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As trade Fodder, maybe. - LOL

Spk Engrish!!! - LOL

This clearly is not just what the team is doing to improve our "Cap" position; but it is indicative of what positions are going to be prioritized...

Why is there an "m" in masses? - LOL

I hope your wrong, but this year will tell a tale. I wonder who will be listening?

Even I can see the problem there!

there is no reason why it can't. We shall see.

If is a surprisingly big word, isn't it? - LOL

QB's don't engineer comebacks. Coaches do. - LOL

Aren't we expecting a better running game with our RB group this year?

I should have stated it was Tanny on the field that brought Henrys numbers up significantly. Once the Titans started playing well under Tannehill...

The Titans running game came to life with Tanny at QB. You don't think he wouldn't do as well or better with our current RB room? I do.

Tanny started to bloom under Gase, until he got injured. Then he remained injured for most of his next two years. I think that Tannenbaum guy who...

What about years one & two, you know, before they lost a lot of good players in FA. - LOL

Ask the Titans. - LOL

I call those folks "Lemmings". - LOL

I have no problem waiting until next year to give Tua a new contract. I imagine Tua will more than make up for what he would have made this year...

YES!!!!!

Hey, McDaniel, this guy thinks Tua should be making the plays. Is that true if you send in a bad play? - LOL

LOL

Try Wonderful, its farther back in the dictionary, and a more accurate descriptor. - LOL

Good for a laugh, and that's about all. - LOL

Wouldn't that be a "kick"? You throw with your arm, not your foot. - LOL

I think this is a VERY unlikely scenario.

Foster? - LOL

The fun was just about to begin.

I understand that too much Alcohol does that - LOL

This Bears offense has given some good teams trouble.

RAY WAS RIGHT!!!

And I find it disturbing that people here think they can see he was concussed, What I saw was a person with a problem with something like a...

If they were going to put him on injured reserve, he'd be there by now.

Almost a positive post. Eliminate the spoilers and enjoy the full thrill of victory. We have to many "Lemmings" and this year will be a lot different.

This is a case where we can "have our cake and eat it" at the same time, so why complain? - LOL

Not an unrealistic wish. I feel the first few practice games will be used by the coaching staff to primarily "sort-out" who we keep, who we let...

Are those athletes or "Spring Breakers"? - LOL

Good joke - LOL

Are you referring those massage "technicians" who have "come to grips" with Watson - legally speaking. -LOL

Me too at 13-4. Make the playoffs Might get to the Superbowl No predictions past that point because my head will be spinning - LOL

Could they replace him with "Rosen" - LOL

DeShaun Watson Situation Not Unfolding Well But it is collapsing excellently - LOL

Plan ahead - LOL

Is Watson related to Bill Clinton? Seriously!

You might want to re-word "And the beat goes on" - LOL Isn't that part of what got him in trouble in the first place?

Or lose their franchise! I suppose that would take a vote of the "Board of Directors" of the NFL i.e. the owners.

So you are saying to treat his non-playing time as time served?

If he's lucky, he won't play or even be on the team. Letting him go to another team is both a favor and an apology - LOL When is Cleveland going...

He must be a "fan" - Likely to be masquerading as a "Lemming" - LOL

He's allowed to be stupid in public - there is no law against that (yet) - LOL

A "perfect" season for the Browns - LOL I actually feel bad for those poor self-destructive fools. They are so screwed up that I bet they could...

I agree that Mayfield is showing some "class" in the absurd situation he finds himself in. With our luck he'll end up as a backup to for the Jets...

Agenda? My position is that no matter what the future MAY have been for him, it was his choice to stay and face it or to leave. He chose to...

If that was said by Lynch, then the reality is "K" opted out. Nothing changes that. Nothing. "K" has to live with the actions he took - period!...

He got his wish, he's his own victim. What a moron!

My post was a general statement aimed at the general content of many posts across many threads, not aimed at any particular thread.

I've read a lot of fans posts here. I can state, with only a few exceptions, most posts are driven by emotion, not thinking. I find it difficult...

The best thing about this draft is that is over! - LOL

HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!

