Ahmad Bradshaw Wants to be a Dolphin

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  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Either way I have a feeling about Bradshaw. He's young, he's only really had two years of getting carries. In fact 2010 was the first time he really carried a bell cow's weight and it was still under 300 carries. He didn't have his carries depressed because of injuries, though he has had some corrective surgeries during the off season (don't they all?). I think he's poised to be a breakout player.

    Naturally, Miami won't sign him.
     
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  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I think it'll be an opportunity to show that they're doing it right or doing it wrong. And I have my guess as to which it'll be.
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I agree Deej, and that is a underrated factor in whom we bring in via FA, Miami is simply choc a bloc full of distractions and not every player can deal with them and remain as good as they were prior to coming here.
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    hmmm, not aggressive enough..maybe so, maybe he wasn't responsible for players like Wilford, Smiley, Grove, Torbor...Maybe he was responsible for being aggressive and trading for Marshall, and signing a great inside linebacker.
     
  5. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Ultimately, he needs to be responsible for acquiring a franchise quarterback, for reducing the dollar amount dedicated to the offensive line, and for fixing the RB position without overspending, among other things.

    I find it difficult to believe that a Miami-based football team couldn't attract players like Eric Weddle, Brandon Siler, Marshal Yanda, etc. Of course, we managed to scare Ryan Clark away somehow.
     
  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    nah I wouldn't think that, I have respect for your judgement..What I'am saying is, this team, in this town, needs the tough football player, the player that doesn't give a sh%$ about anything but football..I think our culture is very detrimental to players who do not have a very thick skin, or to people who could be in it for the wrong reasons..I like the players on our team, and I don't think Sparano wants a bunch of robots, he wants his team to play with emotion and passion, but he wants the right guys first.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Who do you think called the shots on players the first year of this gig?, Parcells or Irish?..for all we know Irish would of drafted Matt Ryan, cause I sure am confident that Parcells would no way allow Irish to play with a 50 million dollar contract as his first signing..We just don't know yet, I don't think there is enough data to accurately judge his aggressiveness..

    I do think we will spend the money we have, I don't think we will cut corners, I think with his philosophy now, its time to sprinkle in some free agents to go along with this very young football team.
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I find it curious that you consider our positions mutually exclusive. Someone who wants to live in Miami automatically doesn't care about football? Why?
     
  9. Stringer Bell

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    Don't forget Calvin Pace as well.

    Although the whole Ryan Clark thing seems like we were just helping leverage the Steelers.
     
  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    why do you say ''naturally''?, where does that perception come from? do you think that is deserved?
     
  11. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    The move for Marshall, trade or not, was very aggressive. Trading away 2 high picks for a young talented playmaker is aggressive anyway you slice it. The Dansby move, as you acknowledged, was also very aggressive.

    And to be fair... last offseason was the first that really warranted aggressive moves for this regime. 2008, we were coming off a 1-15 year and that is not the time to be trying to spend big $$$ in FA. Need the foundation first. In 2009, we were coming off a great year and established a pretty solid foundation... but we were set to lose some key pieces to that foundation that all needed re-signing (Carey, Bell, Crowder, WAllen, Ricky, etc)... so a good chunk of our offseason budget went to that. And then last year, with our foundation set in stone, we went out and made 2 very aggressive moves to improve both sides of the ball. I would expect that aggressivenessto continue this offseason, especially with the heat being turned up on the FO.

    You disagree?
     
  12. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    don't think a RB is our #1 priority. the stable is flush as it stands, we have other more pressing needs like a veteran QB that can compete for the start & an elite left guard to round out the offensive line.

    I place RB on the same tier of necessity as a DB, would be nice but not a game changer in free agency for 2011.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think there is a fine line Des. I really believe you have to find a player that has the makeup that can deal with the culture here, and when I say culture, I mean from 2 perspectives, 1 being, its not a culture than can motivate a football player, and 2, its a culture that can pull a weaker player away from their football goals.
     
