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The mechanics behind what they're attempting to do are mind-boggling. A first year GM and a first year head coach (from a coaching tree that has...
This will be my only comment this year. What we witnessed today was a damn embarrassment. This is the lowest I've ever felt as a fan and I...
Mediocre coaches that coached a mediocre QB in Miami. Go figure.
You never saw the video of that last year? It was one of the funniest press conferences I've ever watched and his "We just have to stay humble"...
But see that's cherry picking a minority example to defend a preconceived assumption. I don't think anyone is doubting whether it's "possible" if...
I think what I took umbrage with was the "experimenting" comment. It implies just throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks....
"Experimenting" doesn't inspire much confidence and not what this team should be doing. We wasted 7 years doing just that very thing with Tanny....
Personally, I don't know how anyone could even attempt a rebuttal/contradiction to this post. Should've just locked the thread after it.
I can't wait. The season hasn't even started. He already had the worst presser in the history of the NFL and now this GM drama. Tack on the...
So tone deaf to actually trade someone less than 24 hours after being appointed interim GM. Nothing new with that gas bag though.
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Aggressive? They waited for "value".
I hope you're right - that would be masterful.
Who else matters? We're the ones who have to watch this damn franchise. You make your comment as if everyone else has some sterling reputation...
You're omitting the fact that he was no longer a "hot prospect coming out of college" when the Dolphins actually got him. He is now a QB with 1...
It's easier to throw and process information "faster" in the Pac-12 because most of the defenses were either completely suspect or outright hot...
Oh Joy. Another QB to be divisive over. One thing's for sure, this team really knows how to suck the joy out of me. If the Dolphins were a...
Really chaps my hide that we never even got a chance at either Mayfield or Murray.
No doubt. His pocket instincts can't be coached.
Bro - the Dolphins don't have a quality O-line or consistent WR core. You think this story ends any better than it did for the Cardinals?
Except they are the Cards. Looks like they're sending a 2nd round draft pick for Rosen.
As a University of Arizona alumn - I watched plenty of Pac12 ball. Both he and Darnold were a couple of the most over-hyped, overrated QB's to...
God help this effin' franchise if they kick the tires on Josh Rosen.
I'm scared of the same thing. What a long two years too.
It's ridiculous for a lot of reasons. You can't march guys out there with the idea they're losing on purpose - that's how you get physically...
Best case - Kyler Murray slips to the Raiders, to whom the Dolphins send Xavien Howard, a 1st, and a 3rd to move up. Couldn't even tell you...
Treated? He was practically given carte blanche the day he was drafted when we ported over not only his head coach from college, but his playbook...
I compared Tannehill to Rube Baker in "Major League 2". Rosen is the quintessential over-opinionated gas bag.
It's actually the best spot for him given that Mariota has been the pillar of underachievement. So looks like it worked out for both parties.
Thank God it's finally over.
Teddy B is a chickensh*t.
It could be argued that he was every bit the pass rusher JT was as far as Dolphin lineage goes. Yet, I feel like he was neutralized too much in...
He was the perfect example of everything wrong with the Gase regime. They plucked him off the Patriots PS squad and mostly just used him to...
Just say no to Rosen. Both he and Darnold were annointed false gods of the Pac-12, but each never lived up to the hype. Both are turnover...
LOL ..... How fitting. Will the Tannebots still root him on in a Jets jersey?
Why? To not have to compete with other teams for the services of that player - that's why. There's always an opportunity for him to renegotiate...
Teams trading for Tanny would only be taking on that salary not the bonus. It speaks volumes that nobody wants him right now - especially if (as...
You're taking the "talent" conversation in a direction that was never intended. But by all means ....... The response I'm getting from you is...
Every time I hear him talk it's all I think about.
The Miami Dolphins ownership group has been nothing but patient and rewarding to Tannehill for his 7 years here. At the very least they deserve...
My bad ..... allow me to correct myself to make this easier - "A problem with". Better? And the whole reason behind my post was to point out...
Wait ...... como? That tweet btw, doesn't even contain the whole comment by O'Shea where it's clearly spelled out what's been lacking at the QB...
This is much about PR as it is about record and this was the same QB who was loudly boo'd out there with the offense numerous times. He serves no...
Things we already knew and 3 prior regimes tried to mold. It's not the talents he has, it's the ones he doesn't have. Let's not forgot over 30...
Watch - they'll sign LeVeon and not run the dude. They're prolly give carries to some ancient backup.
One thing I do know is that they would have had more control over their playoff destiny had he been the backup this year and the narrative around...