I like the lack of ambivalence in your posts - LOL

Cause or effect? It does make a difference - LOL

You know Flo - LOL

What a pair of egotistical boneheads! This came to a head when they were criticizing a blogger who only had 1000 or so followers for starting a...

All of the above including which Free Agency players we acquire.

Now I understand your Avatar title.

What happened to #69 - LOL

Or more likely sell his story. He doesn't seem to be much of a businessman and for now, I find him lacking in integrity. There was nothing...

I bet you would - LOL

Nice smile there Flo - I would categorize it as "how about my two front white teeth" - those were the ones the Dolphins kicked me in - LOL

Now, w/o an effective offensive line?

We do have an image. It is confusion. Don't laugh! It made for one hell of a good defense last year - LOL

I liked their "exposure" this weekend - LOL

One out of four - are you trying to get a job with ESPN - LOL

I thought that was no longer in question. - LOL The question is, like it or not, who will he agree to as our new HC.

Nobody likes those "short" guys - LOL

Your categories are: LAME "Carolina with Mccaffrey out" - LOL This was caused by the Dolphins consistently tough play, not a gift from the God of...

I disagree.

What I saw yesterday was an impressive Team Win, supported by the offense, the defense and special teams; and the 33 points scored contradicts...

Let's wait until the end of the season before we start burying this team. I'm curious to see how far this winning streak will extend, aren't you?...

YES!

Grier's death has been greatly exaggerated! - LOL

Apparently I've "tripped over my d**k" - LOL You mean ties aren't allowed?

W=Atlanta - New England at Atlanta W=Buffalo - Indianapolis at Buffalo W=Chicago - Baltimore at Chicago (kick them while they're down) - LOL...

"Explodes", as in a lot of completed passes, or: "Explodes", as in a general blast of hot air with no focused result, except for a losing score?

We see things very differently. I see everything as open to optimism. If we win - great. Any objective analysis is welcome. If we lose, lets see...

There is no such thing as an ugly win! I can't say the same thing about losses. - LOL

You've watched this season unfold and can ask "what's the worst that could happen?" - LOL

How strong do you feel about our trading abilities? - LOL

A matched set - LOL You guys break me up - LOL

Bend Over! - LOL

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. - LOL

I suspect the cases against him are "manufactured". I still don't want him on our team. If he doesn't have enough sense to protect himself by...

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think - LOL

Clear Skies that don't fall - LOL

Ignore this post and watch the team the rest of this season to see what really develops. - LOL Well, you did ask for it - LOL

My original QUOTE was something like 21-10 without naming a winner. Too easy, so here is my 2nd list of “results”. If I get any of them right I’ll...

Outside of that, what's stopping us - or shouldn't I ask?

Who would have known that "HAL" was a "Lemming" - LOL

Score more then the other team. That always works for me - LOL

This is the kind of thing the Dolphins should to be able to do "on command" in order to be successful in the NFL. I feel they are up to it. We...

What did you catch? - LOL

The numbers indicate "thin and wide" - LOL

Wow. I remember a lot of motels with a lot of space between them. One morning I asked the receptionist if there was a delicatessen nearby where I...

Are you close to the Rip Van Wrinkle motel? I spent a few "Liberty Weekends" there while I was going thru ITR at Camp Pendleton (Nov-Dec 1965).

I'm a little late too, but still smiling. High Point, NC

Why in a sane and well understood world, would anyone want to be wrong?

It's a miracle - LOL

It's too late to worry about draft position after a selection has been made; and remember, success in the NFL is not guaranteed at any position....

Nagy is between a rock and a hard place as far as his QB situation is concerned. Tribisky looked good today, so it could have been any combination...

I don't have a problem with 3 different WR's going over 1,000 yard each this year. - LOL

Actually, they the team have all the leverage. This shows in how team friendly this contract is. It may end up being the boiler plate contract...

You could say my math leaves something to be desired - LOL

Let me offer a short poem to clarify my view on religion. Roses are redish. Violets are bluish. If it wasn't for Jesus, "You all" would be...

Are you saying there are too many Dolphins threads?

What about all his workout videos - LOL

Congratulations.

A team cannot control the overall performance of other divisions as much as it can control their performance in their division. I would have...

