10-15 Players Tested Positive For Steroids

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ALalen1New MemberOP
Oct 24, 2008, 02:09 PM

10-15 Players Tested Positive For Banned Substance

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen is reporting that the rash of positive tests under the NFL policy on steroids and related substances may be even more widespread than initially reported.

According to Mortensen’s report, which aired on SportsCenter, the number of players who tested positive is actually “more than 10 and may exceed 15.” Mortensen also confirmed that Saints running back Deuce McAllister and defensive end Will Smith were among those who tested positive.

ProFootballTalk.com - Rumor Mill

Josina Anderson of FOX 31 in Denver reports that there has been a “rash” of positive tests under the policy regarding anabolic steroids and related substances.

Citing a “highly-placed NFL source,” Anderson reports that there have been as few as six and as many as ten positive results, resulting from players taking water pills in an effort to lose weight.

Per the report, three or four play for the Saints, including running back Deuce McAllister and defensive end Will Smith.

ProFootballTalk.com - REPORT: “RASH” OF POSITIVE DRUG TESTS ENSNARES SAINTS

TheAnswer385TheAnswer385Forum Veteran
Oct 24, 2008, 02:23 PM

this is where we hold our breath

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Oct 24, 2008, 02:27 PM

What has changed in the testing??? Why suddenly are they catching guys in a hightened time???

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

Skeet84Skeet84New Member
Oct 24, 2008, 03:19 PM

Wonder when we will findout the names

ALalen1New Member
Oct 24, 2008, 03:38 PM

According to a rumor posted by FinNasty in the Club Level, Jason Ferguson is a rumored name. Remember, its a rumor.

GISHGISHForum Veteran
Oct 24, 2008, 04:00 PM

I hope this doesnt hurt any of my fantasy teams!!! Please dont let it be Andre Johnson!!!!

Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Oct 24, 2008, 04:06 PM

"alen1 wrote:

According to a rumor posted by FinNasty in the Club Level, Jason Ferguson is a rumored name. Remember, its a rumor.

A rumor started by some random guy who has a friend that is part of a message board. The list in all likelihood is complete BS.

ALalen1New Member
Oct 24, 2008, 04:06 PM

"Brown42000 wrote:

A rumor started by some random guy who has a friend that is part of a message board. The list in all likelihood is complete BS.

Yeah, just saw that link as well. Still want to see what happens though. It could be true.

GISHGISHForum Veteran
Oct 24, 2008, 07:22 PM

wes welker, crossing fingers.

steveincoloradosteveincoloradoNew Member
Oct 24, 2008, 08:29 PM

Think about this for a minute. The report came out here in Denver. Just a thought here, but the Broncos were interested in trading for Ricky Williams last season, then he failed a drug test. Travis Henry got cut from the Broncos not too long ago and then he failed a test. Wonder if the Broncos have some inside scoop on this stuff?? Just throwing it out there.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangLuxury Box
Oct 24, 2008, 08:43 PM

"gi§h® wrote:

I hope this doesnt hurt any of my fantasy teams!!! Please dont let it be Andre Johnson!!!!

A little disappointed in this Gish.

You are worried about Andre Johnson. Shouldnt you be more worried about anybody on the Dolphins? I guess that's why I really dont get the entire Fantasy thing. Not even in Madden...just me I guess

So, IF these guys are all positive, do they miss time? That would be a HUGE blow to the Saints. We have already seen how un-effective they tend to be with Duece..and Bush has a bum knee now also.

EDIT: Of course I meant WITHOUT Duece.

ALalen1New Member
Oct 24, 2008, 08:45 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

So, IF these guys are all positive, do they miss time? That would be a HUGE blow to the Saints. We have already seen how un-effective they tend to be with Duece..and Bush has a bum knee now also.

All players who failed any type of test given by the league are subject to 4 game suspensions. As of right now, the rumored list includes Jason Ferguson, Warrick Dunn and another ten or so guys.

daphinsdaphinsForum Veteran
Oct 24, 2008, 09:58 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

A little disappointed in this Gish.

You are worried about Andre Johnson. Shouldnt you be more worried about anybody on the Dolphins? I guess that's why I really dont get the entire Fantasy thing. Not even in Madden...just me I guess

So, IF these guys are all positive, do they miss time? That would be a HUGE blow to the Saints. We have already seen how un-effective they tend to be with Duece..and Bush has a bum knee now also.

EDIT: Of course I meant WITHOUT Duece.