If you look back at the times Ryan was successful - he was almost always the benefactor of a strong run game. It never worked in reverse. With...
This x 1000%. Both are a problem, but it's too easy to scapegoat the O-line. Been the same fox hole people been living in for a long time now....
I'd be down for this 100% ...... as long as Minshew keeps the stache though. LOL
Never realized Murray shares the same agent as our newly minted head coach.
Of course your argument conveniently leaves out his natural feel for the pocket and inability to process the game the same way Brady does. The...
Lawrence is irrelevant. He wouldn't be coming out until 2021.
And we have a bunch of Stans who's hate knows no bounds. I imagine they average at least 5 hate tweets a day at the man, even after he retires....
Brady's football IQ in tandem with a functioning O-line explains that. Tannehill is nowhere near his level from a conceptual standpoint, not to...
Exactly. I went back and edited my comment a few minutes ago and said the same thing - both about playing behind big O-lineman, as well as vs....
Btw funny story to share. I was in the crossfire of a debate with Mike Jurecki - who's one of the radio mouth pieces of the Arizona Cardinals....
I can't even wrap my head around how bad that comparison is.
The height thing is a complete non-factor to me. If this were 1988 then I could understand it. The kid showed up in games featuring NFL-caliber...
He won't get it. Great job cbrad! You always manage to apply real meaning to stats - especially when adjusting for era.
Not at all. It was to illustrate how empty the phrase "Tannehill is the best QB we've had since Marino." It literally means nothing.
Please name me the renowned QB's he edged out while benefiting from playing under the same coach and offense he ran in college. Nobody is going...
I know one thing and that's Jay Fiedler quarterbacked one of my favorite Dolphins comebacks/wins of all time up in Denver on snowy 10/13/2002. He...
I roll my eyes whenever I hear that phrase, like it means anything. He's the best QB since Marino because of decades of incompetence in the draft...
All of them at one point or another were enamored with his physical skill set, but failed to realize soon enough what a mental midget he is when...
Could you at least not be so indirect? LOL
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Strahan and Osi were DE's. Donald and Suh are DT's. It's an entirely different kind of pass rush as they disrupt O-lines straight up the...
You're talking about 8 out of every 10 QB's. It's not earth shattering news and shouldn't deter a team if they have the right offensive coaches....
God I wanted May on the Dolphins. Ugggggghhhhhhh
Sorry, but Foles has proven himself on the NFL's biggest, brightest stage. He gets more benefit of the doubt that Tannehill does. It's not even...
I'm guessing that's why he always hid behind his hat. I think he genuinely has a mental health issue and while we probably shouldn't pile on -...
We don't know how 2019-2020 will shape up for our O-line.
This conversation is moot. John DeFilipo got hired as the OC for the Jags. It's sending a very clear signal that the Jags will likely make an...
That is easily one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen on social media. :chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:
It's because of his hubris and force feeding his offense. Then when injuries happen, instead of form fitting their strategy to the strengths o...
So then logically are you insinuating they'll always be good somewhere else? Thanks for the game Fin D! Haven't changed a bit!
The point was if I had a dollar for every time I heard the "We're gonna regret X leaving!!!!!" I'd be an insanely wealthy man. Did any of you...
Or we can continue with your fear campaign instead right?
He's got some kind of asperger's or autism going on.
Just like all the players who left the Dolphins to go to the Patriots were supposed to become all-pro's right? Stop it with this already. LOL
BB disciples haven't shown sh- in this league as head coaches and I wanted the choice to be Richard. One thing's for sure though, the Dolphins...
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Terrific leader? Bwhahahahahhahahahahaa
Comedy gold: http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/adam-gase-new-hc.91802/page-1
The 2016 Dolphins and Ryan Tannehill were benefactors of a soft-schedule that featured a dominant running attack led by Jay Ajayi. The teams they...
Three failed regimes. Two knee injuries. A bum shoulder. No accolades to cling to. Time to let go. Tannehill is now firmly established with...
By the way - in regards to Luck didn't it come out that he had been playing with that injury for a long time before he finally had the surgery?
No we don't. We could use the salary differential to fill other holes because the chasm between Tannehill and whoever we replace him with likely...
That's why I usually stay away from it all and the discussion over that period of time. Once you've seen/heard it once you've seen/heard it a...
Jet sweeps. While it did look a bit different than prior incarnations of the offense because they finally had speed - the whole league is...
Sounds like Fangio was in the same boat as Vance. If he was a name coming up on lists for head coach, then there was no way Ross was going to...