Going 11-6 More winning will (almost) always get you there. Less winning may get you there, but it will happen much less often. Any 3rd grader...

What I want to see from the Dolphins to consider this season a success is ending the year with a reasonable conviction, based on the years play,...

Couldn't have said it better myself!

Thanks for the detailed information. I still wish they could delay it so he would collect nothing, but "beggars can't be choosers" - LOL

I think he would be required to pass a physical. How do you think he would do on that physical? Pass, fail, or be required spend more time to...

Because he is not worth it in the eyes of the FO. Any questions, and please note that complaints, disagreements and whines aren't questions; only...

Isn't there a saying in the legal profession that a lawyer who acts as his own lawyer in court has a fool for a client? - LOL

With your insight into the English language I recommend you have a good lawyer on hand - your going to need one, probably sooner than later, or...

We can also just ignore him if he doesn't show up. He can't contract to another club until his contract here has been completed or he gets...

That's pretty much the situation. If the Dolphins don't want to re-negotiate, "X" can either show up and play and make a lot of money or he can...

If I am, then that makes two of us - LOL

Meaningless question. [There were two questions!] There is nothing wrong with X trying to get a new contract. [Yes there is!] What happens is up...

That sounds good. What would you have done if there had been no re-negotiation? Would you have stayed or moved on?

Did you get a better deal or just took whatever was offered?

Makes sense mathematically.

I think this is probably the closest to the truth. This is his last best chance of getting more money!

I guess this qualifies as an "unusual situation". - LOL

Not after we trade him - LOL

I believe you,

I don't think he gets anyone else's point!

A well thought out post in an off-season of meaningless posts. A real breath of fresh air.

Part 2 provides examples from some current contracts that highlight the differences between how some of the guarantees are made and why they were...

And they get paid more then most will ever make again in their lives for a few years of playing sports. I understand they are eligible for the...

The Art of NFL Contracts Part 1: The Basics There are at least a part 2 and a part 3 Part 2 is "The Examples"

There is a Sports Illustrated 2-part article on NFL contracts that you might find enlightening. Let me know what you think about it.

Because the contracts give each party specific rights and obligations. Those rights and obligations are not always the same. Either party has the...

Both sides have to honor the contract. I would like to see one of those contracts to see what they say as opposed to presumption. What I do know...

Are you referring to Chinese medications or Covis 19

That's the attitude that lets folks in Russia and China become "billionaires". Just ask Putin - LOL

Of Course I Will - LOL

In your case it's out of politeness. - LOL

True, that is availability. Once a long time ago in an other place there was a man who was hurt in a motorcycle accident. This limited his...

I believe you. Can you guess why I believe you? - LOL

Are you really that "unaware", or are you just baiting me with this nonsense?

The same contract always has different requirements for each party to live up to. That's why they put it "in writing". Did you fall out of bed and...

RONG!

So can the player!

Smooth Segway, also funny - LOL

In America, you can ignore a contract at your own legal Peril. I've seen enough contractual failures when I was a councilman in a small city in...

Read the damn contract before you sign it. No one can make you play if you don't want to. If you want to play, then you are stuck with the...

Which consensus is that? The overstatement kind from fans on a board or the kind from a front office that went 10-6 last year with a "green" team...

"Fighter of the night" stay out of the light! It appears to have fried your brain! - LOL

At least you acknowledge that you are offensive minded rather than one who recognizes that offenses and defenses compliment each other on the field.

We are what our record says we are, a 10 Win team - LOL

I thought that was one of the reasons we addressed the Offensive Line this draft. Probably a good idea to see how our running game performs this...

This is beginning to look like a pile of "Tweet" - LOL

I predict the following: 1) The Draft will begin on time! 2) I'm going to enjoy every second of this draft because I have no particular...

This is part of what happens when teams begin to have success. Get used to it - LOL

My thoughts EXACTLY. We may be ready to start with who we have in place on the OL, but if we intend to grow and improve as a team, we need to...

An exceptionally informative post. Thank You.

I feel they are both worth the same amount of money. The question really is, what are the Dolphins prepared to pay for a back up QB. We will know...

My preferences, considering the stage they are now at in their careers, #1 Fitzpatrick (I feel he has earned it after his last 2 years with...