:hammertime: I'm a bush and Pierre owner in my family league :hammertime:

On that note Eddie Moore SHOULD be on that list...........:shifty:

#NFLFU

ALalen1New Member
Oct 24, 2008, 11:37 PM

Add Charles Grant to the Saints list. He, Deuce McAllister and Will Smith are all facing 4 game suspensions.

wpgfishfanwpgfishfanNew Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:18 AM

"alen1 wrote:

All players who failed any type of test given by the league are subject to 4 game suspensions. As of right now, the rumored list includes Jason Ferguson, Warrick Dunn and another ten or so guys.

you dont get 4 games for testing positive.

that is strike 2 or 3

strike 1 warning i think
strike 2 is a 4 game fine
strike 3 is 4 game suspension
strike 4 is a year off
strike 5 is bye bye forever

Well after 15 years Bettman lets hockey come back to Winnipeg. Thanks for wasting 15 years

wpgfishfanwpgfishfanNew Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:19 AM

"steveincolorado wrote:

Think about this for a minute. The report came out here in Denver. Just a thought here, but the Broncos were interested in trading for Ricky Williams last season, then he failed a drug test. Travis Henry got cut from the Broncos not too long ago and then he failed a test. Wonder if the Broncos have some inside scoop on this stuff?? Just throwing it out there.

the leak has to be from denver somewhere

Well after 15 years Bettman lets hockey come back to Winnipeg. Thanks for wasting 15 years

wpgfishfanwpgfishfanNew Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:26 AM

"wpgfishfan wrote:

you dont get 4 games for testing positive.

that is strike 2 or 3

strike 1 warning i think
strike 2 is a 4 game fine
strike 3 is 4 game suspension
strike 4 is a year off
strike 5 is bye bye forever

my mistake

The NFL policy for substance abuse says for a first violation, the NFL could fine and suspend a player without pay for up to four regular games or six games for a second violation.

Well after 15 years Bettman lets hockey come back to Winnipeg. Thanks for wasting 15 years

daphinsdaphinsForum Veteran
Oct 25, 2008, 11:52 AM

"wpgfishfan wrote:

my mistake

The NFL policy for substance abuse says for a first violation, the NFL could fine and suspend a player without pay for up to four regular games or six games for a second violation.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they get a suspension right away. Peppers tested positive for a banned substance his rookie season and got suspended for the last 4 games even though it was a minor infraction mislabled in a supplement he was taking.

#NFLFU

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:14 PM

are subject to 4 game suspensions.

You do face an immediate (max, I think) of 4 game suspension. or maybe the four games is automatic. what I do know is that it is subject to appeals.

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

ALalen1New Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:40 PM

"anlgp wrote:

You do face an immediate (max, I think) of 4 game suspension. or maybe the four games is automatic. what I do know is that it is subject to appeals.

Yeah but I'd be surprised if they won the appeal. It is a banned substance and even if it is on the list, they took it.

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:42 PM

i agree.

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:43 PM

Any news on how they were caught? What has changed to suddenly detect and catch them?

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

ALalen1New Member
Oct 25, 2008, 12:46 PM

"BigDogsHunt wrote:

Any news on how they were caught? What has changed to suddenly detect and catch them?

Mortensen just reported that Defensive End's Will Smith, Charles Grant, Running Back Deuce McAllister and Texans Long Snapper all tested positive for a weight loss pill I believe and they will likely be receiving four game suspensions. On how they were caught, I have no clue. I'm guessing that some players use it as a masking agent and it may have not worked. I'm not sure, just a guess there lol.

MIm inoNew Member
Oct 25, 2008, 05:53 PM

as far as how they were all of a sudden "caught" maybe the league decided to started going deeper with their analysis of test such as how they started in my area in the industrial plants here..just for example if u were tested for marijuana they used to just look for marijuana but a few years ago they decided to do deeper analysis,people were using "golden seal" to mask their test and the deeper analysis would test for the golden seal as well and if that was found then it was a automatic fail of the screen as one would not have that in their system unless they were trying to hide the marijuana(unless u had prove from a doctor that indeed u needed the golden seal for something.

not saying this is what the nfl did but it is one possibility.

GISHGISHForum Veteran
Oct 25, 2008, 06:07 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

A little disappointed in this Gish.

You are worried about Andre Johnson. Shouldnt you be more worried about anybody on the Dolphins? I guess that's why I really dont get the entire Fantasy thing. Not even in Madden...just me I guess

So, IF these guys are all positive, do they miss time? That would be a HUGE blow to the Saints. We have already seen how un-effective they tend to be with Duece..and Bush has a bum knee now also.

EDIT: Of course I meant WITHOUT Duece.

im not worried about it being a dolphin. if one of our own gets busted, we're better off without him. the league would be doing us a favor.

EDIT: Even Joey.