That's it right there. Nearly every time this team has gotten going in the Gase tenure, it was because of the run game and yet he'd stubbornly...
I work with a cokehead and it irritates me every day that none of my supervisors acknowledge it because the signs are blatant. In fact they gave...
Just goes to show you that he's not a big mastermind and the differential he's good for was minimal.
- They were 2-3 with Brock Assweiler and as the weeks wore on the more pathetic the offense became due to his glaring limitations so there was no...
Smartest guy how though? Where was that moment that left us all sitting there thinking he's playing 4D chess?
And just like that Lamar Jackson trying to tell us to F-off! LOL
Could see this performance coming a mile away. Postseason football is just an entirely different beast.
Yet Gase was ALSO the guy that hired Vance.
You keep leaving out the part where Ross asked Gase to relinquish control of the roster. Which of course Gase immediately refused. He's not the...
Do we even know the reason he turned down the offer from Gase? If we don't then this is pointless. For all anyone knows maybe Richard didn't...
Considering the mediocrity and the nonsense we've seen during the Gase tenure - how can anyone think Ross is out of line to come to that decision?...
Gase put that O-line together. So are we supposed to approach this in some sort of bi-polar fashion? Still doesn't explain such abysmal...
They had a chance to build on something, but again Gase refused to draft a QB or even attempt to make a good faith move for one. He...
If people are going to even try to hint that Ross has somehow taken on some kind of Jerry Jones approach, they're out of their minds.
When Ross expands on the whole "He wants to win now" element - he mentions with THIS roster and applying bandaids, which is what Ross doesn't want...
Apparently Fame is the only person on the planet who speaks "Rossanese" aka "Sour Grapes".
The point was we badly need a new player to talk about.
Speaking of inaccurate .......
I can't wait until there are no more Tannehill threads. Going to be a joyous day.
What you're doing is molding the narrative around your feelings and guess what - it's futile. He gone.
Gase was the best thing to happen to us? Good lord man, get it together. I think maybe you misread the reports - it was GASE who went cheap with...
No. We were put on this trajectory because of an ego-maniac who refused to show respect to his boss and was an OC posing as a head coach ..... by...
He's a remnant of 3 failed regimes. It's time to move on .... regardless of the outcome in 2019.
I just despised how he conducted himself, especially that smug look on his face and pithy responses any time anyone questioned his decisions....
He really is LOL.
It was incredibly messed up. I don't care if he loved Tanny or not, it's about preparation for the "just in case". What's the worse that could...
It was a different game back when Flutie played with mostly pro-set style offenses. With horizontal and RPO-based offenses you see proliferating...
You can thank Gase for that. Stubborn jackass failed to nab a QB in a QB-rich draft.
Gase coached this team like he was still a damn offensive coordinator and ironically the production was downright offensive.
Seriously baffles me that anyone could have anything negative to say about Wilson.
LOL @ your fandom. They serve grapes up there atop that throne of trash you sit on too?
You do realize he is only 21 right? He's not going to stay at 195 - especially in the pro's where he will have all the proper training at his...
Don't question my fanhood. Focus more on adjusting your judgement of coaches. The man unquestionably tanked into the end of the year. WOW man,...
Most definitely. Served them no good to save his job for him.
His improv and off-script game is outstanding. Some worry about his height, but with his frame and base I'm not even worried about it.
I became a believer in that bowl game. All aboard the train!
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Ummmm it's pretty clear an overwhelming amount of players hated the guy. It's got nothing to do with not wanting to work hard because Gase was...
You don't know that. Really - you don't. Remember when Adam Gase was the hot coaching ticket and supposed savior? Only inside circles know...
Both parties? LOL. Good riddance. His smug was only rivaled by Nick the Satan himself. There are better people in this world to root on than...
None. Look at how the man conducted himself in his three years ...... constantly fighting with media and his inability to actually coach players...
Sad tears.
Ross is clueless yet he hired Gase right? Seriously do you even read what you write anymore? Do us a favor and follow Gase wherever he ends up...
Exactly. He was despicable man. I dunno how anyone can defend him and his total lack of optics.
There is a God! **** that guy. Seriously. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that guy. Smug bastard. What a phony. And CLEARLY the roster was his call - as...
Starters by default is not exactly a reinforcing quality.
We already know how this story ends ...... The guy replacing Tannenbaum will eventually want his own guy - so this is just a big time waster...
Not to say that his style of play is long-term ...... but how pissed off must Ross be considering that he wanted Lamar Jackson in the draft and...