I can't agree without knowing how much was play call vs. how much was Tua. There is always "the elephant in the room" of the effect of the play...

It seems to me, from what you've said, that you felt we could have filled all our holes with last years draft. I don't believe we could have and...

When I went into Marine Corps boot camp I weighed 149 pounds and I was solid muscle except for my chest. When I came out I weighed 178 pounds and...

I see your point, I just don't agree. I want to continue to win, even if it's at a lower percentage. We can always draft a QB in any draft. No...

Our teams offensive future is like any other NFL teams. It is tied to the performance of the offensive line. Without a pretty good OL you won't...

Lettuce see, choose #1 or #2. I presume we are already in the bath room?

Clearly, he's got more important 'FISH to fry - LOL

1) "Players and coaches do that." Absolutely; of course they do that through the use of players. 2) "No, we have a team that had one good...

I appreciate that you recognize it takes 2 to 3 years to see how a draftee turns out. My observation is that only about 1/2 of 1st round picks...

Too much "Lemming" juice and too many "Lemming" droppings. A bunch of whinners and not too many winners in these posts! WE HAVE A TEAM THAT IS...

The sad thing is that I believe you - LOL

I'm confused by your post. At first you disagree with me and state your reasons. Emotionally based reasons, but reasons non the less. Then you...

Actually it won't. All GM's have hits and misses. The ones with the most misses and lack of team success are eventually jettisoned. The ones with...

YES!

Sorry to break it to you but offenses play defenses, not other offenses. This means QB's only compete when they are on the same offense.

While I agree with the performance goals you put forward for Tua, I disagree about waiting 2 or 3 years for a new QB. I feel every team should...

As I recall, Derrick Henry was not spectacular until Tannehill took over at QB. That must mean something!

When you pointed out that "they're both incredible options though and I'm very thankful the front office got us in this position in the first...

A great post. A rational situational assessment on a forum where there is, way too often, a hurricane of hyperbole.

I voted to trade down. If Flores wants a QB in the first round, that's fine with me. I'm not so presumptive that I feel I need to tell him who...

Slow news day - LOL

I don't entirely disagree. You touched on the important point. For evidence to have meaning it would have to come from a source independent of...

Players can grow and change. Tannehill played well for Gase the 1st year after he learned the system. Tannehill was out for over 2 years after...

Actually you can. Playing on a different team changes a lot of the dynamics an offense can offer based on the differences in the current and the...

QB's drafted after the 1st round may have a chip on their shoulder and work out well. They are unlikely to be Divas early in their careers like RG...

If he made the existing injury worse, then he also injured him. Grow up!!!

A new way to be positive. I love it.

rong - LOL

I'd rather have boring wins in place of exciting loses. Your position is weak.

Isn't Fritz a free agent next year?

The Chinese have a saying; "The longest journey starts with the first step". I always thought that was obvious. The same thing goes for pass...

I wish they could give us a time range as to when he could return.

I totally disagree with trading off our high draft picks. We still have holes to fill and improvements to make at many positions.

I'm still at 10-6. Once we make the playoffs its a brand new ball game for getting into the super bowl. I feel the trajectory of our final 3 or...

I know a lot of posters live and die by the draft, but this season, do you think it might be a good idea to see what the end of the season looks...

Great point. It would address the reason so many of these immature players complain on social media; especially when their play is between...

I am a big homer and I felt when the season started we would go 10-6 this year. After watching the last 2 games I feel I may have been a bit low...

Now some "genius" will try to minimize that. I always liked Tannehill and am delighted things have worked out well for him with the Titans.

When a player tells the coach he should be played more, its time for the team to get rid of that player.

Looks like the % is leveling off a little below 45%. There seems to be an upward trend the last 3 or 4 years. This year will show if that trend is...

Sounds good, but in reality, the time pressure on NFL QB's would require an adequate throw all the time with excellent touch throws some of the...

I feel COVID-19 favors teams with an established OL, DL and stability in their coaching staff.

No matter how bad you think he was as a QB, the cowboys disagree and in this case, they are right.

I believe that our offense and defense will both improve dramatically in every facet by the end of the season. By the 8th game we will be the...

