2011 NBA Draft Thread

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, seems to me that every league tries to match the NFL's Draft Coverage, the NBA is not exception, though no league has really matched the intensity of the NFL version wherein even 7th rd picks are argued over amongst fans.


    Draft Order:

    First Round
    1. Cleveland (from L.A. Clippers)
    2. Minnesota
    3. Utah (from New Jersey)
    4. Cleveland
    5. Toronto
    6. Washington
    7. Sacramento
    8. Detroit
    9. Charlotte
    10. Milwaukee
    11. Golden State
    12. Utah
    13. Phoenix
    14. Houston
    15. Indiana
    16. Philadelphia
    17. New York
    18. Washington (from Atlanta)
    19. Charlotte (from New Orleans via Portland)
    20. Minnesota (from Memphis via Utah)
    21. Portland
    22. Denver
    23. Houston (from Orlando via Phoenix)
    24. Oklahoma City
    25. Boston
    26. Dallas
    27. New Jersey (from L.A. Lakers)
    28. Chicago (from Miami via Toronto)
    29. San Antonio
    30. Chicago
    Second Round
    31. Miami (from Minnesota)
    32. Cleveland
    33. Detroit (from Toronto)
    34. Washington
    35. Sacramento
    36. New Jersey
    37. L.A. Clippers (from Detroit)
    38. Houston (from L.A. Clippers)
    39. Charlotte
    40. Milwaukee
    41. L.A. Lakers (from Golden State via New Jersey)
    42. Indiana
    43. Chicago (from Utah)
    44. Golden State (from Phoenix via Chicago)
    45. New Orleans (from Philadelphia)
    46. L.A. Lakers (from New York)
    47. L.A. Clippers (from Houston)
    48. Atlanta
    49. Memphis
    50. Philadelphia (from New Orleans)
    51. y-Portland
    52. z-Denver
    53. Orlando
    54. Cleveland (from Oklahoma City via Miami)
    55. Boston
    56. L.A. Lakers
    57. Dallas
    58. L.A. Lakers (from Miami)
    59. San Antonio
    60. Sacramento (from Chicago via Milwaukee)

    Mock drafts:

    http://walterfootball.com/nbadraft2011mock.php

    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/


    One of the stranger aspects of the NBA draft process is it is not unusual for Top 10 picks to not play for their drafting teams for several yrs, in the NFL that is unheard of, in the NBA it is standard fare, the only other league that has a process similar to that is the CFL, MLB has a 1 yr window to sign a drafted player, the NHL has a shorter deadline iirc, the other odd thing about the NBA's way of approaching the draft is a player who stays until they are even a Junior is deemed as not having been good enough to come out after their freshman season, which is one of the reason I consider the NBA rather short sighted, it is all about premeire athleticism and not athleticism+experienced and ready to contribute, so the game is sort of dumbed down to take advantage of the athletic talent and not so much scheme and basketball skills like hitting free throws are handling the ball by non pg's.

    As for the draft class itself, I suspect some team will be quite happy other teams passed on Brandon Knight of KY, PG's are sort of the engine of the NBA, big men sort of pay the rent.
     
  2. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Simple numbers really. The NFL and CFL have roster sizes of 50+ and practice squads to consider, and 22 starters + specialists on special teams. MLB has an active roster of 25 I believe, including 40 in the preseason, and a total of 9 starters + pitchers. Even the NHL allows you to carry 23 on your roster despite only having 6 starting positions, as they do a lot more line swaps, etc. The NBA has 12 spots and 5 starting positions - and it's arguably the second most popular game in the United States. That's not a lot of spots for a lot of potential players.
     
  3. padre31

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    Not the same as top 5 picks not playing for their drafting teams' organization for yrs is unheard of in any other league VO, which is one of the problems, it is fine that Ricky Rubio wanted to play in Spain, but a Top 5 pick on him won't pay off anything for 3 seasons?

    Other leagues also train up their draftees in their organizations if they do not play quickly, in MLB or the NHL they have minor leagues, the NBA takes guys who are on other teams in other leagues and when they finally do arrive they start over at -0-.

    For example if a Franchise wanted Rubio to improve his 3 pt shooting, they could simply make it known to him, while he is on another team in another league whatever his perceived weaknesses are simply will not be addressed until he plays for the NBA team.