Funny you say that. BB will step away from the sidelines sometimes - but always to caoch up the defense, he's not sitting by himself drawing...
Jags: "We're the worst offense in football". Gase: "Hold my beer ......."
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I wonder what could've been had Wilson and Grant not gone in IR, but it's neither here nor there at this point. The time has come .....
Seriously ..... as the season wore on it has become so obvious that the QB this coach loves going to bat for is someone he can't go off-script with.
It's fine if an OC does it, but NOT the head coach. The job is proving to be too much for the so-called offensive savant.
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****ing Gase alone on the bench. The optics man ..... so bad.
When was the last time we saw this offense burn the blitz to back them the hell off? Never.
That last offensive play was a great example of why this offense sucks. The Jags are clearly blitzing, yet the play isn't changed to take...
This is getting to be a broken record already. It's the same conversation for almost 8 years now because first-and-foremost Tannehill...
Some of the struggles are well documented, but let's also remember they've forced 26 turnovers this year - which is tied for 5th best in the league.
I don't believe I've seen the jailbreak scenario that you describe as often as your comments lead to believe. Watch some of the upper echelon...
Exactly. You said it better than I did. He's too mechanical in his approach to overcome on-field adversity on a consistent basis.
Not really saying "blame Tanny". But on days the O-line struggles, so does Tannehill and it would seem that due to his limitations as a QB he's...
Disagree. Were there breakdowns in protection? Of course, they were facing one of the best D-Lines in football. But it's always matchups like...
I believe he had a season recently where he was 6th against it. Not sure that's the case over his entire career though.
IMO his obsession with his own offense is inevitably going to cost him his job because preparation and QC everywhere else is lacking. Ideally...
......... and this my fellow Dolphin fans is why Tannehill will never be the player we need him to. Nice kid and tough as nails, but pocket...
He's inevitably going to get hurt. This much is certain.
Never. He's a smug ego maniac.
Can't believe Bolden rotted away on our roster all year long. We've always known that with this iteration of the Dolphins, the run game has...
None of that **** matters until a Tannehill-led team can march into Foxboro or some other rough coldweather NFL city in December/January and make...
Felt good to be a Dolphins fan for once.
On that no backfield set - Tannehill needs to throw to a spot before the blitz gets near him. It's all timing. Crazy that Gase hasn't let Bolden...
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What a ****ty *** throw that was ..... got lucky with that one.
You're exaggerating a bit here. The throw was short and the DB mistimed his jump. Caroo then made an uber athletic play - one which he most...
It's because Caroo has been a bust to this point. I remember when the play happened I sat there thinking "Whoa, where'd that come from?"
Tannehill played a "managed" game. It was definitely better than anything Brock would've puked up there and the offense looked more functional....
I don't really see any teaching. It's one thing to have a scheme you trust and talent acquisition. It's another to develop the actual...
Gase is NONE of those things. He is 100000% committed to his own ideologies and can't be talked off them. He'd rather sit and poor me about the...
Simply untrue. Not one person (including myself) said anything about any other QB's getting away with balls like that sans criticism. It's just...
If he did then I can't blame him.
Again, you "trust" your guy to make a play when you're lobbing it into the endzone or on a fade. You're not "trusting" a guy to make a play when...
A 50/50 ball isn't when you have your man beat and you have to stop to come back to the ball because it was under-thrown.
Blame him? I wouldn't go that far. Tannehill is clearly a better QB than The Abrockalypse (it's not even close), but where was he in the 4th...
They beat them in Week 1 during a 7 hour marathon plagued by delays and major injuries to the Titans. As an aside - the most damning thing about...
Correction: He drafted the BPA.
32 years of age. Es no muy joven senior! Especially for someone who's been battling in the trenches for 10 years. In regards to those 8...
Btw, "injuries" have become a common theme with this regime over multiple seasons now. There's more to it then poor luck. There's foresight...
The most prolific offense in NFL History commandeered by arguably one of the game's greatest to ever play the QB position and basically an...
I never questioned his toughness. You sir are likely to have an agenda if you believe that.
I don't think he's fearful. He's never had any reason to be - especially with Gase being so unwavering about him. Of course that's also the...
The cultures each coach is creating couldn't be any more different. McVay is winning the Rams over with the reclamation project of a roster that...
They're only in the playoff hunt because there's a lot of crap teams right now ....... that's why it's a mirage. It's not really an endorsement...
Seriously LOL. The two teams couldn't be anymore opposite right now though. That Colts team is hittin' full stride on both sides of the ball....