Whoops, I thought we were talking about Minkah.

Not if he choose not to play!

Do you have to go to the hospital to get lung damage, heart damage and blood clotting issues? Actually lung damage and heart damage is commonly...

It takes two (and in football it takes eleven) to tango! LOL

Next year he may actually join the elite. That would give this board a big thread to respond to, if the current one is any indication!!

I see the common factor! Teams with bad offensive lines are the ones hiring HC's. It's the only answer that is consistent across the board.

Can we rename this thread the "Tannehill Express"? I hope Ryan has an opportunity to see this thread, just to let him know he made such an impact...

Ask Tannehill why he made that statement, then you will know all you need to know about Adam Gase.

Winners write the histories, and right now Tannehill is the winner in 2019. His play last year speaks for itself and shows what a great QB, RB...

Terminology often too narrowly describes all the functions a player needs to perform on the field in the NFL. An end, any kind of end, is normally...

With our luck we'll trade Rosen to the Titans to be their backup QB and he will pull a "Tannehill" once he gets on the field.

Is that possible? If they don't give up the points, where will we get them from?

Great idea. What's your plan to get us there?

Both; in each case it was the team that made the difference. One allowed him to demonstrate his worth, the other held him back. The biggest...

Not as improbable a situation as many posters might think. If it happens that Rosen is called on to play and does well, its a credit to the FO....

I predict this thread will end sometime after the draft. How's that for a bold prediction!

my picks are: Intrigue, followed by: Dismay, Ohmygod, Noway, Ouch, Toobad, Krap, Notagain, Obsessional, Whiz-bang What difference does it make....

How many here have considered that Tannehill was learning to be a better QB after Gase arrived, then was out for 2 1/2 years with injuries. Could...

The only change I would make to your list is the position of the center. I would place him right after the QB, because he is responsible for...

Having good coaching and accepting good coaching are not the same thing. Ask RG III.

It wasn't the FO complaining about Tua, it was Tua saying he didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling from the FO.

I wonder if, for 2020, you folks could establish a minimal set of QB statistics that meet all the conditions of Statistical Science. Include the...

Thanks for the information. I find the difference between no pressure grade to the pressure grade to be the biggest "eye opener" for me. I was...

I think we also need to consider that this is a new organization in terms of coaches and players. Grier is the carry over and so far it looks like...

It's interesting to note this is one of the more active threads on the forum, even though it concerns a man who wasn't on our team last year and...

If you consider the differences between draft spots are linear (each change is the same amount lower as you go thru each position in the draft),...

While I agree in general, this draft is going to be somewhat unique in that many players won't be getting any pre-draft physicals any time soon. I...

You can't squander talent when the player is not playing i.e. missing over two years of play due to injury.

I wonder how useful a good attitude is in a dysfunctional locker room? It may help a player keep their sanity, but there is no guarantee it will...

Actually, I think Tannehill can do better other places. He made a success out of a mess last year. I hope he is rewarded monetarily or by moving...

Fungible, now there is a word I don't see much. I hoped it meant something to do with fun, but it just means interchangeable. Still, it added a...

I'm fairly open to who ever the coaches want, with the expectation it will be a good player in a position of need that would be better taken later...

I agree. I should have pointed out that with my proposal for trading back and converting our #5 pick into three lower draft picks, I had already...

I was not assuming we would take a QB with any of the 3 new picks. I was thinking we would be able to get more good linemen with the increased...

I feel Payton Manning proved that for all time when he came back from his neck injury, couldn't throw long or real hard and still could score a...

Would you like it if we traded back from pick 5 for and ended up with 3 picks instead of just 1?

Are you saying you would love it if we didn't "hurt"?

Wasn't there two major coaching changes in 2018 and another new coach at the start of 2020? If that is the case, and I think it is, then the...

This graph clearly demonstrates how the game point differential relates to the rushing game. The big change in the 4th quarter is consistent with...

I think this flat earth thing has got into some of the "flat earther's" heads. I wonder if this means they are flat heads?

Another excellent response. I doubt the poster will consider it or even read about the experiment. Interestingly, the experiment is not too...

