A Personal Take on Draft Expectation
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GalantForum VeteranOP
Just saw that image on a Twitter post. I like it, because, although I have my preferred QB's for the draft, and some that will give me pause for thought if selected, my attitude towards this draft has become wait and see and trust in Flores and Grier.
A skeptical mind might not use the word 'trust' and just say, "wait and see", but honestly, I'm feeling positive about Flores at this point, and hopeful that Grier can get this done.
Ultimately, if the Dolphins are actually at the start of new success it'll be those two men who are chiefly responsible - and if not, the same - and what I really, really want to see is success, and don't care how it comes. So if Herbert (who I'm not high on) is picked and goes on to be legit, I'll be happy. If the other selections are made and work out, I'll be happy. I just want to see growth and success.
So my approach has grown into spectator mode. I'm watching, trying to form my own opinions, see and learn, but ultimately, I hopeful about the future results and looking forward to what comes. Whatever happens this draft season, I'm going to reserve judgement, and see what happens.
It's a nice place to be.
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I personally dont have any faith in Flores myself. I think a great QB could save him and give him success like most average coaches.
That said, we cant control any moves so wait and see is all we can do.
Phin McCoolForum VeteranBomb for Fromm
Lose for Love
Hurt for Jaylen
Dung for Young
Last Place for Chase
Sherbert for Herbert
Ok, I know the last one doesn't make sense but there again, neither does drafting Jaylen Hurts either.
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KeyFinForum Veteran"Phin McCool wrote:
Bomb for Fromm
Lose for Love
Hurt for Jaylen
Dung for Young
Last Place for Chase
Sherbert for HerbertOk, I know the last one doesn't make sense but there again, neither does drafting Jaylen Hurts either.
I'd go with- Eat Dirt for Herbert
...and I like Jalen Hurts as a development prospect.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
Dol-Fan DupreeForum Veteran"KeyFin wrote:
I'd go with- Eat Dirt for Herbert
...and I like Jalen Hurts as a development prospect.
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Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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mlb1399Forum VeteranI really like what I’ve seen from Flores. He’s got these guys playing above their talent level. Unfortunately, we’re just undermanned in almost every game.
For me, the jury is still out on Grier. I don’t have a ton of confidence in him.
Having said that, I’ve got 3 choices: 1) be optimistic, 2) be pessimistic, 3) not care.
I’m choosing 1. I understand why people choose the other options but I’d rather err in the side of hope.
Dol-Fan DupreeForum Veteran"mlb1399 wrote:
I really like what I’ve seen from Flores. He’s got these guys playing above their talent level. Unfortunately, we’re just undermanned in almost every game.
For me, the jury is still out on Grier. I don’t have a ton of confidence in him.
Having said that, I’ve got 3 choices: 1) be optimistic, 2) be pessimistic, 3) not give a s**t.
I’m choosing 1. I understand why people choose the other options but I’d rather err in the side of hope.
I have faith in Grier because he hired Marvin Allen and Reggie McKenzie.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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The_Dark_KnightForum Veteran"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:
I personally dont have any faith in Flores myself. I think a great QB could save him and give him success like most average coaches.
That said, we cant control any moves so wait and see is all we can do.
Well that settles it. Miami should fire Flores and every other coach and just draft a quarterback. We can go back to the good old days and have a player coach
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"The_Dark_Knight wrote:
Well that settles it. Miami should fire Flores and every other coach and just draft a quarterback. We can go back to the good old days and have a player coach
Not sure how you took any of that from what I said. I can recommend some good reading comprehension courses if youd like though.
A lot of average coaches have their tenures extended by above average QB.
That doesnt mean a QB is winning a title without a coach nor does it imply it. You seem to take peoples small comments and fly off the handle with bad logic.
Vertical LimitForum VeteranFlores is gonna get another year or two to get it right in Miami.
I think the real question mark is Chris Grier.. should we trust this guy with all the cap space and draft picks.. or should Ross send a brinks truck to Ozzie Newsome..
Deus ex dolphinForum Veteran"Vertical Limit wrote:
Flores is gonna get another year or two to get it right in Miami.
I think the real question mark is Chris Grier.. should we trust this guy with all the cap space and draft picks.. or should Ross send a brinks truck to Ozzie Newsome..
