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Alpha Dogs/Culture Change

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    Legit reality or meaningless words?
     
  2. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    Personally I find that pretty hollow. An alpha coach sets the tone and demands respect, he doesn't have to search it out thru players in his roster.
     
  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Suh and Jarvis were alphas but we’re also sh##y leaders..
     
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  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    WADR, all coaches, need player leaders. Shula was an alpha, but he still player leaders to keep the locker rom and various positional rooms doing what they were supposed to.
     
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  5. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Maybe it's just me but Gase looks like he's going crazy. Maybe he'll snap this year.
     
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  6. cbrad

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    It's all or nothing. For the franchise it's good because he's got no excuses and we'll know after this year with a high degree of certainty whether he's our coach of the future or a flop.
     
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  7. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Gase is an alpha play caller we will find out if he’s an alpha coach.

    I don’t get the feeling he’s an alpha personnel manager
     
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  8. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Being a Type A personality doesn’t equate to being a good leader.

    Being a SELFLESS Type A personality on the other hand...
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    I do not take Adam Gase's press conferences with anything but with a grain of salt.

    I do not think he uses them to convey a message to the fans. I think he uses them as a coaching device and for his own amusement.
     
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  10. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End

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    Man i hear that. I've given up on every hearing anything of real value from a press conference. They all appear to be half truths and obfuscations anymore.
     
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  11. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    He definitely has the crazy eyes (see reference HIMYM) in this interview...
     
  12. Dorfdad

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    Man I never really noticed it until now but Gase has crazy man eyes WTF he looks psycothic in that interview
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    fake Alphas.. Jarvis landry and N Suh..

    beat the pats, talk smack then the following week your team doesn't show.
     
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  14. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    Suh is definitely an alpha DT. That's silly to suggest otherwise.
     
  15. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Being an alpha doesn’t equal leadership. Plenty of selfish Alpha dogs in the NFL who hurt their teams.
     
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  16. KeyFin

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    Well, I remember a quote Suh made a few years back that he was the only one doing anything on defense- that nobody except for maybe one other player was preparing right and giving their full effort. You're right- only an alpha could make a statement like that. But the way he said it basically called 20+ other guys on defense a piece of garbage...that's not how you inspire and unite a team.

    A leader makes people around him better and it sounds like Suh was often doing the opposite. Then you look at a guy like Harris who enters the league and says that Cam Wake and JT are working hard with him in the off-season...and these guys are replying that the kid is soaking up all the info he can get his hands on. Suh also praised Harris for his work ethic and dedication- but where's the part where Suh is mentoring this kid and helping him get better? We don't see that anywhere.

    So there's a big difference between a leader and an alpha- they're not always one in the same like Wake is.
     
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  17. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    Considering vets usually mentor players within their own positional group . . .

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. djphinfan

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    we might have different definitions..alphas should be great leaders no?
     
  19. Surfs Up 99

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    Googled it and this is what they said...

    What are the characteristics of an alpha male?

    Characteristics of a Real Man. The Alpha Male, the real man, a man's man, a warrior, a stand-up guy. It doesn't matter what you call him, he's a leader, the guy others look to for motivation, inspiration, and often with a hint of jealousy. He's the man women want, without inention the center of attention.Nov 1, 2012

    Now that I know what I am NOT. I will go hide in my hole now. ;-)
     
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  20. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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  21. KeyFin

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    That's one thing I've always liked about Gase- he's one of the few that will come out and admit he messed up. I think it's crucial to have that honesty because you can't move on and get better without it.

    If you notice though, almost every time Gase is interviewed and someone mentions 6-10, he brings up having his starting QB on the field again. We're a completely different team with Tannehill on the field and I can't wait to see him return.
     
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  22. Fame

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    He literally doesn't blink.
     
  23. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Respectfully, I think this is a very hollow assessment of leadership.
     
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  24. mlb1399

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    I’m at the point in my Dolphin fandom that it’s prove it and I take everything with a grain of salt. We’ve been hearing crap like this for over a decade with no major progress. Their words are meaningless until they prove it on the field.
     
  25. Galant

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    "Adam Gase appeared on WQAM-560’s Joe Rose Show Thursday morning, and covered a lot of important ground.

    So let’s get to it:

    ▪ The Dolphins lost a lot of star power this offseason (Ndamukong Suh, Jarvis Landry and Mike Pouncey, to name a few) but believe they got better. Here’s why.

    1. The way the Dolphins finished the season (three straight losses when three straight wins would have put them in the playoffs) told Gase a lot about who he wanted on his team in 2018.

    “When we look back at it, just the fact that we were right there in the mix at the end,” Gase said. “We end up winning against New England and we have a great shot to go into Buffalo and really make a move and take a rough season and turn that thing around real fast. We didn't get it done. It was not the team we wanted to be.