Equating ESPN to accuracy doesn't represent research to me. Typically a limited reporting of facts embedded with a lot of hear-say and opinion....

You just had to ask!

I'm beginning to agree with you that using any of your information isn't wise. Still, sometimes even a blind pig finds a nut and I would...

It's OK cbrad. I wouldn't be surprised if that guy is a member of the Flat Earth Society.

Are you sure? he seemed so good at it.

Thanks for that introduction to statistics. I hope as the off-season doldrums roll on, some of our posters will be able to review this...

I'm beginning to wonder when players like him and Tannehill move on and do better; is it because of the new team, or did the transfer cause them...

I agree. He was doing everything well; hard running and getting few yards after the initial hits, receiving and being hard to bring down, and...

I understand your doubt. If I had not seen them, I wouldn't have believed it either. I tried to see if I could relocate that link but I couldn't....

I don't have that link, but I wish I did. I thought that information would have been seen by a lot of interested people, such as myself, so I...

Yes. He played 3 games before he was injured and was off and on again for about a year. The shoulder injury wasn't fully identified at first and...

I looked this up and this is what I found: [ATTACH] Broken Bones Grow Back Stronger… Sort Of. ... This calcium collection is really strong, so,...

I trust your speaking as a fan, not one of the Dolphins coaches.

It was not the rim of the socket that I saw broken in the x-rays. This x-ray was shown on the internet but its possible you didn't see it. It was...

Keep in mind that when a bone heals, the healed part is often thicker, i.e. stronger, then the surrounding bone. It seems to me that if a force...

Sorry for the confusion. I realize that the x-axis is passer ratings. I should have been more explicit. I feel that since a bad to average QB...

I suspect the slope is negative because I feel that the more a QB throws, the more likely the team is behind and with less and less time available...

I agree that what you've stated in your post is correct. I don't think it includes a more direct indicator of performance that I see. I feel that...

This is the best post in this thread, but there really isn't that much competition.

And the vocabulary word for today is .... anosognosia, condition of a deficit of self-awareness. What a precise word!

I went with #7 "I'm very positive but recognize things can always be better" In a way that seems pretty neutral because I always feel that way. A...

Are you saying a lot of posters determine their judgments based on a bowl? Isn't that similar to reading tea leaves, but using turds?

Maybe he does. Possibly as a prediction analysis for election results for CNN.

Which side of that border is he on?

Actually, that is exactly what he did!

Is this the same team they use to predict the outcome of elections?

If BB was that worried about RT, then maybe RT is better then many here give him credit for.

Management in coaching is more Command and Control vs. a "run by committee" system. In the end, all run by committee systems usually end being...

I like this perspective. Your presumptions are reasonable and the age of our OC does indicate a shorter term tenure. The conclusions are...

They would probably prefer Dolphins fans!

In the end, isn't this what football is all about, competition.

This kind of result would represent a successful season for the Dolphins, where we started with a hash of new players and leftovers and finished...

That's a very clear explanation supporting your point. I think it is a valid position to take.

Cbrad, I admire your tolerance and willingness to give direct answers to those who want to bias the results to match their opinions. For the...

Fair enough. My interpretation is a bit more literal, but in the end I see it as team against team, offense against defense and direct...

It means whoever said it doesn't understand that offenses play against defenses, not other offenses.

That's easy --- WINS!

This makes too much sense.

I thought that responsibility was Tannenbaum's.

I can accept that.

I don't agree with you about Gase, therefore your stating "...it’s unanimous Adam Gase is just a garbage coach" is wrong. How wrong is still to...

That's the kind of focus we need. It's not where we draft, its whom we draft at each pick. It would be nice to see a list set up and maintained...

I know that Tannehills performance with the Titans has been the highlight of this season for me, followed by the Dolphins showing some spunk and...

I think you've got it!

Didn't he play, sort of, for the Dolphins early in his career?

A great sentiment. I hope it somehow finds its way to Ryan.

I'm easily impressed. It makes the watching football more fun then just whining about everything.

You can only compare them to the competition they played with. Too many variables over time to make any "leveling" of the statistics meaningful....

If a picture is worth a thousand words, this post is worth 6077 words!

It seems like your using a lot of words but not getting anywhere.

