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American Physical Society Opens Debate on Global Warming

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by maynard, Jul 19, 2008.

  1. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

    Dec 5, 2007
    clearwater, fl
    American Physical Society Opens Debate on Global Warming

    The debate is back on with dueling experts as the Physics and Society Forum unit within the American Physical Society (APS), which represents 50,000 physicists, now proclaim that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming.

    On the APS' Physics and Society Forum, which is only 1 of 39 units of the APS itself, has an editors note declaring that "There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for the global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution."

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  2. Ohiophinphan

    Ohiophinphan Chaplain Staff Member Luxury Box

    I remember when John Glenn flew in the Space Shuttle, he was asked what differences he saw compared to his much earlier ride in the Mercury program. He immediately replied that the haze in the atmosphere was far greater.

    I look forward to reading their science but frankly I think the weight of proof lies with those who believe humanity has had no effect on global warming, not those who believe that we have.
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  3. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

    Nov 28, 2007
    North Chicagoland
    I also look forward to it as well.

    Those articles start off a leading misleading, insinuating that all 50,000 scientists have reversed their stance, when in reality, the fact that they're having a debate indicates some level of internal disagreement.

    I don't know what else will be presented, but the premier paper sounds like that Monckton paper which has been around, but doesn't sound as if it has been peer reviewed. That paper is basically a critique of a particular mathematical model.

    If I had to guess, the dissenters are some fraction of the 50K, which is in turn 1/39th of the APS. A small but vocal minority. However, the fact that they're having a debate at all is one of the reasons that science is fundamentally awesome.
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2008
  4. jason8er

    jason8er Luxury Box Luxury Box

    Dec 7, 2007
    Beaufort, SC
    This is not news. Contrary to what bombards you from the media, ALL the "Top Scientists" in the world did not jump on the IPCC's bandwagon. There are plenty who have not. Those who haven't, accuse the ones who have, of "selling out", "seeking fame", "fortune", "grant money", political gain, ect..... I would tend to agree because when I read the numbers, I laugh. I can't believe the gaul and cahones that some individuals have, to try and pull something like this over so many people. Probably because theres a huge conflict of interest involved, and they know that the press will air their garbage over and over until you believe it's fact.
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  5. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    You can fool some of the people all of the time and ALL of the people some of the time. If you tell a lie long enought some/most people believe it to be true.:pity:
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  6. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

    Dec 9, 2007
    East Tennessee
    where is ckb2001 when you need him :(

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