Except they're about to get annihilated by the Colts.
He helped put this roster together man. It's hard to absolve him completely, not to mention the continued struggles of putting together a...
Personally, I'm so disenchanted right now that I don't care what happens.
And one incident doth not make a selfish player.
Playing thru a torn labrum is definitely selfish.
A win is a win ..... but some wins are also window dressing.
I bolded what matters most. With all due respect - you say it as if it's an acceptable outcome. The road to the division title goes thru New...
This is definitely dysfunction man. The problem is the aroma from this so-called "genius" still hasn't worn off yet with enough people,...
Last I checked you're part of the fan base.
You forgot to call the fact that it was the Jets. It's real easy to look slick when they're starting a rookie QB with a pension for turnovers and...
Ya that's great look when you haven't done or won anything as a head coach.
What has gotten into you?
The culture is Adam Gase ..... and it's not a good one. This guy is a stubborn coordinator moonlighting as a head coach. He's the kind of guy...
This situation just gets more depressing every week. Adam Gase might be the most stubborn/dismissive HC I've ever seen. It's just the same...
Seriously Brandon just about had an aneurysm over my comments regarding injuries. He somehow managed to confuse it and make the post about himself.
It's time you stop worrying about me and heed your own advice.
Stop whining.
..... as the downward spiral and losing continues many players don't approach the game the same way anymore. Lazy effort, poor technique/focus ,...
The injuries pile up when players start mentally checking out.
The Wide 9 defense is an attacking defense. It's kind of hard to attack when the offense has largely failed in the scoring department and...
What's amazing to me is after getting exposed YET AGAIN by the Pats, that anyone actually believed they were still in the thick of things. It's...
At this point I'm just pissed I benched DeShaun Watson on my fantasy team. On a Dolphins related front, it's crazy to me that there is any...
This year needs to end already.
They've made the playoffs, won division/conference titles, and have won a chip. That's how you earn benefit of a doubt.
Lazy and dishonest comparison.
You know what the biggest indictment is of Gase? We have not scored on the first possession in 17 straight games.
We just need to make sure he isn't being leveraged at LT again. He was perfectly fine last year filling in for James at RT.
That has been the case since the day Tanny arrived ....... he has always relied on his arm to bail out the lack of anticipation in his throws....
Well it seemed to work on Sunday.
This homer pick of the week was brought to you by ...... LOL Brock only looks good in spots when you're not looking at all.
Tannehill strikes me as a guy more suited out of the playaction then any of the concepts being ported over from today's college game. That...
With the way it's currently constructed, the NFL is a passer's paradise and yet Tannehill is only mustering 194.4 yards/g which places him the...
What a horse crap flag.
Buffalo.
No it's called "reality" bub. That's what happens when facing your former team.
I get the feeling that Bill Lazor is going to unload the playbook on the Dolphins.
Ryan looks great when it's a clean pocket and he has a running game to take the pressure off. It's when the bullets fly, protections break down,...
This is why you can't read box scores. They literally had nobody at the WR core until Edelman came back tonight. They also had to break in...
So on one hand you tell me nobody knows his mindset - then on the other hand you tell me what his mindset is. Got it.
Maybe I missed it - but what are these demonstrably "cut worthy" offenses tallied up by Phillips over the years?
This post I read on another site sums up what I think you're saying: "I'm reminded of an old adage...something along the lines of, "when you...
This is starting to get comical.
Not even interested in the slightest getting involved with this whiny cheating talk. You've got plenty of other people to engage for the 500th...
I hope some of you guys realize that there are high powered offenses in this league that literally run the same 6-10 players throughout a game and...
The varying regimes haven't mattered. The end result has been the same. They're now 2-16 up in Foxboro against the Patriots since 2001 and the...
Some of you act like it's your first season ever watching this franchise.
This his how it starts. The injuries mount and then the team mentally quits.
It's an addiction for some.
The crazy part is thinking we could march into Foxboro with significant injuries on defense, no run game, and come out with a win in a place where...
Wish I could say I'm surprised by the outcome, but I'm not. I was hoping for simply a competitive game - but I knew the Pats were not about to...
Anyone have a game link? I have SlingTV, which doesn't have CBS and apparently it's a blacked out game on Sunday Ticket.
Been down this road too many times. No excitement right now. Just want to see them take care of business for once.
The Dolphins are 2-15 in Foxboro since 2001? Ya, it's harder to win there alright ..... for the Dolphins. How can you even argue it's not?
I think some of you are forgetting it was also a 7 hour game, which played a huge factor in the result - especially in lieu of the Titan injuries.