I presume that qualifies for elite. I would have just said he is playing excellent football. Saying anything else is unnecessary.

Am I the only one that finds it amusing that so many posters who are glad Tannehill is no longer a Dolphin are upset by his doing well with the...

At that point their opinions no longer carry any weight!

No, but its easy to see which kind of guy you were in class.

There is a significant difference between "splitting hairs" and knowing what words mean. They have already been defined and without your help,...

Yes, he was elite while he played at an elite level. Let me use a non-football example to clarify my position using the root word "fast" in place...

Playing at an elite level ALWAYS makes you elite during that time. Consistently playing at an elite level makes you one of the all time best....

I suspect you actually believe that. I'll take it into account as I read your spewing.

So many words with so little meaning. If someone plays at an elite level, then they were elite players during that period of time. If you are...

Actually it does answer one of those questions. If he played at an elite level, then during that period of time he was elite!

It made him elite while he played at an elite level. Go back and review the meaning of the word elite. It is not defined as an all time great,...

An elite is a select group. The sportswriters and media have said Tannehill has played in the top 5 QB stats ratings since he started with the...

He seems to be playing like an elite QB. Hes rated as one of the top 5 by many networks and sports outlets during the time he has played this...

That's sort of what I said; you were just a tad more succinct!

I suspect it is fundamentally due to two things: 1) Physicality - He seems to be healthier and have gotten stronger, or at least more physical...

No, I'm slow about a lot of things, but I'M AHEAD OF YOU!

When I moved to North Carolina I saw an interesting bumper sticker on the car in front of me. It said "I may be slow, but I'm ahead of you". I...

I Agree. It sounds like someone doesn't understand the difference between cause and effect, but think they do understand it. It's like listening...

Where's the face palm icon when I really need it!

It nice to see a rational post dealing with a QB's actual performance and what it means with regards to their current season.

It's not as if you have a choice, is it.

It's no more then I would ask for. A good team is usually well balanced. Adding 2 or 3 "hero's" to an unbalanced bad team usually makes them even...

Sounds like you actually agree with keyfin, but are trying hard not to acknowledge that you do.

I would add the possibility that the line is weak. No offensive line is any better then its weakest player.

My point was there is no specific plan for a QB, beyond what we have already done and who we have this season. What we have available right now...

I think you guys are all wet when it comes to the plan. You are all basing plans on who is to be selected or if you are unsure of who is to be...

Why do you hate the Dolphins this much?

So if the Dolphins take an action that will invite debate on this board it's a bad thing?

They will also complain if we pick high and don't find a successful QB!

I feel we should let the coach make the decision if and when to play Rosen. I suspect he will play in another 2 or 3 games. I wouldn't be...

As far as position assignments go, they are all just ends, in my opinion, with some degree of specialization which isn't as clear cut as many believe.

Actually, that is a good definition of "common sense"!

It most certainly shows it has been wrong in the recent past!

What about the TE's?

It's no secret that I always was and still am a fan of Tannehill. Once he was traded, my position didn't have a basis for consideration any more....

I thought Grier was the one with money to spend?

Based on the reasoning you just presented, it doesn't make any difference what draft position we use on a QB. Some "elite" QB's were taken at the...

Isn't a win-win the sign of a good trade?

Great response. I actually understood every word. If I can get it, you'd think the rest of the folks here could also get it. This should...

No! I reiterate, only TEAMS win Super Bowls. You can assign any success you want to any player, but football is a TEAM sport. In Baseball, you...

I'm afraid you missed my point. Teams win Superbowls, not QB's!

Hall of Fame players in any sport are subjective choices. There is not a one to one equivalency between who was the best at a position and who got...

Makes you want to consider the value in tanking for a QB. Of course with fans, their jobs are not on the line and they can blame everyone but...

There is a historical precedent for this nonsense. "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" People have been arguing about this kind of...

I believe the guy who coined the statement "there are lies, damn lies and statistics" was a politician. You know, like the folks in congress who...

I'll enjoy the Skins game discussions, reading the level headed, well thought out and clearly supported explanations that all the but hurt...

He doesn't have to be good enough to beat us; he has to be bad enough for us to win.

