviso for this, it depends on how much they give up, but if they traded three #1 picks (this year or spread out) and maybe another pick elsewhere, I'd be okay with it.
Likely? Not sure. Every year there are surprises in the draft, especially in QB evaluations, and it's not hard to believe the Bengals might value multiple picks instead of just one QB, especially if they like someone else over Burrow. They currently have one pick in each round. Would they like to have 3 first round picks instead?
Clarification - there are other moves the Dolphins could make that I'd be satisfied with, but not more excited. And I wouldn't want to see them move up for anyone else.
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I'll be honest that I dont think an individual player will excite me at our spot.
I love Burrow but not enough to trade up and grab him considering what it would take.
Young will be off the board and no-one else IMO is at a level beyond their peers that makes them exciting so early in the draft.
Parker proved we don't need to draft someone to be the #1 guy, earlier in the year I wanted a WR but I'm actually fine with what we have now.
Most likely the pick will be something not too exciting like one of the many similarly rated OT in this draft. Not to say we dont need help on the line, we do, but not at #5 because the talent difference between what will be there at #18 or later isnt large.
Honestly at this point I'd be happier with a trade back than taking someone at #5
Puka-headSupporterThe QBs I like will all be available later with Steelers or Texans pick. Ideally what I would like to see is a trade down to 8-10 range and take Creed Humphrey there. If you had to you could use the extra picks earned there to move up from the second to pick up Eason or Fromm or Hurts and still use 18 and Texans pick on BPA for Defense, CB, S, DE
Rick 1966Forum VeteranWhat I would like to happen? As you say, to trade up for Burrow.
What I think is most likely? That we trade down with someone who wants Herbert because I don't think we want him, I think Burrow will be gone and Tua isn't worth the risk. I hope trade down and grab Eason around 10-15.
Deus ex dolphinForum VeteranI only see a trade for Burrow if he demands a trade, due to the lackluster owner and front office. They are so bad, they easily got the #1 pick without gutting the team like Miami did. That says volumes about the dysfunction of Cincinnati.
As for cost? I'd say #5, #18 and #62 (the Saints pick which probably goes down a bit as they win playoff games) would be fair value for the Bengals given the leverage we'd have with Burrow holding out on them.
They can roll the dice on Tua and grab a couple other players with the extra picks. Not a bad situation really. It might even work out better for them in the long run.
Other than that, I'd would hope we can trade down a bit as teams jump up to grab Herbert. A trade down with the Chargers or maybe Jags would be fine, we'd still be in the top 10 draft picks and grab an extra third rounder. If Tua is still there, then you grab him.
If they are convinced Tua is the real deal (and Burrow is gone to Cincy) and will stay healthy, then grab him at #5 and hope for the best.
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
Deus ex dolphinForum Veteran"Fin D wrote:
Tua if he declares. Love if he doesn't.
Out of context, this is funny. I know what you mean, but how about, "Tua if he declares. Hurts if he doesn't."?
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
Fin DForum Veteran"Deus ex dolphin wrote:
Out of context, this is funny. I know what you mean, but how about, "Tua if he declares. Hurts if he doesn't."?
hahahahaha
KeyFinForum Veteran"Deus ex dolphin wrote:
Out of context, this is funny. I know what you mean, but how about, "Tua if he declares. Hurts if he doesn't."?
Or, "Tua if he declares, Love Hurts if he doesn't!"
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KeyFinForum VeteranTo me, Burrow is the most complete college QB I've seen in a long time and I'd love to see him in Miami. If that doesn't happen though (and it probably won't) then I'd rather see us trade down since there's nobody that feels like a must-grab at #5. I'd rather not overpay on Tua since it's the biggest unknown of any player...huge gamble taking him there.
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Surfs Up 99Forum Veteran"Galant wrote:
What is the ONE move that would most excite you to hear called as the Dolphins first action in the draft?
I think I would be most excited to hear:
"TRADE. Miami has traded with Cincinnati to move up to #1...and with the #1 pick in the 2020 draft Miami select Joe Burrow."