    That is how we see spectacles such as the 1-3-1 zone befuddling the most physically talented players in the NBA, they have not been trained to deal with it and won't be trained in how to defeat it until they have to in NBA games.
     
  4. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Well it never used to be like that. Think back to the great draft classes of the 80s. What has happened since? Players coming out after graduating high school as well as the growing international pool has dilluted the youth movement with talent. You've got international leagues where these players can play, or sit on the bench in the NBA... and where are the American developmental leagues?
     
  5. alen1

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    NBDL baby!
     
  6. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Cant wait to see where my boy Marshon Brooks goes. Whoever gets this kid, gets an NBA ready player.....Fin-O hearing alot of Knicks love for him....hearing Cavs are interested in trading back into the mid-late 1st for him too...

    First Providence College player going pro since Ryan Gomes....we little Rhody folks get excited for this stuff....
     
  7. Stitches

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    Irving and Kanter please.
     
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  8. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    If you guys comes out of this with Irving, Kanter, and Brooks....that is such a solid draft...and honestly Pete not that far out of the realm of possibility either...
     
  9. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    The NBA has 15 spots. 12 active on gameday.
     
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  10. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Although......


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/news/story?id=6696680
     
  11. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I like what I've read about Valanciunas, I'd just prefer someone who can play next season. So long as they don't take Vesely.
     
  12. Section126

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    If Bucher says you are taking Valanciunas, then Kanter is a lock.

    The last time Bucher was right about something was when he signed his last contract with ESPN and remarked "I actually get paid for this?"

    the most consistently wrong "insider" in ALL sports.
     
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  13. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    First of many I think......

    http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/83992112156254208
     
  14. Stitches

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    That'd be great. I hope they can use the TPE (or just cash) to get another 1st round pick too. Wing helps is needed badly.
     
  15. Stitches

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    [video=youtube;F9myotJoMaU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9myotJoMaU[/video]

    The seventh ring of hell...or When Jet fans take to their other teams in the off-season.
     
  17. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  18. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Bobcats are the "local" team and S Jax was a good story, but MJ is sort of cleaning house, Wallace, Jackson etc.

    Gerald Henderson of all players got Larry Brown fired, Brown wanted him in the NBDL and the FO disagreed, Brown was very old school.
     
  19. padre31

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    Erving went #1 overall..no surprise...
     
  20. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    The Kings should be....interesting next season....
     
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  21. finyank13

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    ahhhhh good luck Knicks thats why you suck....You had Brooks, and Selby on the board and you picked somebody that will be there in round 2.....

    Please dont let Brooks go to Charlotte.....ugh...
     
  22. Vengeful Odin

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    Whichever team drafts Selby is going to be horribly disappointed.
     
  23. Stitches

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    He wouldn't have lasted to the 2nd IMO.
     
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  24. finyank13

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    Amazing......
     
  25. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Norris Cole to Miami. Just hand us the damn trophy already.

    I mean, how many current NBA players have a flat top?
     
  26. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    I had said for the last two days that Norris Cole would be a great pick for Miami. Now it's looking like we are sending #31 and a future 2nd round pick to MIN for him. I think it's a good move. He's actually one of the better pure PG prospects in this draft. With Chalmers & Bibby free agents, I think this pick makes a lot of sense.
     
  27. Boik14

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    Shumpert has been rising up draft boards and would not have made it to round 2. He had the 3rd highest recorded vertical and has excellent athleticism. Most sites I have seen had him in the 17-25 range and rising. Probably more of a 2 in the NBA but can handle and defend. Chris Singleton was there but Shumpert is the more explosive athlete and plays a position that isnt manned by a player who will play 40 minutes a night like Singleton (SF/PF). Knicks have no 2nd (unless they buy one) so selecting Shumpert there is what they had to do if they had to have their guy.

    Personally he was 3rd on the players I wanted...was hoping for someone with size like a Vucevic or a true 2 like Marshon Brooks. Also loved Selby (Melo wanted him since he grew up in Baltimore and knew him).
     
  28. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Your team drafted him..then basically let him go to NJ. Dumb move even though he cant play a lick of defense.
     
  29. alen1

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    Bosna!!!
     
  30. Boik14

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    Knicks bought New Orleans pick at 41/Justin Harrellson C/6'10"-275....
     
  31. finyank13

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    Whoever said I liked Boston?? Those words have never been uttered out of my mouth.....thats blasphemy!!!!
     

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