Do you think we can get Mr. Ross to pick up the tab?

That is true, and because of that I get a little sensitive about being as particular as possible to offset the speculative part of many posts. At...

"Right, but the company he's in there can be informative." Your basic assumption about "....the company he's in..." being informative is wrong;...

It appears the big bad belli has you snowed!

All that's true, but you can only have one draft a season, so next year we have 3 #1's!

Don't we have three #1 round picks? We could use any one of them for a QB if the GM thinks they can improve the teams performance and the chances...

I was glad to see Ken Anderson at 11. There is no question in my mind he belongs there. The fact he isn't in the hall of fame shows inconsistency...

There may be a way to make a profit from all these terrible teams. We could create the "Garbage Bowl". There are always a lot of fans so...

"a really good QB"? Don't you mean a really good front line?

I don't object to keeping him out next week, but not to "teach him a lesson". We should let other players show us if they can do better, since we...

I like the information you bring up to support your opinion as opposed to those say the results were bad so we are useless. That may probably be...

I feel the most important statistical information over the first 1/2 of the season is how a player, a positional group or game planning is...

"....the line looked a lot better in week 2 for whatever reason. It could be the difference in schemes between NE and Baltimore...or it could be...

Sometimes players need that dose of reality. This is a really under-rated fact!

Is this a case of 4 Patriots against the entire Dolphins team?

It was clear to me that the Dolphins would bring in Rosen early in the season, but not the first few games unless he had really outperformed Fitz...

" .... their views can be altered with the right approach". Don't kid yourself. The only approach that works for the players that complain and...

What are the historic percentages of getting a successful QB in the first round? I'm guessing its around 50%.

You may or may not be right. In either case we need to try and do something. I feel my recommendations are general enough to be used with some...

Get a grip on yourselves posters. With a new coaching staff you can expect it to take 4 to 6 games before a team gels. During that time we will...

Well, is it possible to play worse?

To put a positive spin on things: We are likely to play better then this for the rest of the year.

Do you do realize that that by saying the Browns have a 10000000x better chance then we do; you are implying that we do have a chance?

Dumbest post of the century!

It's clearly not about what he did last year, but what he can do this year under a new (different) coaching staff.

Of course you can think Rosen is your future QB. No one really knows yet if he is or isn't and this trade doesn't imply that in any way shape or...

What a bunch of lemming juice. If you are looking for a sport with a lack of peril, may I recommend dominos!

This is a very good deal for the Dolphins! We get rid of one player who we were going to unload anyway. Let's assume the 2nd round draft pick was...

For what you are suggesting to make sense to me; we would have to have a lot of improvement in a lot of positions in order to be justified in...

I wouldn't.

I agree. Thanks for the response. As little as I know of the real application and detail of statistics the less I know about "fuzzy Logic". Having...

I notice in your last paragraph that you pointed out about a certain type of anomalous result " That type of result generally happens only if the...

My point was that those QB's played better with Gase coaching then without him. Since Gase was with Manning for just one year and Manning had a...

I don't disagree, but to put more of a point on my concept of what a QB's capabilities are is not based on extremes like a strong arm vs. a weak...

I would point out that Manning's performance with Denver is intertwined with the performance of his OC, a guy named Gase. After Gase left,...

I'm beginning to believe that it's not what your QB is capable of, but how well the coaching staff uses what a QB is capable of. I do not agree...

Because those 13 games were catastrophic for the team and the player. There is a reason why Rosen went thru 3 coaches last year and was going to...

That would explain why she sounds like some of our posters.

I think you need a drink to steady what ever is left of your nerves.

I think this list is way off. The teams he has at the bottom are probably going to do much better then that. I feel the Jets have the highest...

I thought this was supposed to be the year of Flores?

There is a lot you say I agree with, but in the end its the players who do the playing. If they can't, or won't, then the only avenue out is...

It's nice to read a well thought out and presented position about "tanking".

YES! Maybe?

Fair enough!

RONG!

This thread represents a terrible point of view. We can't control the team, but we can have a positive fan attitude. By definition, a fan is "an...

Good information, but I don't know to what extent it will carry into this year. I see a potentially strong team with coaching as the biggest...