There's a proviso for this, it depends on how much they give up, but if they traded three #1 picks (this year or spread out) and maybe another pick elsewhere, I'd be okay with it.
Likely? Not sure. Every year there are surprises in the draft, especially in QB evaluations, and it's not hard to believe the Bengals might value multiple picks instead of just one QB, especially if they like someone else over Burrow. They currently have one pick in each round. Would they like to have 3 first round picks instead?
Clarification - there are other moves the Dolphins could make that I'd be satisfied with, but not more excited. And I wouldn't want to see them move up for anyone else.
Sounds good to me. I'm not going to overthink it. If we could pull it off I would be happy because at one point I was advocating selling the farm to get us a franchise QB. I have only mentioned that I would be okay with Fitzpatrick next year and a developmental QB like Love because I don't think Cinci will trade the 1st. Also, I am not sure about Tua. So right now I am not really considering him an option unless it is for our last 1st or a 2nd rounder and even then I am not sure. That was a bad, bad injury. He might never be the same and just because Drew Brees worked out, to me, it doesn't mean we need to be cavalier with our picks. Each situation is different.
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The GuyForum VeteranTua.
Rick 1966Forum VeteranLove Hurts...Love Scars.
xphinfanxForum VeteranBurrow would be the first choice but not multiple first round picks for him. I would like to see them gain another pick and drop back further now Tua just don't seem like a top 5 pick to me.
Derrick Brown DT if it's five.
That's why they play the games!:yes:
texanphinaticForum VeteranTua Tagovailoa, QB from the University of Alabama.
There really isn't another realistic prospect (I would consider Burrow and Young unrealistic to the extreme) that would really get me excited at this point. There are some defenders that would be good picks but unsexy, and as much as Jeudy and Lamb are crazy good, I'm not thrilled with a top 5 receiver. A tackle? Meh.
We will need to see Herbert and Love (and to lesser degrees Eason and Hurts) in the draft leadup before I get sold on either.
If there is no Tua, I wouldn't mind aggressively exploring a trade back.
mlb1399Forum VeteranTrade back 4-5 spots and take Tristan Wirfs. I’m an Iowa homer :)
texanphinaticForum Veteran"mlb1399 wrote:
Trade back 4-5 spots and take Tristan Wirfs. I’m an Iowa homer :)
Since you are an Iowa guy, why Wirfs over Epenesa?
"mlb1399 wrote:
Trade back 4-5 spots and take Tristan Wirfs. I’m an Iowa homer :)
Isn’t there some question about him and Espensa returning to school?
On the subject of Tua, what does everyone think he’s going to do on Monday? I think it makes more sense for him to declare, but who knows what the doctors and his family are telling him.
SceetoForum VeteranI want Herbert followed by OL and Pass Rusher. Would love it if we can get Gross-Matos with one of the later first rounders.
KeyFinForum Veteran"Sceeto wrote:
I want Herbert followed by OL and Pass Rusher. Would love it if we can get Gross-Matos with one of the later first rounders.
A lot of mocks pinned us to him at #23....but I don't know who that is.
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StrikingForum Veteran"Rick 1966 wrote:
What I would like to happen? As you say, to trade up for Burrow.
What I think is most likely? That we trade down with someone who wants Herbert because I don't think we want him, I think Burrow will be gone and Tua isn't worth the risk. I hope trade down and grab Eason around 10-15.
Could see the Raiders make a move.
mlb1399Forum Veteran"texanphinatic wrote:
Since you are an Iowa guy, why Wirfs over Epenesa?
they’re both good players but I think AJ doesn’t quite have the elite explosiveness and speed to take in the top 10. I’d be more comfortable with our 2nd pick.
Wirfs is an absolute animal. Multi-time state champion wrestler, weight room junkie and a mauler on the field.
mlb1399Forum Veteran"Fishhead wrote:
Isn’t there some question about him and Espensa returning to school?
One of Iowa’s top reporters is saying AJE and Wirfs are going to the NFL. Wirfs has nothing left to prove and what’s he gonna play for? Certainly not a national championship or even a Big 10 championship.