Anyone who actually watched Wilson playing in KC could see it. Alas most people look at stats-only or go off of whether or not they've ever...
Prepare yourselves for the Michel/White screen pass all game.
Of course they're going to be a different team towards the end of the year when they've broken in Gordon/Michel and Edelman is back in game-shape....
I'm so glad I no longer care about that kind of stuff. I used to be really bad about it back in the day.
And they had many games Brady completely took over.
They have a superstar QB.
Jarvis who?
The flaws are the flaws though. Good teams expose them. While I love the start - I'll reserve judgement until this weekend up in Foxboro.
Wilson is being given his chance to shine and he's taking it! He is so much more of a dynamic player than Landry ever was.
The greatest part about Sunday's win was the team's ability to overcome adversity having lost two main D-lineman in the game and were already...
And that track there is painted black too. Uhhhh wtf?
That was a dime of a throw!
Did Gase really just call a run on 1st and 20?
First QB in NFL history to march his team back from 14 pts in his pro debut! Let's also consider the fact that it was a short week and he got...
I used to be like that that is until witnessing inflated win totals end in them being dismantled by playoff teams or December swoons.
If we're in playoff contention and beat NE late in the season - now that would mean something. They don't even have Edelman back yet and they're...
There's no comparison. Gordon is on another planet talent-wise.
Fandom or fanaticism?
My fantasy team right now ..... [IMG]
Perhaps that's why we shouldn't have been sniffing around a 32 year old with his injury history.
IMO he'll always be turnover prone - but that ball comes out freakin' hot!
A seven hour home game with two long delay, rains, sloppy conditions, and a team that had three of their best players on the offensive side of the...
He deserves it for this moment alone. :chuckle: [img]
Yup, bye bye Jimmy Johnson uniform legacy. I dig the changes a lot. Definitely accomplished bridging the gap between the classics which I love...
Lord what an overpay. So glad he and that contract are not the Dolphins problem.
I take it you were there with him blowing lines?
Shady McCoy was raving about him. Called him his favorite white boy ever.
Those camp reports were complete and utter horse sh-. They were given by mouth pieces of the Dolphins organization and by people who didn't even...
If what coaches saw on the tape in and practice was that Moore didn't "fit" - then keeping him these last few years was 100% incompetence. Again,...
Gase panicked pure and simple. He also didn't want the possibility of his offense's development taking a seat for a year. That very fact also...
So let me get this straight ..... A guy who was ready for TV sportscasting, coming off a major labrum surgery who's very own wife had to convince...
Translation: It was a complete waste of time and squandered potential rollover cap space to bring in Cutler. Either way development of the...
#SHOCKER, but I still maintain he royally f-d up forcing Cutler on the team when Moore earned the right to at least be given a chance. It's...
Those guys were NEVER going to step up in that capacity. We would have seen it already.
I found the below quote interesting. Reinforces exactly what I thought was going on i.e. forcing the ball to Landry....
No chance.
Hard pass.
Contract details: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/albert-wilson-14949/ Essentially a two year contract with $14.5 million guaranteed -...
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/danny-amendola-5905/ There's your contract details. He's a one year rental for $6 million. Still...
Exactly. It's about setting the franchise up for a potential win-win instead of sinking into a QB abyss if we don't draft a guy this year and...
Please please please please please!!!!!!!
Bum.
Personally, don't really think we'll be seeing the same mobility. Now his lack of "lateral/peripheral" agility is going to come into play.
But wait - I thought personnel moves were done after we signed Wilson/Amendola? I kid I kid.
His salary is competitive with the market out there: https://overthecap.com/position/kicker/
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Remember to read the contract details. Only $9 million is guaranteed. The team isn't on the hook for a major signing bonus and the highest...
Bingo. It's not like the Mountain West Conference was littered with NFL ready defensive players during his time with Wyoming. Imagine the gap...
Can't wait to see the contract breakdowns for Amendola/Wilson. I'm assuming some of the panic will lessen.
Moore's not wanting to come back. Gase treated him like a punk the entire time he was here culminating with a big *** Cutler slap across the...
OK cool .... so basically the $26 million I thought. EDIT: Wait no, I don't think it factors the June 1st thing. Those are his savings before....
Does it make the distinction that the Suh money isn't available until after June 1st though?
They weren't gonna save that much: "Cutting Tannehill in 2019 would save the Dolphins around $15.4 million instead of the $18.7 million...
Are these numbers correct? Started out $19 million over the cap. Tanny Restructure = $11.2 savings savings Landry Trade = $15.9 million savings...
