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Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Unlucky 13, Nov 2, 2018.
I still almost call our stadium "Pro Player Stadium" I am 100% with you on doing that at times.
Ugh no. CitiField will always be Shea Stadium. Or ****tyField.
But they're two different stadiums!
Ya one we had good owners for and the one not so much.
Speaking of weird ballpark measurements!
Geeze, 201 feet? I might be able to hit a HR and I've barely played baseball since I was a child.
MLB is expected to suspend, and possibly end, Spring Training as soon as today. The start of the regular season will also likely be effected.
Opening day postponed for at least 2 weeks.
Spring Training is now also over, and will not resume. So obviously the question becomes how quickly the pandemic passes and its deemed safe for people to gather in large crowds again. Because no one knows that, of course no one knows when the MLB season will start.
However, if players are off for months before the real games start, you would have to think that teams would gather at their ST facilities for a few weeks before regular season games actually begin. There's a solid chance that the 2020 season ends up being shorter than the strike shortened 1994 one, which lost about seven weeks.
I just read that Illinois governor has recommended shutting down all sports until at least May. So that would obviously effect the Cubs, White Sox, and all of the teams they would potentially host.
I would guess that other areas make similar moves soon too.
Now, the thinking is apparently that MLB wants to still play all 162 games, even if the regular season starts in May. I say that's stupid and insane. Figure out a reasonable number from when you're able to start again, and end the regular season when its supposed to. That might be 120 games, it might be 100, it might be 80.
Given the government guidelines about people not gathering in large groups for at least eight weeks, this means that MLB will now absolutely not start until June, and likely later. It will be interesting to see not only how this all plays out, but also how it effects the future, with things like player contracts and time earned.
I fully expect the MLB to use it as an advantage to experiment with a shorter season.
Well, not as short as its going to be this year though. I know that they've talked about 150 games or so. We might be lucky to get 80.
80 games? At that point it doesn't even seem worth playing the season at all. I think baseball can be played without fans for the first part of the season. Just when it is cleared the teams should offer a special for the fans.
At this point, there are restrictions against groups of even ten people getting together, so nothing can happen at all. Even a group of 50 would limit it to one team and their personnel. So until things get much better, even the idea of games with no fans is far off.
Right now, 120 games seems like a best case scenario, but far from a guarantee. That said, there is no way that MLB and the owners are just going to give up on playing the season until they absolutely have to. But if we get to August and things are still as bad as they are today, then I think it'll have to happen.
I don't see them preferring a shorter season, that's lost revenue. I also think you would get some backlash from players because it could potentially disrupt and decrease counting stats and reset contract discussions at lower prices. Less games seems mostly a fan construct. I'd be happy with shorter games or less breaks, namely through limiting pitching changes and manager/catcher mound visits. A pitch clock to get the slower pitchers moving faster would also be good.
I love baseball, but a slow pitcher with lots of changes/visits that drag games into the 3.5-4hr range? That's just a slog.
You really think that they'll start a 162 game season in June, or later? I mean, you'll be playing regular season games until Thanksgiving, or Christmas.
No, I was speaking in general terms - I don't think the league, owners or players really have interest in a permanent reduction in games.
There is no question that if this year happens at all, it will be significantly reduced, but that's out of their control mostly.
Ah, gotcha. Big picture, long term, I would have agreed that they were unlikely to reduce the number of games. But apparently the commish and some owners want to do so.
Apparently, the 2020 MLB draft simply not happening is a legit possibility now. Meanwhile, the union allegedly wants all players to be credited with a full year of service time even if no games are played.
**** **** **** **** **** **** Thor needs TJ surgery
Well, if you're going to get it done, this year is probably the time to do it.
Because we are already at the start of the year he’s probably missing the first couple of months of next year. If there’s no year at all this year it’s less painful.
I guess Brodie was right for going in to camp with 6 legit starters. Now it’s basically Stroman, Matz and Porcello as their 2/3/4. Still better then many but not as good as it could be.
Hopefully Peterson is close to ready cause no one wants to see Wacha every 5th day.
You're right. And even today, the surgery isn't a guaranteed success. Some guys take a while to get back, and some never get there. Yu Darvish had it done in 2015, and he's only started 30 games twice since. Kerry Wood had it at age 22, and was basically done as a starter by age 26, after which he suffered through several more injury marred years before having one good year as a closer, and was a shell of himself by 32.
Well aren’t you a bucket of rainbows. Lol.
I’ll be a little more optimistic and hope it’s more Adam Wainright or Jacob Degrom (has it in the minors)
Lol sorry. We're all going to have the cases that effect our own teams at the top of our minds, right?
If he is even able to have it done now with voluntary/non-emergency surgeries curtailed in many spots. Anyone know if Sale has actually gotten his yet, or still waiting?
I have not. Its a difficult time to try and get an elective surgery, of course. I did get surprised when I saw this, though:
So Sale is expected to not just miss all of this year (obviously) but all of 2021 as well, and maybe into the 2022 season. He turns 31 this week, so he's basically out until he turns 33. And meanwhile, the BoSox are paying him 60 million bucks to get healthy in the process, and then hope he can come back the same dude. Ouch.
I don’t know what the Sox are waiting for? I get that hospitals are booked but for something like you go to the hospital for special surgery and you’re done in 69-90 minutes. Those types of hospitals will not be dealing with COVID-19 like others. Syndergaard is scheduled for the 26th (tomorrow). Nows the time to just get it done if you have to. I wish the Mets would have come to the conclusion a month or two ago and Noah May have had a shot to be ready early in 2021 as opposed to the all star break or thereabouts.
Unfortunately, as bed and hospital space decreases those facilities may end up being used for Coronavirus patients.
Though I agree, if it can be done, do it ASAP.
Can’t speak for other areas of the country but the plan is to use dorms and some public places such as the Javits center for emergency care space. And like I said something like TJS is a 60-90 minute procedure. The only resource that would actually impact anything is they’d need to borrow an anesthesiologist for a few minutes to put the pitcher under. Not life altering.
Here in Virginia, you can't even get into the hospital unless you're an employee or have an urgent procedure. All elective procedures, including dental and eye clinics, are shut down until the end of next month. Someone I know had an eye surgery scheduled for months, and they postponed it to an unknown date in the future until things get better.
Honestly I wouldn’t go to a hospital right now unless I already had it. Probably for the better.
My wife just told me that as if today, their hospital policies have changed so that all personnel wear a mask every time they have any interaction with a patient.
Lots of info about how MLB is planning to go forward with things:
Basically, teams will lose a full year of control should the season not happen. Players who were scheduled to be free agents in November still will be, and players who have two years on their deal would still go into 2021 in the final year of control or their contract. This would of course rob the teams of trying to trade those players away at mid season and get a return before they leave as free agents. Teams who planned to do business this way get the shaft.
For my Cubs, that would mean going into 2021 with Kris Bryant, Javy Baez and Kyle Schwarber all with just one more season, and trying to figure out, having seen none of them play since September of 2019, how big of an extension to offer, or whether they try and trade them away. This will obviously put teams that have most of their important players locked up for many years at a highly advantageous position over those that currently do not.
Honestly, unless a majority of the season is played, I hate that idea.
Its giving certain teams an advantage based on unforeseen circumstances.
Sale had his surgery today.
Good luck to him. Looks like we won't be seeing him for quite a while.