A serious look at Suck for Luck

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  1. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    AZ & STL....best case is a split....but if STL sweeps they are done....if AZ sweeps they move to 3 wins and are clearly done.

    But a split knocks out AZ anyway.
     
  2. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    STL & AZ split knocks out AZ....and if STL beats SEA once...woot..knocks STL out.

    Minny should grab 2nd win vs DEN at the latest. knocks them out.

    So, have to figure our Colts wins....could be neck and neck for sure till week 17. Need SoS%!

    that seems to be the 1 win race...(if we find a miracle to win 1)
     
  3. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Just pointing out that MN and Jax have two wins, basically it is down to Miami, Indy, AZ, Stl.
     
  5. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Feel 1 Win secures #1 too.

    Hoping Indy fines a way to grab 2....I think actually every NFL team will have 2 wins....but honestly, I want Miami to have 1, but seems unlikely. I will be sad if so.

    Also, even though we have a small SoS% lead going into MNF....will be hard to hold off Indy or AZ if we are tied with 1 win, etc.
     
  6. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    updated not including tonights MNF (P.S. best case to help us is KC win...and SD loss since KC is also on IND sched but SD is only on ours).

    Using the GBN full opponent listing for SoS % we still have a slight edge for #1 overall

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  7. schmolioot

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    One thing going for us in SOS is that Indy plays the much tougher AFC North and NFC South. 3 teams could reach 10 wins in both those divisions. By contrast I think the Eagles and Giants are the only threats for double digits in the East and the aFc West could be won at 9-7.

    Also, the AFC East may end up a wash with the South as NE problably will win it but with only 10 or 11. If either the Jets or Bills come back to Earth (8-8 or so) we could sneak ahead of Indy.
     
  8. Fin-Omenal

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    Indy has a three game home stretch, its time to grab this #1 pick by the horns.
     
  9. BigDogsHunt

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    Updated to include KC win and SD loss from MNF...Week 8 completed

    Miami is trailing in SoS% if tiebreaker is needed, mainly do to JAC 2 wins benefiting Indy twice per weaker div.

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  10. padre31

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    Well, Colts raised the bar on SFL

    We moved away from it with the win.

    Rams have one win, vicitim of the Cards Punt Return Td in OT

    Cards pull off the win in OT to have 2 wins

    Jags have their Bye

    So far, 3 wins is sort of the floor, meaning

    Colts
    Rams
    Dolphins
    Jags
    Cards

    Are still in the hunt with 2 wins or less.

    ATM, it appears to me we in line for the #3 overall pick, which strategically..sux, here is why:

    -Colts take Luck, as expected
    -Rams have bradford and a new regime, one that has every reason to trade back and away from the #2, because we are 3rd in the draft order at the top of each rd, to trade up would be costly.

    That opens the door wide for the Browns to move in, with 2 #1's, they can offer the second #1 to move up, or their high #1 and a #3.

    I'm not a SFLer, not at all, teams win football games in the NFL, now if it is week 15, and we are tied with the Colts, then sure, otherwise, a team should go all out to win and I expect them to win.
     
  11. Jaj

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    Pad you'll be happy to note that the much maligned D is 12th now in the league. They have the opportunity to really hammer the Redskins struggling O next week but we'll see if they continue to fight. I expect Vontae to respond and play well.
     
  12. padre31

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    DC has 3 wins though, like the Brownies, who are sitting pretty for a great draft in 2012, 2 #1's in this draft class, and their likely to pick top 10 again with one of them
     

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