  14. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    we do not need another running back
    we need an elite left Pulling-Guard & a veteran QB that can compete for the start

    Kory Sheets 5-11 206
    Ricky Williams 5-11 230
    Ronnie Brown 6-0 230
    Lousaka Polite 6-0 245
    Danial Thomas 6-0 230


    and then there's Hilliard. what to do? think about it.
    complete the offensive line & the run is there...
     
  15. ckparrothead

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    Somewhat deserved, yes. They gave a big contract to Karlos Dansby but that's something even Parcells would have probably done. He's had a thing for Dansby forever, and is just the kind of player he likes...a huge linebacker that blitzes well. Brandon Marshall was pressure from above, from Stephen Ross. I don't think Stephen Ross will pressure them to take Ahmad Bradshaw.
     
  16. Southbeach

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    If Ross has anything to say, which I hope he does not, he will want Bush.
     
  17. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    re-sign Ronnie and/or Ricky @ a reasonable price, then go find a QB & LG in free-agency
     
  18. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    And what exactly do you base this on?
     
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  19. ckparrothead

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    If Stephen Ross says anything about anything it will be to get a big name QB like Donovan McNabb or Vince Young.
     
  20. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    re-sign Ronnie and/or Ricky @ a reasonable price, then go find a QB & LG in free-agency
     
  21. djphinfan

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    lol..Ronnie was part of the problem with this team last year 23rd, and ricky is 34 years old..Ronnie is going to probably get as much as Bradshaw on the open market, and at this point, based on how angry I was watching all of ronnie snaps over again, I'd rather have bradshaw...Ronnie Brown was on a different planet last year..Not only is he slow as hell, but he doesn't run in a traditional style that is condusive to picking up 4 or 5 yards per carry, basically he doesn't have it in him to run thru the hole at full speed, and I'am tired of waiting on him to do so.. I would take ronnie brown seriously this year and consider him is if he was down to a legit 220-225, and I knew he was on a strict diet..
     
  22. VanDolPhan

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    Calvin Pace got paid more then the Dolphins were willing to pay and was the right move in respect. Signing Pace might have made the team not go so hard after Cameron Wake. Also we'd end up with a cheating linebacker (was suspended for 4 games for performance enhancers) that would be, right now, 1 strike from a year suspension.
     
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  23. Southbeach

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    "STAR POWER" Bush brings it, no one else does.
     
  24. Ozzy

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    Yep, there goes the rumor that Drew and all the other agents will steer their clients away from Miami since the organization is in a shambles
     
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  25. Alex13

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    man do i hope he does
     
  26. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    There's no one correct way to do things as a GM.

    You have the Mike Tannenbaums who are highly aggressive and get after it.

    You also have the Pittsburgh Steelers, who more often than not let the star player (err....linebacker) leave for greener pastures and continue on as one of the league's top teams.

    The methods may differ, but the common denominator is excellent evaluation of talent and the vision to truly see the grand scheme of things. Jury's still out on Jeff Ireland.
     
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  27. ckparrothead

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    But there sure are incorrect ways.
     
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  28. slickj101

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    **** it let's just throw a 4th or 5th at AZ for Beanie Wells.
     
  29. Disgustipate

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    I certainly don't. I'd be happy with them signing Bradshaw, but I'd rather Ross not even superficially get into talent acquisition. Maybe he's some sort of real estate savant, but he certainly seems like a dumb**** when it comes to every other thing he's done in regards to the Dolphins.
     
  30. GARDENHEAD

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    I really hate it that I agree with this.
     
  31. rdhstlr23

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    I love Ahmad Bradshaw. Liked him since he was at Marshall. I'd be good with the signing.

    I heard the show. He didn't exactly say he wanted to go to Miami. Drew Rosenhaus said he is interested in Miami on a radio show. I know he's personally said that he would like to be back in NY, but doesn't know what the situation is with him and Jacobs. If New York offers him a large contract in that 3 day window, I think he'll take it rather than testing FA. I don't see him leaving the NYG.
     