Curious to see if we'll sniff around Eric Ebron.
At what price? Remember this kid had two ACL tears in the NFL (one on each knee).
Exactly. They knew we needed the cap space and his skills alone don't warrant an #11/#4 swap.
Yup. Bless that man.
Wilson's contract won't force the team to salary dump at a later date. That's what a $16 million wideout would do though.
Recall the Defcon 5 some elevated to when Ajayi was traded. Kenyon Drake quickly shut that up.
I'm no Gase defender - but he's been harping on that most of the previous two years and always seemed to implicate the same guys i.e....
Ya no, this has nothing to do with that. The Chief's picked up Watkins to take the coverage away from Tyreke Hill running routes on the boundary...
Your list of Wilson penalties compared to Landry's is laughable - not even remotely on the same planet when in regards to IQ and keeping...
In fact just looking over Landry's career penalties with this team. These aren't the traits of a high IQ football player, they're typical of an...
He had just about as many knucklehead moments as he did big plays for this team. Please remember - he chose MONEY over this franchise.
Fault is the wrong word - it's his limitation as a receiver. That's why we're not paying him $16 million for his services.
That play is Jarvis Landry in a nutshell.
The hell do we care about a WR group from 2014 when he was a rookie? There's really no much football talk going on - it's just seething sarcasm.
Wait ...... you're asking these guys to wait on final contract numbers? Good luck with that one - they're on suicide watch already.
Little do you recognize you're reinforcing my point.
I can't see them NOT making a move for a legit pass catching TE. None of this will work without it ...... well unless they plan on getting more...
Who else were they gonna throw the ball to? Julius Thomas? Parker? Caroo? Some of you overlook the obvious here. Landry was being force fed...
They plan on spreading the ball around instead of force-feeding it to Landry for an entire year. Wilson has the potential to be a cheaper Landry...
Check right below my avatar - most definitely NOT a fan consumed with blind faith. I do happen to like this Wilson move a lot though.
WR's averaging $4 million per year (albeit Watkins just got a big pay day as will Thielen eventually). [IMG]
We're just gettin' started.
Honestly man - I don't think you watched Wilson. He's going to surprise you. Did you see some of the numbers Travis posted on him? Sample size...
Your numbers are wrong. Amendola is only guaranteed 8.25 million.
Didn't seem to bother him in the Super Bowl on the world's biggest stage.
If anyone begins to b*tch about his salary on Miami compared to NE - they clearly don't understand that players take cuts to play for the...
Every time I watched that team he caught my eye. Glad to have him.
Well that sucks.
You're not seriously comparing Suh to Dan Marino are you? Marino could freelance because he WAS the offense. Suh is just a guy and one who...
The kid has amazing footwork, which is why I'm so high on him (along with his passion for the game) and what separates upper echelon QB's from the...
I'm assuming that for a QB to be successful in Buffalo (especially come Nov/Dec) they would need a guy with serious arm talent throwing into that...
This move right now has absolutely nothing to do with idiocy - the word is "REALITY". Suh was owed $28 million this year, $26 million next year,...
Trying to stack a defense with the right pieces when one single defensive tackle is sucking up the salaries of multiple players is tough business....
Howso? Suh has been a Dolphin for 3 years and his overall impact has been questionable to say the least ....... at least in terms of value you're...
Is it "falling asleep" or was there genuine trepidation?
He's not a gamebreaker and you don't pay a guy $16 million per if he isn't. I do want to say that he was a damn good blocker for a WR - which...
Yup, the playcalling and Jay Stinkler fixating on Jarvis the whole year.
Thank God. Been hoping for this for a while.
And to think we ACTUALLY offered him $13 million for that. He priced himself off the Dolphins.
Look no further than the signing of Jay Cutler. We all know who spearheaded that stank bullsh*t. Also didn't help that Parker never...
While I don't mind Landry leaving ...... Why in the hell did we tag him if we could'e let him walk on his own and gotten a compensatory 3rd...
Not if this team ACTUALLY acquires a Tight End worth a damn.
Makes you wonder more about QB being the pick. This screams out loud that they don't want a diva like Landry corrupting their development and...
Bye bye Diva!
Arguably one of the worst contracts this franchise has ever given to a player at a position that can be neutralized out by opposing blocking...
Back up off the ledge bruh.
There's a fine line between maxing out your potential income and being delusional.
If I'm the Giants, I'm trading him immediately. There is nothing that man can do that is worth $20 million per. It also shows you where his...