Given his track record of success, Ross needs to offer Ozzie big money and allow him to hire and fire as he feels is needed.
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
phinswolverinesrocketsForum VeteranI have 0% faith in Grier. Passing on Lamar Jackson is unforgivable. I've been saying it since we passed on him. I probably sound like a broken record, but I don't care. I'm highly annoyed at the stupidity of this front office.
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Dol-Fan DupreeForum Veteran"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
I have 0% faith in Grier. Passing on Lamar Jackson is unforgivable. I've been saying it since we passed on him. I probably sound like a broken record, but I don't care. I'm highly annoyed at the stupidity of this front office.
Gase would have ruined Jackson. Tried to make him a quick throw quarterback
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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phinswolverinesrocketsForum Veteran"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
Gase would have ruined Jackson. Tried to make him a quick throw quarterback
Gase would have been too dumb to even play him. He would have stuck with Tannehill and still gotten fired most likely. John Harbaugh was 4-6 last year and was on his way to getting fired before Lamar took over. We could have hired Harbaugh and given him Lamar.
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Dol-Fan DupreeForum Veteran"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
Gase would have been too dumb to even play him. He would have stuck with Tannehill and still gotten fired most likely. John Harbaugh was 4-6 last year and was on his way to getting fired before Lamar took over. We could have hired Harbaugh and given him Lamar.
He probably would have gotten one more year with the drafting of Lamar.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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I still dont see Lamar having long term success so I think it's an irrelevant discussion honestly.
texanphinaticForum VeteranBurrow under for Burrows!
But for real, I don't have any reason to have faith in Flores developing a QB, mainly because he really hasn't had to do so. I think we have no choice but to have faith in Grier's ability to pick a QB who has both high end raw talent, but also the ability to fit the scheme that Flores' offensive staff wants to run and have in place.
"texanphinatic wrote:
Burrow under for Burrows!
But for real, I don't have any reason to have faith in Flores developing a QB, mainly because he really hasn't had to do so. I think we have no choice but to have faith in Grier's ability to pick a QB who has both high end raw talent, but also the ability to fit the scheme that Flores' offensive staff wants to run and have in place.
What is that scheme btw?
I'm asking legitimately as maybe someone has picked up on something I havent, but it doesnt seem like we have much identity on offense. Even an attempted identity.
BevoPhinForum Veteran"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
I have 0% faith in Grier. Passing on Lamar Jackson is unforgivable. I've been saying it since we passed on him. I probably sound like a broken record, but I don't care. I'm highly annoyed at the stupidity of this front office.
Grier has given us no reason to trust him with all of these draft picks. He’s doing a fine job accumulating picks, but I don’t want him picking the players.
Lamar looks good and I wish we had him now, but I said the same thing about RG3 early in his career.
texanphinaticForum Veteran"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:
What is that scheme btw?
I'm asking legitimately as maybe someone has picked up on something I havent, but it doesnt seem like we have much identity on offense. Even an attempted identity.
Couldn't tell you - it's more about what they want to run. At this point, the offense is so talent bereft its meaningless. Rumor was they are targetting QBs who are mobile (Tua/Love) over more fully pocket oriented guys like Burrow. But who really knows.
GalantForum VeteranWith regards to Grier I'm willing to give him a season, maybe two. It's only his first season as GM with the freedom to do whatever he wants along with Flores. So let's see how it goes.
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Deus ex dolphinForum Veteran"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:
What is that scheme btw?
I'm asking legitimately as maybe someone has picked up on something I havent, but it doesnt seem like we have much identity on offense. Even an attempted identity.
The offense runs through Ballage. Not the best plan, to be honest. :no:
A terrible play call, terribly executed.
jdallen1222Forum Veteran"Deus ex dolphin wrote:
The offense runs through Ballage. Not the best plan, to be honest. :no:
Wait until Walton comes back from suspension.
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TheHighExhaultedForum Veteran"Deus ex dolphin wrote:
The offense runs through Ballage. Not the best plan, to be honest. :no:
9 rushes for 9 yards and 5 catches for 8 yards has to be a record bad output for that many touches.
Patster1969Supporter"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
I have 0% faith in Grier. Passing on Lamar Jackson is unforgivable. I've been saying it since we passed on him. I probably sound like a broken record, but I don't care. I'm highly annoyed at the stupidity of this front office.
26 other teams also passed on him