  32. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So, your the GM, its your first gig, after 3 seasons on the job, after inheriting the worst team in football with the #1 pick, Iam gonna judge you..

    1}..you have a winning record during the process of the rebuild...nice job..I appreciate that considering your starting point.

    2} you have won a division title during the rebuild, and made history doing so..nice job..Pretty freakin amazing if you ask me.

    3} you have put us in a favorable position as far as the salary cap..nice job..

    4} you have turned us into having one of the youngest rosters in the league..nice job.

    5}, you have accomplished these things without playing a down in your 4th season..nice job.

    Because you have not found a QB that we are all completely sold on, you and your coaches, and the job you have done so far, sucks, and we don't think you deserve a chance at your 4th year.

    I don't think they deserve that.
     
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  33. dolfan22

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    Like not addressing the QB position correctly?
     
  34. Desides

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    Since when does Stephen Ross care about "STAR POWER" on the football field? Otherwise we'd have traded for Donovan McNabb instead of Washington, or we'd have Terrell Owens on the team.
     
  35. ckparrothead

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    I notice your glass-half-full analysis glosses over the timing of the 11 win season, the division title, etc.

    Here's what I see as I'm looking at the tenure of this GM.

    1. Three years, and your plan at the quarterback position is to hold onto a thin tendril of a hope that Chad Henne is good.

    2. You have (in all likelihood) not just busted out on one high round QB, but actually two high round QBs. Most agree that busting out on one high round QB prospect is usually good enough to earn you your walking papers.

    3. Your 2010 team was worse than your 2009 team, which was worse than your 2008 team, and that 2008 team was more than half-consisted of players that were put in place by previous management. In other words, the more you've made your mark on the roster since that initial Parcells-led overhaul, the worse the team has gotten.

    Absent some hail mary shot in free agency, it's difficult to see this regime lasting through 2011.
     
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  36. ckparrothead

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    Prioritizing the quarterback position like it's no different from any other position.
     
  37. slickj101

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    You're also missing the fact that even though Ireland has had the GM title during that entire time, he may have only had the complete control that comes with it since Parcells has been gone.

    You're trying to credit Parcells with the initial overhaul but not also saddling him with the misses, a la Pat White. How was that for a thin tendril of hope at QB?
     
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  38. ckparrothead

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    I think most close to the organization would agree that Bill Parcells led the front office effort in 2008 but stepped back in 2009 and 2010.
     
  39. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    We're only guessing and you certainly have no basis to assume which players/issues he did or did not have a hand in (aside from the ones that they've confirmed). I find it hard to believe that the same guy who thought Pat White was a good idea; completely washed his hands and said you guys are crazy for taking Chad Henne. Either way, BP did nothing to solve the QB problems that you love to cite others for.

    You gotta give Ireland a fair amount of time before you can rate what he's done. I think it's safe to say he's done enough to deserve the shot. His success doesn't live or die with Henne either.
     
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  40. djphinfan

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    so you leave no leeway at all in your judgement of a front office thats inherits the worst team in football, no understanding of a losing season or 2 from a rebuild like this...I'am sorry, name me another regime that has a better record after 3 years?, the bottom line is, wins and keeping competitive while the rebuilding is happening, I think that is what's fair, and if you ask around the league, especially good teams, they will tell you that our team has been just that thru this process..It is a process CK, a huge one at that, and there can be no other holdover emotions from the previous regimes and histories of this franchise to interfere with accurate current analysis..

    You call me a hall full guy, because I state facts and give them a reasonable timeline relative to the starting point, I call that doing things the way its should be done..

    4 year plan, always has, always will, for any regime inheriting the 1st pick, thats not half full thinking, that's fair thinking, ask anyone who knows anything about this business.
     

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