Don't forget the overreacting media coverage. What an embarrassment that whole situation was.
What a great plan - willingly hanging onto an aging player with a deteriorating hip.
There's no doubt he improved, but it didn't happen in a vacuum. He was also the benefactor of a very soft portion of the schedule and Jay Ajayi....
Makes you wonder if this franchise actually has the balls to break out of their comfort zone, draft Mayfield, and potentially trade Tannehill....
I appreciate the work. Takes time to put that kind of thing together. I just don't appreciate the tone he takes when anyone questions his work...
There's a small part of me that appreciates their optimism. The main problem is that we're no longer talking about a 24 or a 25 year old. We're...
Good question. No way to know really. Albeit his "chance" for overall success would have been higher due to the foundation in place over...
As an aside and random musing - I love standard deviations. They are a core part of my approach to markets in my trading. Changed my whole...
He's been inconsistent everywhere he's QB'd. After a while, you are what you are.
Runs like runningback? Are you kiddng me? Tannehill is a long strider. You don't have to be a runningback to make a quick move in the pocket,...
You do realize Adam Gase was hired in January 2016 right? Perhaps you forget to make a GIF of it.
Speaking of excuse-making...... Enoughs enough with Gase and that massive ego of his. The whole "I didn't want the offense to revert, so I...
It's beyond bias at this point. It's one of the most QB-rich drafts ever and we got people clamoring about 8 games of an entire career rather...
I believe he meant that you shouldn't bring a black light around his pantaloons. LOL
Yeeeeeeah! Bring on the next backup QB for you to crucify!
He's got nothing left. It's time for him to move on to the next phase in life.
I said it was a slap in the face when Cutler was brought in knucklehead.
You're undermining the respect of the locker room that the man had. Enough to at have been named a team MVP at one point (2011). This wasn't...
The Cutler signing was a slap in the face for Moore. It was also an extension of Gase's lack of respect towards the guy to be so desperate as to...
I've watched the entire playoffs and not about to stop at the Super Bowl. I like football in general. So while my Dolphins team is trash - I can...
#PLEASE
Tackling #'s encompass "pure stats"? Watch a game for once. He's not a player smart enough to make up for his lack of size at the position. He...
If Parker had developed the way the team envisioned - they wouldn't even be having these discussions. Tells you everything you need to know...
One of my biggest gripes about the guy since he's been Dolphin was his inability to score. Even with the 9 TD's I'm still not sold, I mean let's...
Not a fan of Josh Allen after what I watched this year. Don't see it at all - he's definitely over-hyped.
This thread. LOL
He looked good once he hit stride. The question is would NFL teams have adjusted to him in year 2?
They should strongly consider taking one. Tannehill's now on the other side of 30. IMO he'll need at least a year to get timing/rhythm back....
LOL ...... self-ban? Honestly, in my eyes the season's been over for a while and I haven't felt compelled to participate in the endless circular...
Have Dirty Landry and all of these other analysts ever been seen in the same room before? [IMG]
Thing is we didn't even buy low. We drafted Parker pretty high. Sometimes people need to learn when to move on from a depreciating asset instead...
You say that as if there's an inevitable "high" coming. Sometimes it's just not there between the ears. Ya you bought low, but then cutting bait...
It's because he has great feet.
That Bronco offense is TERRIBLE. Hard to imagine this game playing out the same without their defense being so gassed. Positives continue to...
Moore drew two insurmountable games for his starts this year against the Ravens and Pats and he doesn't have the liberty of developing chemistry...
EDIT: Nevermind. Not the same.
That's kind of the underlying problem though - if he's hoping on talent covering up for a possible lack of coaching.
Outright terrible pocket management by Moore today. I can't wait for a fresh new QB room already.
That's why he and Cutler get along. Their dismissiveness is very similar. I can practically see the "Doooooooooon't care" audibly replaying...
No offense but your comment is ridiculous. You said "Whoever put this O-line together" and you're talking about today's game. They're playing...
I'm not disagreeing with the personnel decisions, but again we're talking about backups.
While some tout Gase as this bright NFL mind - to me he hasn't shown that he knows how to coach these players up. His personality doesn't seem...
I think you're asking for a little too much. No team fields all-pros across the entire line and then backups who step in and don't miss a bit.
Dude, Sam Young and Jesse Davis are lined up on the right side. Those weren't the projected starters for 2017.
I know I didn't buy into the hype. It had fools gold written all over it based on them having a poor record vs. winning teams. At this point...
Jesus Drake. This is an embarrassment.