    “When you hear the word ‘frontrunner’ used by people to describe us, that's something that's not going to be accepted here,” Gase continued. “We're going to make changes and we're going to make sure we get the right people that are going to do things the way we want them. The end of the year told myself a lot, as far as who was in and who was out.”

    2. Cutting Suh’s was the biggest (and most controversial) move of the past few weeks, but beyond chemistry and culture concerns, it appears simply did not fit into the sort of defense the Dolphins want to run with Chrisi Kocurek running the D-line. Suh would have counted more than $50 million against the cap the next two years — too much to have him on the bench. His snap count in 2017 reflected that. He was on field for 84 percent of the Dolphins’ defensive plays. The Dolphins want to go rotational in 2018.

    “We talked about this, how we want to play this thing. The way that Chris Kocurek is going to coach these guys, and the expectation level of how they're going play. He wants these guys to pursue the ball. An eight-man rotation is kind of what Philly did this year, to where, not just defensive ends but I'm talking about defensive tackles too. These guys are going to be pursuing the ball down the field. They're not going to be able to play 80 snaps a game, because that's how much effort they're going to be giving. If that means we need eight guys up every game and we're going to give the kind of effort that I've seen Chris Kocurek's guys have given over the years as defensive line coach, I'm all for it. I want to see the passion and the effort that I've seen out of his guys in the past. I want to see our guys doing that.”

    ▪ Two ACL injuries in eight months ruined Ryan Tannehill’s 2017 season, and by extension, the Dolphins’ 2017 season.

    But Gase said Tannehill, since his surgery some seven months ago, “has given you everything he has. He's gone above and beyond in his rehab. He is really pushing hard to make sure that he's better than he's ever been, especially healthy-wise.”

    Gase expects Tannehill to work with the team this spring, but will “be smart with what we do in practice. See how everything goes. But if I try to restrict him in any way, that's going not go over real well with him. He's such a competitor. He knows his body. He knows how he's feeling.”

    ▪ A series of injuries have stunted DeVante Parker’s growth as a pro, but the Dolphins still have hopes that their former first-round pick can be an elite player.

    “He wants to be one of those guys that people are talking about at the top,” Gase said. “He wants that. He's done so much to try to put himself in a position to where he can stay healthy. When he gets on the field, he knows exactly what the quarterback is looking for and when he gets the opportunity to make plays, he makes plays. It hasn't gone perfect for him, where he's had injuries.”

    Parker dealt with a high-ankle sprain for most of last season, but still caught a career-high 57 balls for 670 yards and a touchdown.

    ▪ Jarvis Landry was ejected on his final snap as a Dolphin. He got kicked out of the Bills game for starting an ugly fight, and that behavior seems to have contributed to the Dolphins’ decision to trade him to Cleveland.

    “After that last game, that was hard,” Gase said. “With him and Drake getting ejected, it was such a rough way for that last game to end and our season to end that way. He had a great season. I wish we would have won more games. It was good to get him touchdowns to make sure that wasn't a topic of converastion. I know that something going into the season we wanted to make sure did a good in the red zone and make sure we gave him opportunities to get into the end zone. That worked out. Overall as a team, it just didin't work out the way we wanted to. That what happens when a guy has a lot of production. He gets into that last year of his contract. It's tough to go through those business decisions and those contract negotiations. Those things can get pretty intense sometimes.”"
     
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  26. danmarino

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    I agree.

    Leadership is definitely having the ability to motivate, but it can't make stupid smart or lazy attentive. At least not 100% of the time.

    As a former Marine SNCO I've led many men. I tried my best to create a culture of responsibility and self-motivation. And I definitely sought out Marines who were better motivated in order to help me lead. I've also been sent to units that were full of lazy and unmotivated Marines that I couldn't get anything out of other than the bare minimum. Some of those Marines I was able to get to and some I was not. The belief that a leader is good only if they are able to motivate all and gain respect from every person is false and unrealistic. In fact, anyone who claims such things has never been a leader.
     
  27. muscle979

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    Really couldn't agree with you more here. I think in sports it's easy to envision this leader archetype of some steel jawed man who inspires all while simultaneously being too 'effective' and intimidating to ever experience dissent from among his ranks. Maybe leaders like that exist somewhere but usually not. I don't think you can expect to bring in a young leader and not have bumps in the road. As a matter of fact I think considering all of the crap thrown on him he's handling it relatively well. I mean look at how Cam Cameron handled the team... LOL. Or even Philbin. I think Gase is a guy who probably understands that watching Straight Outta Compton with the team isn't really the way to earn their respect and trust.
     
  28. Surfs Up 99

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    The Dolphins will be a great opportunity for some under the radar players this year. Gase is looking for players who are unselfish and are ready to buy-in on the plan and give total effort. Those that do, and who manage to be productive and contribute could be looking at more recognition and money down the line. It could be win-win for those that have the right attitude.
     
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